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Mecca 01-19-2024 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17346486)
Think he ends up with WWE. Been a known goal of his to perform at a Wrestlemania.

I think it's possible but there are other circumstances like Khan will massively overpay for him just like Osprey and Okada's family likely won't want to move since his wife is a tv star....AEW can offer those things that WWE can't.

Sassy Squatch 01-19-2024 03:44 PM

I don't think that's even close to good enough personally. Lesnar taking the belt and doing Punk/Lesnar could work but I'm pretty sure he's already pencilled in for Gunther

Mecca 01-19-2024 03:45 PM

Rollins will probably be fine for mania but it cuts it razor thin close.

Sassy Squatch 01-19-2024 03:46 PM

Depends on the grade of the tear.

Sassy Squatch 01-19-2024 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17346503)
I think it's possible but there are other circumstances like Khan will massively overpay for him just like Osprey and Okada's family likely won't want to move since his wife is a tv star....AEW can offer those things that WWE can't.

Eh. Ospreay has always leaned quite hard into the anti WWE schtick. Okada by comparison has been backstage numerous times and probably has at least a decent relationship with the top brass.

Not to mention with this international kick they've been on with the PLEs, if they want to run a couple shows in Japan having Okada and Nakamura would be a pretty hefty boon

The Franchise 01-19-2024 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17346504)
I don't think that's even close to good enough personally. Lesnar taking the belt and doing Punk/Lesnar could work but I'm pretty sure he's already pencilled in for Gunther

Looked to me like they would have Jey take the belt off of Gunther, so I guess Lesnar is coming in after that happens.

Jerm 01-19-2024 03:51 PM

They've been trying to get in bed with New Japan, All Japan, etc....what better way to do that than have Okada.

Like I could def. see him going to AEW but I do think the WWE will make a serious play for him and unlike Vince, HHH will respect Okada and probably bend over backwards for him in a lot of ways.

Mecca 01-19-2024 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17346518)
Eh. Ospreay has always leaned quite hard into the anti WWE schtick. Okada by comparison has been backstage numerous times and probably has at least a decent relationship with the top brass.

Not to mention with this international kick they've been on with the PLEs, if they want to run a couple shows in Japan having Okada and Nakamura would be a pretty hefty boon

It all really comes down to will Endeavor pony up what Tony will and does Okada want to remain living with his family in Japan, Osprey didn't want to move his family.

Sassy Squatch 01-19-2024 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17346528)
They've been trying to get in bed with New Japan, All Japan, etc....what better way to do that than have Okada.

Like I could def. see him going to AEW but I do think the WWE will make a serious play for him and unlike Vince, HHH will respect Okada and probably bend over backwards for him in a lot of ways.

Hell, Vince respected the hell out of Nakamura. It's his fault for phoning it in and derailing that run.

Sassy Squatch 01-19-2024 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17346523)
Looked to me like they would have Jey take the belt off of Gunther, so I guess Lesnar is coming in after that happens.

Jey Uso and Gunther seems more like it's primed for either the Rumble undercard or whatever they call the event between RR and Mania.

Mecca 01-19-2024 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17346532)
Hell, Vince respected the hell out of Nakamura. It's his fault for phoning it in and derailing that run.

Nakamura openly said he went to WWE to get paid to not work as hard, he literally viewed it as an opportunity to get paid to do less. He's content getting paid, being lazy in a lot of matches and fishing in his off time.

He didn't wanna work Japan style anymore.

Sassy Squatch 01-19-2024 03:57 PM

Huh. So according to Meltzer it may well be a triple threat between Rock, Reigns, and Rhodes.

Jerm 01-19-2024 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17346544)
Huh. So according to Meltzer it may well be a triple threat between Rock, Reigns, and Rhodes.

Not a chance IMO....they have one shot at Rock/Reigns, that's the match.

In58men 01-23-2024 07:23 AM

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The Franchise 01-23-2024 09:36 AM

So does that mean you have to have Netflix to watch it? That's going to piss a lot of people off if so.

Mecca 01-23-2024 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17358519)
So does that mean you have to have Netflix to watch it? That's going to piss a lot of people off if so.

That is what it means, Amazon was also in on it.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 12:08 PM

And the other shoe finally drops.

https://www.wsj.com/business/vince-m...d=hp_lead_pos2


Janel Grant, a former employee at WWE’s headquarters, said in a lawsuit filed Thursday that she was abused and sexually exploited by McMahon while he was chief executive. She alleged that McMahon lured her with promises of career advancement, and then he allegedly exploited her and trafficked her to other men inside the company.

Grant signed a nondisclosure agreement in 2022 in which McMahon agreed to pay $3 million for her to not discuss their relationship or to disparage him. The WWE received an anonymous tip in 2022 about the relationship and started a board investigation, which uncovered other payments by the CEO to women. Grant’s lawsuit said McMahon stopped making payments under the 2022 deal after the initial $1 million installment. The suit seeks to void the agreement and unspecified financial damages.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 12:12 PM

The lawsuit, filed in a Connecticut federal court, describes in graphic detail Grant’s account of interactions with the businessman and TV personality. She alleged that McMahon and another WWE executive locked her in an office in WWE’s headquarters in Stamford, Conn., on June 15, 2021, and took turns sexually assaulting her while other staff were working.

In the middle of another workday, on June 23, 2021, McMahon locked Grant inside his private locker room at WWE’s offices and forced himself on her over a massage table, the suit said. Later that day, McMahon’s personal assistant delivered $15,000 in Bloomingdale’s gift cards to Grant in her office.

The suit also includes screenshots of explicit text messages that McMahon allegedly sent to Grant. A May 2020 message said: “i’m the only one who owns U and controls who I want to f— U.”

Grant alleged that McMahon shared nude photos and explicit videos of her without consent with other WWE employees, unnamed executives and stars, and directed her to have sex with them. The suit cited a July 2020 text that said others at WWE wanted to have sex with her after seeing photos on McMahon’s phone, and the group laughed when he told them, “She may scream and try to say NO!!although it would B difficult to say anything with a c— down her throat.”

Grant alleged that the company diverted attention away from McMahon’s abuse by focusing on the accounting for the payouts. Others at WWE knew about McMahon’s misconduct but worked to conceal the wrongdoing, according to the suit.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 12:15 PM

That December, McMahon gave Grant’s personal cellphone number to the WWE star, the lawsuit said. The wrestler asked her to send a video of herself urinating, the suit said, and after she did, he called her a “b—.” That same month, the suit said, the star expressed a desire to “set a play date,” but a snowstorm disrupted his travel plans.

In January 2022, the suit said, McMahon told Grant that his wife, Linda McMahon, had discovered the relationship and he pressured Grant to sign an NDA in exchange for payments. The CEO warned Grant of reputational ruin that included pornographic content he had of her. He paid her about $1 million in February, the suit said, and later stopped making the payments.

After Grant signed the NDA, McMahon continued the abuse, according to the suit. It alleged that he forced Grant to perform oral sex on him the last time they met and then attempted to traffic her to the WWE star in March 2022. She texted the star explicit photos as directed by McMahon, but they didn’t meet, the suit said.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 12:17 PM

Oof. There's some really ****ed shit in those allegations, and I have a hard time believing at least some of them are not true given how TKO has already prepared exactly for this outcome. Hell, wouldn't shock me if someone higher up at TKO gave pertinent info to the lawyers of the accuser.

GloucesterChief 01-25-2024 12:43 PM

Trips finally throwing the old man out?

Jerm 01-25-2024 01:03 PM

Puts the whole Brock walking out of Smackdown when Vince left into a whole new picture....

Just abhorrent shit but nothing with Vince is surprising anymore sadly...

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 01:07 PM

Wow. Not linked by the article. There's some ****ing depraved shit in here.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...157647.1.0.pdf

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 01:09 PM

As one example of McMahon’s extreme depravity, on May 9, 2020, he defecated on Ms. Grant during a threesome, and then commanded her to continue pleasuring his “friend”— with feces in her hair and running down her back—while McMahon went to the bathroom to shower off. Upon his return from the bathroom, McMahon and his “friend” actively resumed the threesome, which lasted over an hour and a half, while Ms. Grant remained covered in McMahon’s filth. When McMahon’s “friend” left, McMahon ordered her to stay and to continue to sexually gratify him.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 01:15 PM

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pugsnotdrugs19 01-25-2024 01:22 PM

My goodness. That is so ****ed.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 01:25 PM

Vince was already pretty much put out to pasture, but how they handle Lesnars involvement will be interesting.

The Franchise 01-25-2024 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17362529)

McMahon totally looks like the guy who would type like that.

Also, what am I missing with Lesnar?

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17362556)
McMahon totally looks like the guy who would type like that.

Also, what am I missing with Lesnar?

J is an entire excerpt on Vince trafficking her to presumably Brock. The Summer 2021 date and the superstar expressing interest to return to other ventures matches up perfectly with Brock. (signed an 18 month deal around SummerSlam 2021 and was using UFC as leverage at the time.)

Mecca 01-25-2024 01:43 PM

The biggest issue here is that many people who were in positions of power when that happened, still are.

An internal investigation turned up "nothing" there may be heads rolling to try to prove they don't have a toxic culture.

TLO 01-25-2024 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17362529)

Goodness

Mecca 01-25-2024 01:44 PM

That doesn't even include the part where Vince shit on her head during a threesome.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17362582)
The biggest issue here is that many people who were in positions of power when that happened, still are.

An internal investigation turned up "nothing" there may be heads rolling to try to prove they don't have a toxic culture.

They didn't even interview the woman filing this lawsuit.

The Franchise 01-25-2024 01:45 PM

Vince named dildos that he would use on her after WWE wrestlers. What the actual ****…

Mecca 01-25-2024 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17362592)
Vince named dildos that he would use on her after WWE wrestlers. What the actual ****…

And apparently participated in a threeway that involved John Laurinaitis...that's ****ing disturbing.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17362592)
Vince named dildos that he would use on her after WWE wrestlers. What the actual ****…

LMAOThis situation is horrifying for that poor gal, but that's the most Vince McMahon thing ever

Mecca 01-25-2024 01:49 PM

Some "highlights"

The suit also includes screenshots of explicit text messages that McMahon allegedly sent to Grant. A May 2020 message said: “i’m the only one who owns U and controls who I want to **** U.”

The suit cited a July 2020 text that said others at WWE wanted to have sex with her after seeing photos on McMahon’s phone, and the group laughed when he told them, “She may scream and try to say NO!!although it would B difficult to say anything with a cock down her throat.”

When they met, McMahon allegedly made promises of a job at WWE and showered Grant with gifts. During meetings that were supposed to be about the job, he greeted her in his underwear and repeatedly asked for hugs.

He forcefully used sex toys on her, including dildos he named after WWE wrestlers, causing her bruising and bleeding, the suit said.

In a May 2020 encounter, McMahon defecated on her head during a threesome, the suit said.

In the June 2021 encounter inside the WWE office, the suit said McMahon and Laurinaitis forced themselves on her and took turns restraining her for the other, while saying “No means yes” and “Take it, bitch.”

The suit said McMahon shared the explicit photos with the star [likely Brock Lesnar] and informed Grant that “he likes what he sees.” After the star agreed to a new WWE contract, McMahon texted Grant in August 2021 to say “that part of the deal was ****ing U.”

That December, McMahon gave Grant’s personal cellphone number to the WWE star, the lawsuit said. The wrestler asked her to send a video of herself urinating, the suit said, and after she did, he called her a “bitch.” That same month, the suit said, the star expressed a desire to “set a play date,” but a snowstorm disrupted his travel plans.


What in the actual ****

The Franchise 01-25-2024 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17362598)
LMAOThis situation is horrifying for that poor gal, but that's the most Vince McMahon thing ever

Best response to that I saw on Reddit (and feel horrible laughing at it) is that he had one named John Cena with a little green arm band on it.

Mecca 01-25-2024 01:51 PM

Also is it surprising to anyone that Vince texts like a 12 year old boy?

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2024 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17362605)
Also is it surprising to anyone that Vince texts like a 12 year old boy?

No. If anything it just adds more legitimacy.

Jerm 01-25-2024 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17362603)
Some "highlights"

The suit also includes screenshots of explicit text messages that McMahon allegedly sent to Grant. A May 2020 message said: “i’m the only one who owns U and controls who I want to **** U.”

The suit cited a July 2020 text that said others at WWE wanted to have sex with her after seeing photos on McMahon’s phone, and the group laughed when he told them, “She may scream and try to say NO!!although it would B difficult to say anything with a cock down her throat.”

When they met, McMahon allegedly made promises of a job at WWE and showered Grant with gifts. During meetings that were supposed to be about the job, he greeted her in his underwear and repeatedly asked for hugs.

He forcefully used sex toys on her, including dildos he named after WWE wrestlers, causing her bruising and bleeding, the suit said.

In a May 2020 encounter, McMahon defecated on her head during a threesome, the suit said.

In the June 2021 encounter inside the WWE office, the suit said McMahon and Laurinaitis forced themselves on her and took turns restraining her for the other, while saying “No means yes” and “Take it, bitch.”

The suit said McMahon shared the explicit photos with the star [likely Brock Lesnar] and informed Grant that “he likes what he sees.” After the star agreed to a new WWE contract, McMahon texted Grant in August 2021 to say “that part of the deal was ****ing U.”

That December, McMahon gave Grant’s personal cellphone number to the WWE star, the lawsuit said. The wrestler asked her to send a video of herself urinating, the suit said, and after she did, he called her a “bitch.” That same month, the suit said, the star expressed a desire to “set a play date,” but a snowstorm disrupted his travel plans.


What in the actual ****

I saw another excerpt that said Lesnar requested she send him a video of her pissing....I'm like what in the blue hell, sick ****s.

Mecca 01-25-2024 02:01 PM

It's rather concerning that likely most everyone at WWE knew about this..including people like Triple H and Stephanie..I mean shit they're family.

big nasty kcnut 01-25-2024 02:02 PM

Ol Vince screw the pooch.

Mecca 01-25-2024 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut (Post 17362628)
Ol Vince screw the pooch.

It was a woman this time.

Jerm 01-25-2024 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17362627)
It's rather concerning that likely most everyone at WWE knew about this..including people like Triple H and Stephanie..I mean shit they're family.

Of course they knew, they all knew...hell Stephanie tried starting up a "thank you Vince" chant on Smackdown I believe it was on the day Vince was initially sent packing.

Pushead2 01-25-2024 02:06 PM

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TLO 01-25-2024 02:14 PM

I think Vince might legitimately be a sociopath.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-25-2024 05:06 PM

Jfc

kstater 01-25-2024 08:52 PM

I would imagine this will kill the Netflix deal no?

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BryanBusby 01-25-2024 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17363334)
I would imagine this will kill the Netflix deal no?

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Maybe the Vince docu. TKO will push everything involved with Vince out so people like Triple H are probably ****ed.

TLO 01-26-2024 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 17363408)
Maybe the Vince docu. TKO will push everything involved with Vince out so people like Triple H are probably ****ed.

Nah.

New World Order 01-26-2024 06:28 AM

I still like watching old school 90s wrestling from time to time.

That’s going to stop now

otherstar 01-26-2024 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17362627)
It's rather concerning that likely most everyone at WWE knew about this..including people like Triple H and Stephanie..I mean shit they're family.

Yeah...that's probably why Stephanie left when Vince came back (and I really wouldn't be surprised if she was, in some way, a victim of Vince's when she was younger...I really hope not, but I read all 67 pages of the court document and little would surprise me now).

Jerm 01-26-2024 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otherstar (Post 17363619)
Yeah...that's probably why Stephanie left when Vince came back (and I really wouldn't be surprised if she was, in some way, a victim of Vince's when she was younger...I really hope not, but I read all 67 pages of the court document and little would surprise me now).

Maybe not of Vince but there's long been rumors of Randy Savage grooming her basically and something may or may not have happened there...who the **** knows with this cesspool.

BryanBusby 01-26-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17363537)
Nah.

He was on the investigation committee that buried the entire thing. He could be in some legal hot water.

GloucesterChief 01-26-2024 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17363631)
Maybe not of Vince but there's long been rumors of Randy Savage grooming her basically and something may or may not have happened there...who the **** knows with this cesspool.

That was just gossip and looks to be completely untrue. The reality is that Macho took the Slim Jim deal with him when he went to WCW. That was the cause of the animosity between Savage and McMahon.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-26-2024 09:45 AM

Vince wanted to do a storyline where he knocked up his own daughter

loochy 01-26-2024 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17363689)
Vince wanted to do a storyline where he knocked up his own daughter

Better than shitting on her in a 3some

Jerm 01-26-2024 01:33 PM

Rumors making the rounds on Twitter that Slim Jim is pulling their sponsorship of the Rumble tomorrow and evaluating their long term committment...

Nothing confirmed though.

Mosbonian 01-27-2024 09:11 PM

Watching the Royal Rumble as a plus to subscribing for Peacock for the year.... my thoughts thus far...

Women's Royal Rumble....Winner (Yawn) Saw that coming a mile away...but will say that seeing Jade Cargill drop Nia Jax over the rope was nice to watch. Would have preferred to have seen Jade Cargill win and challenge Mami.

Fatal 4 Way....Winner (Another Yawn) The match was good to watch but so predictable that it really made it anticlimactic.

Mosbonian 01-27-2024 09:16 PM

Fully convinced that the other 2 matches will be disappointing to some extent too

Mosbonian 01-27-2024 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17364169)
Rumors making the rounds on Twitter that Slim Jim is pulling their sponsorship of the Rumble tomorrow and evaluating their long term committment...

Nothing confirmed though.

They have been a sponsor tonight....their commercials have Savage on video but LA Knight and Bianca Belair in person

Mosbonian 01-27-2024 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17366358)
Fully convinced that the other 2 matches will be disappointing to some extent too

LOL....Logan Paul and Kevin Owen....good match, weird ending.

TLO 01-27-2024 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17366379)
LOL....Logan Paul and Kevin Owen....good match, weird ending.

It was a pretty creative ending, honestly.

Logan Paul is a natural at wrestling.

Mosbonian 01-27-2024 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17366384)
It was a pretty creative ending, honestly.

Logan Paul is a natural at wrestling.

Guess I see it differently...he looks stiff to me.

Mosbonian 01-27-2024 10:45 PM

Who didn't guess the final 2 were going to be?

Mosbonian 01-27-2024 10:53 PM

Ok.....I am surprised that Rhodes won since I was fully expecting CM Punk to be the winner.

big nasty kcnut 01-27-2024 10:59 PM

Cody going to finish the story come hell or high water.

BryanBusby 01-28-2024 12:03 AM

Man, HHH handled that fake presser about as poorly as one could.

big nasty kcnut 01-28-2024 12:36 AM

Jordyanne grace was a big shocker thou I wish moose would of come out for the men or joe hendry.

Jerm 01-29-2024 01:38 PM

Apparently Punk got injured during the Rumble...some rumors that it's a torn triceps...

Mecca 01-29-2024 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17375148)
Apparently Punk got injured during the Rumble...some rumors that it's a torn triceps...

Again?

That's the injury he got against Moxley, dude is to old to not get hurt apparently.

Sassy Squatch 01-29-2024 02:35 PM

Yep. Just saw where he got it. Took that DDT from McIntyre and he immediately rolls over and holds his tricep.

Mecca 01-29-2024 02:37 PM

Maybe CM Punk should consider retirement.

dirk digler 01-29-2024 03:57 PM

He is done and honestly wasn't impressed with his return. boring....

The Franchise 01-29-2024 04:06 PM

Can he challenge Seth and have a cripple match for the belt?

Mecca 01-31-2024 12:41 PM

New Japan Pro Wrestling and Pro Wrestling Tees will both be pulling official merchandise and t-shirts for Kazuchika Okada as of tomorrow, 2/1. Today would be the final day to order those items.

The belief among those we've spoken with is today is his final day under contract with NJPW and that tomorrow, he will officially be a free agent.

As PWInsiderElite has noted previously, the belief is that with his long-time friendship with The Young Bucks, AEW is Okada's likely destination. When Okada was a rookie on excursion in the United States and wrestling for TNA, The Young Bucks took him under their wing and befriended him, assisting him out when most others left Okada to his own devices to navigate living, traveling and working in a foreign country. Okada has maintained a steadfast loyalty to the Bucks in the years since as he evolved into one of the best in-ring wrestlers in the world.

Okada is being represented by Barry Bloom for negotiations with his next deal. Bloom was with him when Okada wrestled for TNA in Las Vegas. PWInsider is told there are no current talks between TNA and Okada and he is not expected to appear there again. We are also told that if there were any discussions between Okada and WWE, they were not of any great length of depth.

Sassy Squatch 01-31-2024 01:04 PM

Okada is ****ing nuts if he goes to AEW instead of WWE given current circumstances.

Mecca 01-31-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17378240)
Okada is ****ing nuts if he goes to AEW instead of WWE given current circumstances.

To be really really honest, he may not think WWE will present him properly..or he may not want to be associated with WWE with well you know..

Or it could be something as simple as not moving his family to America.

Sassy Squatch 01-31-2024 03:19 PM

Why would Vince McMahon being a vile human being matter anymore. He's been ostracized and from the outside looking in, apart from HHH pulling a PR blunder at the press conference, they've played it about as well as they could have.

Present him properly? If that was a concern he'd have already signed with WWE. Being brutally honest, Khan has no earthly idea what the **** he's doing, and it becomes more and more glaring he farther out we get from him not being able to trade on fans being sick and tired of WWE. Every star WWE has decided to poach instantly becomes a much bigger star (Rhodes, Punk, Cargill, etc) and every name that goes to AEW is an irrelevant face in the crowd within a month.

If these guys want to play grabass with their friends on Khans dime, by all means, go for it, but I wouldn't be shocked if AEW isn't even a thing before most of these terms run out the way business has been for them recently.


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