Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7878670)

I highlighted the only pertinent point of the discussion. "IF". IF all that happens, then yes, Missouri is in a good place. All I'm saying is that there has been no concrete message from either conference they want to expand. You assume the networks will say the St. Louis market is worth it. Fans throw around terms like "X metropolis" market like its some big bloc that will all automatically go where MU football goes.

When TV execs look at the numbers, they actually dissect it a bit more than that. They'll look at what percentage of St. Louis fans actually watch college football, what percentage of fans actually watch MU football (don't act like there's no Illini fans there). What percentage of fans watch SEC football anyway.

IF superconferences are the wave of the future, then yes, your situation is much brighter. But IF said conferences don't think it is advantageous to expand right now, they aren't going to expand just to expand.

And this, by the way, goes right into another of these myths about superconferences: "The good thing is that when we have four superconferences we're finally going to have a playoff system."

Yeah, right. The BCS, the organization that wants to preserve the bowls, is going to gather their teams together so they can get rid of the bowls. That's fan logic for you at its finest!

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7878695)

I guess by reading all of the post you missed the point I was trying to make. The Big 10 is confident...almost cocky about it, that they can have MU anytime they wish.

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7878676)

I'm sure that there are. You guys are so blind sometimes you completely miss the point. Don't tell me "Mizzou can deliver the St. Louis market". That's obvious. Instead tell me what that actual TV share is. If its a significant number, then maybe Mizzou is a 17 million/year institution. Do you know what that actual number is and how much revenue that actually translates to for marketers?

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7878699)

Super Conferences are going to happen...no real if to it. My mistake in the post was putting it that way.

If you believe they aren't , please feel free to sit in your dream world.

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7878702)

You're the one putting the value needed at $17 million....any particular reason you put it at that?

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7878695)

I guess by reading all of the post you missed the point I was trying to make. The Big 10 is confident...almost cocky about it, that they can have MU anytime they wish.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7878703)

Wouldn't it be funny if Texas found it's way into the SEC? I'm not saying that there's any chance that it will happen, I just think it would be funny if Texas A&M tried to flee from Texas' shadow only to find themselves right back in it.

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7878707)

I'm sure they can. What puzzles me is the Big 10 took Nebraska and not MU. I thought it was all about TV sets.

I don't think these realignments are about TV sets at all.. except for the huge TV markets. It's about brand.

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade (Post 7878686)

I don't either. But that's the point. When fans say "such and such market", they speak in hype, not real numbers. I agree that the MU portion in Missouri markets represents the largest potential market share that may be a "free agent". But, if that real projected revenue is not more than what each school in a particular conference currently takes in, these conferences will not expand just to expand.

The PAC is going aggressively forward because they can answer that question with a bold affirmation. In fact, they think so much of the Texas-OU market, they don't really care what two schools they add on to them.

Missouri has to show they are worth their take. If they can, Missouri may indeed have choices. If they can't, they may be the most valuable "stray" on the market.

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7878694)

This is my point. Who cares about TVs in St. Louis? The point is, what does MU bring to the national TV audience? That's the question.

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7878713)

The problem is that you're believing that once Texas and OU disappear then nothing else will happen. Once Texas and OU make their moves, then the SEC and Big 10 will get antsy (and greedy).

My argument is that once OU and Texas go, then MU becomes the next most attractive pick along with OSU. If you don't think that the SEC and Big 10 won't start negotiations with those 2 schools with the possibility of the PAC 10 accepting OU/OSU and Texas/TT, then you're hiding in the sand.

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 7878707)

I'm sure they can. What puzzles me is the Big 10 took Nebraska and not MU. I thought it was all about TV sets.

I don't think these realignments are about TV sets at all.. except for the huge TV markets. It's about brand.

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7878713)

The problem is that you're believing that once Texas and OU disappear then nothing else will happen. Once Texas and OU make their moves, then the SEC and Big 10 will get antsy (and greedy).

My argument is that once OU and Texas go, then MU becomes the next most attractive pick along with OSU. If you don't think that the SEC and Big 10 won't start negotiations with those 2 schools with the possibility of the PAC 10 accepting OU/OSU and Texas/TT, then you're hiding in the sand.