I don't think that's most Royals fans.

I'm a minor league baseball follower because it's always fascinated me. It's a middle ground, as Deez has pointed out multiple times.

If you're a team that can't afford to buy talent on the FA market and signing your own players to enormous deals, you have to balance a good farm system with solid GM work and making good choices about which guys you keep on the MLB roster and which ones you're willing to cut ties with due to cost.

I'm not a cling to all prospects guy (in fact, I spent a good portion of the 2012 thread arguing that KC SHOULD trade then for Matt Garza) by any means. But when someone undervalues prospects and is suggesting shipping them out for garbage, like Petro was doing, I think it's clear they are missing part of the picture.

Yup. Would have to get a similar return to what they got for Montero (young, long-term controlled, SP with Cy Young stuff - minus the ticking time bomb shoulder).

Besides Kendrick and Weeks, what are some other options that we might have at 2B?

Reply I saw from Crasnick on ESPN.com re: will the Royals do anything today.

It shouldn't have.

So he was wrong, I don't care. The overall point of his message is to do something to make the major league team better and stop wasting time expecting a tidal wave of guys to make it through the system.

Doing nothing and finishing at or around .500.

Aybar

That point gets lost with his blind idiocy on elite tier-1 A+ prospects when he believed Myers was worth Jurrjens.

As much as we complained about Shields and Davis, this board would have gone absolutely ape-bleep on that trade.

If this current team is destined for "at or around .500", then we shouldn't trade for anyone, because a halfway-decent 2B is not going to get us another 7-8 wins in 2 months.

You only make a big trade today if you are afraid of finishing with 86-87 wins and falling just 1 or 2 games short, because thats all he'll be able to do for us over Getz.

You trade for someone today with '14 in mind.

Doing nothing would be a failure, in my view.

Can you even imagine trading Duffy or Ventura for a 0.7 WAR SS who is set to make 9M the next THREE years and who turns 30 this winter? I mean could we get any dumber than that?

The Jurrgens trade proposal was when Myers was in A ball. Single A. If we are going to protect guys that low in the system with an untradeable status then they will never compete.

We should worry about 2014 in the winter. Prices are higher on deadline day than in the winter. We probably shouldn't pay for 2 months of a guy, to the extent that we try at all to win in 2013, we need at least a year and 2 months, but if we really think this team as-is will finish .500 as suggested above, then we shouldn't trade for anyone today.

I concur.

When we traded 6 years of Myers for 2 years of Shields, it was all-in on a short window. Don't agree with that, but since it is what it is, then effing go for it.

Instead, what I'm seeing so far (and the day is young), is DM raising expectations to excuse not trading Santana ("We're in it to win as many games as possible!") and then lowering expectations to excuse not adding players to help compete ("Oven's not on, crickets chirping, so hard to make trades these days," etc.).

He wants it both ways. **** that shit.