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Mosbonian 09-04-2011 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7879588)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/05/sp...n-outlook.html



Also, along the non sports line of why the B1G probably won't expand is the issue of the CIC, Committee For Institutional Cooperation, comprised of B1G schools and the University of Chicago. They receive about 12% of the total Federal research funds awarded annually (18% of the National Science Foundation; and 15.7% of the USDA). That comes to approximately 6 BILLION dollars annually. If they expand, they have to split the pie more.

Sometimes, you just don't expand just to expand.

So you see, its not just "my dream world" we're talking about here. Now, the SEC might want you, but maybe they want Virginia Tech or UNC. Who knows? But, if you think everyone is going to start expanding just because the PAC does you might be in for a surprise.

If that invite indeed doesn't come, are you coming to the Big East with us?


HH....if you think that expansion isn't going to happen, then all of the information in the world anyone could put together wouldn't satisfy you. I see a lot of political rhetoric from people who want to say the right things right now, but if one domino falls then you can be damn sure the other conferences are going to be wallflowers either.

It's about money...and if you think for one second more revenue and a bigger piece of the bowl money won't drive even the academics to have second thoughts , please feel free.

ArrowheadMagic 09-04-2011 11:04 PM

See ya later pillowbitergots. nlm

tk13 09-04-2011 11:04 PM

I agree the Big East makes the most sense for KU given the circumstances. I certainly understand why Mizzou would consider the SEC. It'd be brutal for football but schools like Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and even the Mississippi schools aren't that far from Missouri. There are parts of Missouri that are probably the same distance to Ole Miss as Columbia. It wouldn't be a complete stretch geographically. Either way you're going to have long trips whether it's Florida or UConn.

I can't imagine the Big East would be interested in everyone: KU, KSU, Mizzou, Iowa St. and Baylor, would they? That would be a gigantic conference come basketball season. Might as well go for Houston or Memphis and cover half the country.

ArrowheadMagic 09-04-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7879626)
I agree the Big East makes the most sense for KU given the circumstances. I certainly understand why Mizzou would consider the SEC. It'd be brutal for football but schools like Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and even the Mississippi schools aren't that far from Missouri. There are parts of Missouri that are probably the same distance to Ole Miss as Columbia. It wouldn't be a complete stretch geographically.

I can't imagine the Big East would be interested in everyone: KU, KSU, Mizzou, Iowa St. and Baylor, would they? That would be a gigantic conference come basketball season. Might as well go for Houston or Memphis and cover half the country.

Big East BBall brings in some money... March Madness is still a money maker.

BWillie 09-05-2011 01:05 AM

Ok ok ok. I've figured this all out. I really want to actually start calling Big East AD's and Big East front office execs introducing myself as Dan Bebee and Sheahon Zenger.

There are too many basketball only schools in the Big East to make due in the long run, they should know that. Just boot the dead weight, keep some of the basketball only schools that have prestige. Call it the Big Middle Eastern Conference if all I care, I don't give a shit. It'll go something like this.

FOOTBALL
WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati

If the 8 team craphole of the Big East gets an AQ/BCS invite as is, how the hell wouldn't they with that set up?

As far as basketball,

WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State
Marquette/G-Town/Villanova (pick 1)

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati
Notre Dame

Good bye to the rest...most definitely Depaul, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Providence. It is f****** stupid that those teams are in this conference to begin with. Nothing wrong with that conference at all, probably would be better than the ACC @ football almost every year.

Look at those markets right there. You get Texas, basically all of the midwest and some of the south, NY, FLA, ND nationally. I mean that should be a no brainer to ALL of those schools. Iowa State comes over because they already have an existing football program, the transition of starting one up at G-Town or Marquette etc would be to cumbersome. Villanova moves up to D1 football or you tell them to GTFO. That'll leave one spot open, hopefully for ND for football which I realize is a longshot. Tell them they can have their own network ala Texas, and that is as good as any conference in America.

HolyHandgernade 09-05-2011 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7879612)
HH....if you think that expansion isn't going to happen, then all of the information in the world anyone could put together wouldn't satisfy you. I see a lot of political rhetoric from people who want to say the right things right now, but if one domino falls then you can be damn sure the other conferences are going to be wallflowers either.

It's about money...and if you think for one second more revenue and a bigger piece of the bowl money won't drive even the academics to have second thoughts , please feel free.

Oh, I do believe there will be some realignments taking place, I'm just not so sure it will trigger the avalanche you think is a certainty.

Bambi 09-05-2011 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7878548)
Supposing that's true, what does Kansas bring to the table? The entire population of the state of Kansas is almost identical to the Saint Louis metro area. I don't see the PAC deciding to grab a school two time zones east when the school has no football team, and the state has no television sets.

Bwahahahahaha!

I love these kind of posts.

3 hall of famers and a BCS win.

Sure it's not a football school but to claim something like "has no football team" just shows tells us so much.

Good luck in your future my man.

Titty Meat 09-05-2011 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7879712)
Bwahahahahaha!

I love these kind of posts.

3 hall of famers and a BCS win.

Sure it's not a football school but to claim something like "has no football team" just shows tells us so much.

Good luck in your future my man.

LMAO

Infidel Goat 09-05-2011 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7879700)
Ok ok ok. I've figured this all out. I really want to actually start calling Big East AD's and Big East front office execs introducing myself as Dan Bebee and Sheahon Zenger.

There are too many basketball only schools in the Big East to make due in the long run, they should know that. Just boot the dead weight, keep some of the basketball only schools that have prestige. Call it the Big Middle Eastern Conference if all I care, I don't give a shit. It'll go something like this.

FOOTBALL
WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati

If the 8 team craphole of the Big East gets an AQ/BCS invite as is, how the hell wouldn't they with that set up?

As far as basketball,

WEST
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
TCU
Missouri
Louisville
Iowa State
Marquette/G-Town/Villanova (pick 1)

EAST
UCONN
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
South Florida
Syracuse
W. Virginia
Cincinnati
Notre Dame

Good bye to the rest...most definitely Depaul, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Providence. It is f****** stupid that those teams are in this conference to begin with. Nothing wrong with that conference at all, probably would be better than the ACC @ football almost every year.

Look at those markets right there. You get Texas, basically all of the midwest and some of the south, NY, FLA, ND nationally. I mean that should be a no brainer to ALL of those schools. Iowa State comes over because they already have an existing football program, the transition of starting one up at G-Town or Marquette etc would be to cumbersome. Villanova moves up to D1 football or you tell them to GTFO. That'll leave one spot open, hopefully for ND for football which I realize is a longshot. Tell them they can have their own network ala Texas, and that is as good as any conference in America.

Yeah, but how does it look after the Big 10 and the ACC are finished raiding it?!

kcfan82 09-05-2011 08:55 AM

You'd think landing the KC market would be of interest to alot of places. Who cares how many TV's you pick up if noone is watching your channel.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...in-forces.html

The best case for that solid place to include KU largely centers around you, because Kansas City’s outrageous passion for college sports could become a factor in a potential conference shakeup.

According to Navigate’s research, Kansas City ranks 12th of 77 markets in concentration of college football fans (46 percent) and seventh in college basketball (44 percent).

None of the places with more football passion are bigger markets than Kansas City, and only Raleigh-Durham is bigger among the markets with more basketball fans. We have a higher concentration of college football fans than Atlanta, and more college basketball passion than Charlotte.

In St. Louis, fewer than 30 percent define themselves as a fan of either college football or basketball. In the Pac-12’s major markets, it’s 27 percent for football and 18 percent for basketball. In the Big Ten, it’s 35 percent for football and 26 percent for basketball.

Perhaps most eye-opening is that in the SEC, long held up as the gold standard for football passion, only 41 percent define themselves as fans.

In that way, a Kansas-Missouri alliance could sell itself on being able to deliver one of the country’s best college sports markets, with the bonus of a heated and historic rivalry along with Mizzou’s presence in St. Louis.


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...#ixzz1X5fwMEYV

teedubya 09-05-2011 08:59 AM

**** TEXAS.

Sassy Squatch 09-05-2011 09:03 AM

Would be nice if KU K-State, and Mizzou could go into one conference together.

Coogs 09-05-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfan82 (Post 7879849)
You'd think landing the KC market would be of interest to alot of places. Who cares how many TV's you pick up if noone is watching your channel.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...in-forces.html

The best case for that solid place to include KU largely centers around you, because Kansas City’s outrageous passion for college sports could become a factor in a potential conference shakeup.

According to Navigate’s research, Kansas City ranks 12th of 77 markets in concentration of college football fans (46 percent) and seventh in college basketball (44 percent).

None of the places with more football passion are bigger markets than Kansas City, and only Raleigh-Durham is bigger among the markets with more basketball fans. We have a higher concentration of college football fans than Atlanta, and more college basketball passion than Charlotte.

In St. Louis, fewer than 30 percent define themselves as a fan of either college football or basketball. In the Pac-12’s major markets, it’s 27 percent for football and 18 percent for basketball. In the Big Ten, it’s 35 percent for football and 26 percent for basketball.

Perhaps most eye-opening is that in the SEC, long held up as the gold standard for football passion, only 41 percent define themselves as fans.

In that way, a Kansas-Missouri alliance could sell itself on being able to deliver one of the country’s best college sports markets, with the bonus of a heated and historic rivalry along with Mizzou’s presence in St. Louis.


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/29...#ixzz1X5fwMEYV

Which is why these schools should start being proactive to the BIG 10. Instead of waithing to see what OU does... beat them to the friggin' punch.

Coogs 09-05-2011 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 7879859)
Would be nice if KU K-State, and Mizzou could go into one conference together.

Yes!!! And the Big 10 makes perfect geographical sense... not the fuggin' Big East or Pac 10.

Rams Fan 09-05-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson (Post 7879712)
Bwahahahahaha!

I love these kind of posts.

3 hall of famers and a BCS win.

Sure it's not a football school but to claim something like "has no football team" just shows tells us so much.

Good luck in your future my man.

He's back...


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