Jfc you're stupid

2 extra years (according to you) to win a title yet nothing.

Pushing Kyler Murray down boost the confidence, I guess

That's including the Dallas years. Not that his point makes any difference.

You used aging software to pretend to be some old fart and follow a team that will never win a title. What do you know of winning?

No one looks at it like that. The team's history goes back to 1960. No one says the Raiders history starts in LV, or the Cardinals history starts in Arizona, or any of the other franchises that have moved, with the exception of the ravens, who left their history in Cleveland. It a stupid argument imo.

LOL

You say we're always predicting an injury for Allen (and btw it's always "all these hits are going to add up, they use him too much as a running weapon in games that are less important, look at Cam Newton), WHILE HE LITERALLY IS GETTING READY FOR A THURSDAY NIGHT GAME WITH A DINGED-UP HAND BECAUSE HE RAN THE BALL UNNECESSARILY.

LMAO No shit. The dude is a mentally deranged schizophrenic. Curious to see how long he lasts this time around.

LMAO

Chatted about it in the Mod Lounge and same idea as before....spam this thread and others can always put the thread on ignore, but this time we'll probably be even faster with the ban hammer if the bullshit spreads to other threads.

(this has been the general rule for his past few mults and it never ends well... I give it 3 weeks)

"They" are the fan bases of teams that convince themselves their teams are as good or better than the teams that actually do win championships as they sit around and commiserate their existences, knowing full well the whole that they really aren't.

"He got to the three yard line in his first NFL game, you retart looser!"

*realizes Xavier Worthy scored twice in his NFL debut*

"oh"

Gadget plays don’t count.

I was screaming at the TV "Take the points off the board! They were gadget plays!"

Most overrated player doesn't count either bros

ROFL

If you have the ability to, please get word to the Bills' front office that we appreciate their generosity in letting us grab Worthy, please. We all look forward to what this kid can do in this offense going forward!

And McDuffie

And Mahomes

LMAO The **** they don't. Scoreboard.

We're going to kill that defense this year.

Can you imagine facing KC's WRs down a CB.

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I’ll give you McDuffie. Because Elam is a complete and total bust.

But y’all aren’t ready for the Mahomes conversation yet. The rose colored glasses are tinted too strongly.

Mahomes has had 2x as many serious injuries than Allen has.

The bump on his hand stuff is just nonsense.

Yeah, thankfully you got Allen. Worked out well for you.

He also has 3x as many rings, with a real chance at a 4th this year.

How you doin buddy?

Have you enjoyed the last 2 Superbowls?

KC fans already got 3 Super Bowl rings and 4 conference titles out of Mahomes. You’re still waiting to get those with Josh Allen. When these guys are in their 30’s, the injury stuff will catch up to them. Russell Wilson and Big Ben are good examples of that recently. Father Time is a mean bastard.

Buffalo beat up on a depleted Cards defense which has no defensive line to speak off and a midget for a QB. Great achievement.

You say some dumb shit like that again and i'll make sure you're so banned that even your mom won't let you through the door.

Don't **** wit me, dicklicks.

What is the actual argument that Allen is better than Mahomes? I've seen that pop up on the twitter streets

wrong


that would imply that Allen has won anything


and he hasn't

Mahomes has had zero serious injuries, so your math is way the **** off.

Yes, as you noticed, there are not-insignificant number of people who feel this way.

Personally, I would not use the word “better” - I would use equal.

If Allen was drafted by KC, he has all the rings that Mahomes has. Thats not to say that Mahomes isn’t great - he is. But he was drafted into the BEST possible situation imaginable:

Mahomes was drafted to a team with:

1) A hall-of-fame offensive coach
2) A team with a hall-of-fame pass catching tight end
3) A team with a hall-of-fame wide receiver talent
4) A team that had made 5 of the last 6 playoffs
5) A team that had PLAYOFF wins with Alex freaking Smith

He was drafted to a DREAM scenario.

Allen on the other hand was drafted to a team with:

1) A rookie defensive head coach
2) A team with zero hall-of-famers
3) A team whose best receiver was Kelvin Benjamin
4) A team who missed 18 of the previous 19 playoffs

Allen was drafted into one of the absolute WORST situations.

If Allen & Mahomes switched draft places, Allen would have the rings and Mahomes would be seen as the 2nd best QB in the NFL. Just the way it is.

So yeah, Mahomes is no better than Allen. They’re equals, but Mahomes was lucky enough to be drafted into an elite situation.

Mahomes gets docked points because his team doesn't suck flaming aids cock. So Allen always gets the, "He does less with more!" bullshit argument.

And he's a physical runner instead of "just" the greatest scrambler the NFL has ever seen in Mahomes.

Physically, he looks a little more prototype.

TLDR; There is no argument to be made for any relevant metric.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Did i ****ing nail it, or did i nail it?

What a loser ass post. Good to have you back, Dick Licks.

It’s cumulative. Cam Newton was a workhorse with no major injury issues … until he wasn’t.

Just like RBs.

Keep him using him like a FB in the red zone and padding his TD stats (and covering up for his lack of efficiency and success throwing in the tighter area the red zone provides).

It will shorten his career.

So your entire argument is based what-ifs.

Meanwhile, KCs defense has been mediocre at best for Mahomes' entire career before this last season. That includes his first year as a starter when he was one Dee Ford penalty away from beating Brady to go to the Super Bowl despite the dog shit Chiefs D that year.

Even Allen's playoff peak...the 13 Second Game...only happened because KC's secondary was laughably bad and couldn't even stay on their feet.

I get it, you have to be optimistic. It's too soon for you to admit he's a more athletic Phillip Rivers, but you'll get there eventually.

Last time I checked, Mahomes dislocated his patella in 2019, sidelining him for games, and followed that up with a nasty high ankle sprain in the 2022 season (2023 playoffs). Meanwhile, Allen has had—*checks notes*—NOTHING. Yet all of you endlessly rant about how Allen’s running style is bound to get him injured, and guess what? IT HASN'T. In fact, the only injuries he’s ever had—minor ones, at that—happened while standing in the pocket. But sure, keep waxing poetic and gushing over how Allen’s running will *someday* hurt him. That day, if it ever comes, will be only half as many serious injuries as Mahomes has had not running.

People who slam a 30 pack of Natty Lite and then jump off their trucks head first into flaming folding tables don't value intelligence?!

Ignorant fans love the Cam Newton example. They just have forgotten that Cam’s career derailed due to a shoulder injury that happened NOT when he was scrambling!

The dislocated patella - 2 games, wanted to finish the game in which he was injured. Not a serious injury.

The high ankle sprain - 0 games, beat the league's best defense in the Super Bowl. Not a serious injury.

Total - 0 serious injuries in Mahomes' career.

Ridiculous amounts of cope in your posts.

Allen is 28, right?

How many of the great QBs in NFL history didn't have a championship before they turned 28? And how many of those EVER won one?

Len Dawson didn't win his first NFL Championship until he was 34 though he DID win the AFL championship with Dallas at 27 in 1962. Staubach didn't start playing until he was 27 but won it within 3 seasons (at age 29).

Tarkenton, Moon, Kelly, Marino never won one at all.

You have Elway, Brees, Manning and Young as guys who didn't win a Super Bowl early in their careers. Brees and Young didn't win until they left the team that drafted them. Elway had at least played in 2 before he turned 28.

So really, the only great to go as long as Allen already has without at least winning the Conference to then eventually win a championship with the team that drafted him was Peyton Manning.

Your list is one. One guy. And that guy won 5 MVPs (including winning in his age 27 season) and was known for his precision passing and the fact that he simply rarely took a clean hit. Josh Allen...isn't known for either of those things. In fact, erratic ball placement and exposing himself to contact are the two things he's best known for.

Time is slipping away from the Bills and they don't even realize it.

Alright **** face, lets do this.

1. Reid was recently fired from Philly and was thought of as a HC that was a poor game/clock manager and never ran the ball. It was said that he was a terrible talent evaulator and helped burn Philly's roster to the ground and that he couldn't win shit w/o his retired (fired?) DC.

No one was talking about him as a future HOF. **** outta here.

2. Again, no one was calling Kelce a future HOF TE prior to Mahomes. A good one, sure. Top 5, people said. Said he couldn't block. They called him "baby" Gronk. Mahomes put him in the HOF.

3. HOF WR talent? They had a raw, 5th round draft pick names Tyreek Hill. And while he was explosive with Alex, again, NO ONE PAID ATTENTION until Mahomes. No one was calling him a HOF.

4. A Team that hadn't won a playoff game in 50 years and was just laughed off the field by a pathetic Steelers team. **** off with that "playoff" shit.

5. Alex Smith never won a playoff game you ****ing moron.

6. You're a ****ing moron.

1. One of the most premiere DC/HC's in the league the year he was hired, who also, btw, came from Andy's coaching tree and brought over similar concepts to Buffalo.

2. Maybe your QB should spend more time developing guys around him like our QB does.

3. Your team traded for Diggs who was a premiere WR at the time and much more highly thought of than Tyreek Hill.

4. A team that had made multiple SB runs while the Chiefs were still trying to win a playoff game.

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Alright **** face, Josh Allen got to play with the #1 Defense in teh NFL for two consecutive seasons and still couldn't beat Mahomes in the playoffs.

Mahomes won a mother****ing SB with the worst WR roster in the league.

Mahomes took his team to another SB on one foot with an obliteterated OL.

Mahomes took his team to the SB in a season in which his ****ing knee cap was hanging on the side of his leg.

Mahomes had 13 seconds to win a game and still beat bitch ass Josh Allen and his top ranked defense.

GTFO with that gay shit

:LOL:
I can't believe this twat is back. What a loser.

Allen ****ed his elbow up and dealt with it all season and ya'll bitch ass losers leaned on that excuse hard.

And really, all you're telling me is that Mahomes did more with a busted knee cap than Josh Allen can do completely healthy.

Good to see this thread is back on track.

You have got to be shitting me.

No, but i am currently shitting on you, yes.

Mahomes is the most prolific scrambler in the history of the NFL. Deal with it.

Correction: The Chiefs did more than the Bills.

Last time I checked Allen drove the field and then watched as his kicker ****ed another playoffs.

There hasn’t been a time when Allen was the one leaving the field in the playoffs having thrown the game losing INT or whatever. It’s ALWAYS his teammates.

That is absolutely insanity.

MAYBE Allen shoulda got the ball in the end zone, eh?

Mahomes is better and Allen impregnates his teammate's GF's. Is what it is.

No, you're just a **** face.

Mahomes has absolutely made some critical scrambles in crucial games.

Titans AFC Championship right before half.

Eagles Super Bowl win to ice the game.

49ers Super Bowl in OT to extend the game winning drive.

Josh Allen yeeting the ball into the ether on 2nd and 3rd before the missed kick had nothing to do with it I guess

The funny part is that there are plenty of you who know i’m right. Who know that if Allen was drafted to KC and Mahomes to Buffalo, that Allen and KC would still have the rings.

You'll never admit it… but you know it.

And I know you know it.

LMAO

You wish.

Allen is nothing more than a modern Philip Rivers.

He'll go down with a number of Buffalo passing records to his name and a few division titles, then fade into nothingness and fondly remembered for his early years, culminating in 13 seconds.

Mahomes has written Allen's story for him.

Yep, it's not quantity that matters, it's quality. Mahomes saves his scrambles for when it matters most. Allen runs just because he can.

Apples to oranges. Unlike Mahomes, Allen has never played in a crucial game before. Dicklix is talking about all the scrambling Allen does in the preseason and regular season.

Maybe 1? Maybe? Allen is a turnover machine who often doesn’t use his head. Your guys offense had to literally run the ball last year to be effective and that’s what is happening again this year.

Mahomes has had to play his ass off against a damn good defense in 3 of his 4 Super Bowls. You really think that Allen wins those games? I don’t think he does

Mahomes didn't win back to back Super Bowls on his first attempt. Better pray he three petes on his first try

I've been mildly surprised that Allen and Lamar have lasted as long as they have. At some point credit is due that Lamar, mostly, avoids big hits and Allen really can take them

But it is rolling the dice. And in my opinion, Allen takes too many hits for very little upside. When he should slide or those running plays shouldn't have been called to begin with. These have injury potential and chance to shorten his career.

As far as high ankle sprain, I doubt Allen would have been immune if he had his leg rolled up like Mahomes did.

But I certainly can't see him winning a SB on one leg with one great TE, that had also been banged up, and the excuse for WRs that KC trotted out that year.

Had Allen been a Chief, he woulda tried to impregnate all of Tyreek's baby mommas.

Allen is too erratic to ever win a Super Bowlwhich is why he hasn’t and he won’t.

Little known fact. Allen has beaten all the teams that Mahomes has won Super Bowls against.

And with a garbage OC. And a poor game manager for a coach. And without a good o-line. And without good receivers.

Mahomes is Allen on a better team.

Buffalo needs to fire McDermott. His defense has choked pretty bad in 4 straight Playoff losses. Belichick is available.

There is no debate. Bills fans thinks Allen is better because he trucks linebackers. It’s true that Allen is bigger and physically more gifted. But Mahomes is superior in every other way.

As a passer, Mahomes is more accurate and has made all kinds of throws in crazy circumstances that we have yet to see Allen make.

Even as a runner, Mahomes is craftier and more elusive. But he’s also more strategic.

As a quarterback, Mahomes reads defenses better, sees the field better, and moves around in the pocket better.

As a field general, he has consistently shown more moxie when the game is on the line than any other QB in the history of the game. He inspires his teammates to be better. He is a proven champion.

I like your QB a lot. He might be number two. But he isn’t close to Mahomes.

LMAO Common Bills fan cope. We've broken them so thoroughly that they post fan fics about Josh Allen being on the Chiefs instead of Mahomes just so they can pretend he'd be as successful.

Remind me - did Mahomes injure that ankle while in the pocket? Or running?

Both QBs have had a coin flip rob them of their chance of winning a playoff game. For one it was just a minor speed bump on the road to 3 Lombardis. For the other it's the peak of their entire career.

Every single season, Bills fans will run down the rosters and say the Bills are equal or better than the Chiefs. And every single year after the Bills lose early in the playoffs and the Chiefs win the Super Bowls Bills fans will say that Mahomes has it easier and doesn’t have to do as much because of the team around him.

Allen still has not beaten a higher seeded team in the playoffs.

Allen accumulates stats in the post season but only because half of his post season games are the wildcard round. Mahomes has rarely played in it but when he does he has torched teams. Despite the much higher level of post season difficulty Mahomes is still a far superior post season QB in wins and stats.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

1. Daboll was the hottest OC in the league and it landed him a HC gig and he was highly credited with turning Allen into a viable QB.

2. It's not your coach that's a bad game manager, it's your QB.

3. But but but Gabe Davis and Diggs and Knox and Shakir and blah blah blah. You told us the Bills had great receivers.

What are you a reerun?

Mahomes is almost always #1 or #2 seed. He is almost always playing lower seeds than him 🤦🏻*♂️

One thing they point to is post season stats which they somehow have convinced themselves Allen is a better post season QB. It’s bonkers. The stats obviously don’t show that. In top of that Allen’s stats greatly benefit from having a wild card game each season. Half of his games are wild card games. They also have convinced themselves Allen was better in the 13 second game. Another complete fabrication.

That's not what he said, **** face.

After kicking Allen's teeth in @ Buffalo, (the #2 seed), Mahomes went and kicked the #1 seed's teeth @ Baltimore.

So unlike Allen, Mahomes has beaten higher seeds in the playoffs.

AND.....it's not Mahomes' fault he's a better regular season QB than Allen, thus putting his team in a better position to win.

Just one more thing that makes Mahomes better.

Look at the title of this thread before you start calling other people reeruns. His post was accurate.

LMAO Imagine being so skull ****ed by a rival that you imagine your star QB getting to play on their team just to pretend he'd be as successful.

"He's almost always playing lower seeds!"

*Except for last season when he went to Buffalo, the higher seed, kicked your ass and then won a SB. Bwahahaha.

Great post, dude.

Wouldn't that be a testament to his greatness?

You can't use that stupid "he's never played a road playoff game" shtick anymore, so this is the nonsense you're reduced to. It's really sad and pathetic.

Can I ban him yet? Dude's definitely been on the wrong end of a few folding tables since last season.

Ahh, yes, I do recall when Josh Allen missed that field goal at the end of the game.

You’re right.

No no no.

He's CP's "one cup" if you know what i mean.

You mean when Josh Allen failed to score enough points to win. In his own house.

LMAO Throwing up 2 yolo balls on 2nd and 3rd down during a 5/4 minute drill had just as much to do with you morons losing the game.

And even if the kicker didnt fail, it was for a ****ing tie. Dick Licks acting like that was the game winning FG or some shit.

We all know how this goes. Whoopie, you tie it up and then Mahomes finishes you off in OT.

Same ol'.