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BWillie 09-03-2011 08:57 PM

Why is no one talking about the idea of Texas going independent? They have their own network now. Buy did it, why not Texas .....they don't care about anyone except themselves anyway

Imon Yourside 09-03-2011 08:59 PM

OSU's Boone Pickens chides Texas, predicts Big 12's demise

While Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds professed his love for the Big 12, Oklahoma State billionaire booster Boone Pickens says the league won't last much longer.

Pickens believes the Cowboys will end up in the Pac-12, with Oklahoma. He largely blames Texas' insistence on creating the Longhorn Network.

"The network could have been the straw that broke the camel's back," Pickens said.

Dodds "is a friend of mine," Pickens said. "But DeLoss had too many cards and he played every damn one of them. I think that's too bad. You get tired of saying ‘aaah' while you get something shoved down your throat."

Dodds says Texas will be watching to see what happens over the next few days if Oklahoma decides to leave the Big 12.

Texas A&M has announced its plans to leave the Big 12. Oklahoma President David Boren on Friday acknowledged multiple conferences have shown interest in the Sooners. He said OU is likely to decide within three weeks whether it is staying or going.

Dodds says Texas will be fine no matter what happens to the Big 12.

Pickens doesn't want OSU to make a hasty decision.

"Don't rush the monkey and you'll see a better show," Pickens said. "We don't have to decide this weekend.

"This conversation is going to come up every year as long as the conference is not equal. You've got to have an equal deal like the SEC."

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said he is willing to listen if Oklahoma or anyone else wants to join his conference.

Scott said that "schools have reached out to us."

He said that the courtship is different from last year, when the league was looking for expansion candidates. "Any suggestion whatsoever that our conference is being predatory, that's just wrong," Scott said.

Pickens said TCU is the logical choice if the Big 12 wants to add a 10th team following Texas A&M's departure. He says Notre Dame and BYU wouldn't be good fits for the conference.

"Notre Dame already has a network and they're damaged merchandise, as far as I'm concerned," Pickens said. "I don't want Notre Dame. And BYU? Who in the hell knows where Provo, Utah, is? The natural one is TCU.

"You can fix the Big 12 now, but it's got to go to an equal deal, and it's not equal."

Missouri athletic director Mike Alden did not go as far as OU's Boren, but hinted Missouri might be ready to leave.

"I'm saying we're being aggressive on the things we need to be aggressive on," Alden said. "We're working on improving Mizzou's brand every day. That's what we do."

Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said Friday, "You don't hear anything about any other league in the country having these kinds of problems. We all know where it starts."

http://www.statesman.com/sports/coll...s-1818353.html

WilliamTheIrish 09-03-2011 08:59 PM

The BE is great! For CBBall. I cringe at not having that solid footing that big name college football provides. Especially for have nots like my team.

I mean I'd love to go to MSG for the BE ball tourney. Without anchors like OU, UT and to a lesser degree Nubb, it's going to be difficult to maintain a BCS program. (IMO)

Imon Yourside 09-03-2011 08:59 PM

OSU's Boone Pickens chides Texas, predicts Big 12's demise

While Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds professed his love for the Big 12, Oklahoma State billionaire booster Boone Pickens says the league won't last much longer.

Pickens believes the Cowboys will end up in the Pac-12, with Oklahoma. He largely blames Texas' insistence on creating the Longhorn Network.

"The network could have been the straw that broke the camel's back," Pickens said.

Dodds "is a friend of mine," Pickens said. "But DeLoss had too many cards and he played every damn one of them. I think that's too bad. You get tired of saying ‘aaah' while you get something shoved down your throat."

Dodds says Texas will be watching to see what happens over the next few days if Oklahoma decides to leave the Big 12.

Texas A&M has announced its plans to leave the Big 12. Oklahoma President David Boren on Friday acknowledged multiple conferences have shown interest in the Sooners. He said OU is likely to decide within three weeks whether it is staying or going.

Dodds says Texas will be fine no matter what happens to the Big 12.

Pickens doesn't want OSU to make a hasty decision.

"Don't rush the monkey and you'll see a better show," Pickens said. "We don't have to decide this weekend.

"This conversation is going to come up every year as long as the conference is not equal. You've got to have an equal deal like the SEC."

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said he is willing to listen if Oklahoma or anyone else wants to join his conference.

Scott said that "schools have reached out to us."

He said that the courtship is different from last year, when the league was looking for expansion candidates. "Any suggestion whatsoever that our conference is being predatory, that's just wrong," Scott said.

Pickens said TCU is the logical choice if the Big 12 wants to add a 10th team following Texas A&M's departure. He says Notre Dame and BYU wouldn't be good fits for the conference.

"Notre Dame already has a network and they're damaged merchandise, as far as I'm concerned," Pickens said. "I don't want Notre Dame. And BYU? Who in the hell knows where Provo, Utah, is? The natural one is TCU.

"You can fix the Big 12 now, but it's got to go to an equal deal, and it's not equal."

Missouri athletic director Mike Alden did not go as far as OU's Boren, but hinted Missouri might be ready to leave.

"I'm saying we're being aggressive on the things we need to be aggressive on," Alden said. "We're working on improving Mizzou's brand every day. That's what we do."

Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said Friday, "You don't hear anything about any other league in the country having these kinds of problems. We all know where it starts."

http://www.statesman.com/sports/coll...s-1818353.html

WilliamTheIrish 09-03-2011 08:59 PM

The BE is great! For CBBall. I cringe at not having that solid footing that big name college football provides. Especially for have nots like my team.

I mean I'd love to go to MSG for the BE ball tourney. Without anchors like OU, UT and to a lesser degree Nubb, it's going to be difficult to maintain a BCS program. (IMO)

chiefsfan987 09-03-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 7877407)
Welp, KU is fukced.

yup. I just saw the clip from Zenger on kusports.com and its clear that he's blindsided from whats going on in OU.

|Zach| 09-03-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7877694)
Why is no one talking about the idea of Texas going independent? They have their own network now. Buy did it, why not Texas .....they don't care about anyone except themselves anyway

Well it is interesting. My take on Texas before the Aggie exit was that after keeping the B12 together they were going to use these next few years with the 10 team Big 12 to get LHN off the ground and gain steam. When it was going full force they were gonna go independent.

I wonder how much the problems with the LHN and the craziness of not doing things on their schedule (which doesnt happen alot to Texas) has changed their desire to want to pull the trigger on going Indie.

Reerun_KC 09-03-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 7877703)
yup. I just saw the clip from Zenger on kusports.com and its clear that he's blindsided from whats going on in OU.

Those idiots are going to sit around and hope someone drags them along. When they should be out sucking the dick of any BCS conference that will take them...

Otherwise its hello midwest plains FBS/FCS or DII conference... LMAO

Imon Yourside 09-03-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7877709)
Those idiots are going to sit around and hope someone drags them along. When they should be out sucking the dick of any BCS conference that will take them...

Otherwise its hello midwest plains FBS/FCS or DII conference... LMAO

ACC here we come. ;)

Reerun_KC 09-03-2011 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 7877711)
ACC here we come. ;)

more like sunbelt conference her we come...

|Zach| 09-03-2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7877704)
Well it is interesting. My take on Texas before the Aggie exit was that after keeping the B12 together they were going to use these next few years with the 10 team Big 12 to get LHN off the ground and gain steam. When it was going full force they were gonna go independent.

I wonder how much the problems with the LHN and the craziness of not doing things on their schedule (which doesnt happen alot to Texas) has changed their desire to want to pull the trigger on going Indie.

Another thought crossed my mind. Maybe Texas is thinking that right now in time being independent would be good for Texas. But what does the NCAA landscape look next year? 3 years from now? 5? 10?

I wonder if the unknown nature of all the huge changes happening around the country makes them think being aligned with a big time conference is simply the smart move.

Braincase 09-03-2011 09:13 PM

PAC has an interesting policy amongst the schools - they all have veto power, and joining the conference must be unanimous. My best guess is that the PAC would be inclined towards OU and KU. Last thing they want to due is invite the 800 pound gorilla into the room and give Texas the authority to veto everything the west coast teams want to do to advance their conference. Texas would do to the PAC exactly what they've done to the Big 12 and the SWC. They're a freakin' cancer... with big fake hair and fake tits.

tk13 09-03-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 7877725)
PAC has an interesting policy amongst the schools - they all have veto power, and joining the conference must be unanimous. My best guess is that the PAC would be inclined towards OU and KU. Last thing they want to due is invite the 800 pound gorilla into the room and give Texas the authority to veto everything the west coast teams want to do to advance their conference. Texas would do to the PAC exactly what they've done to the Big 12 and the SWC. They're a freakin' cancer... with big fake hair and fake tits.

Your argument makes sense... but this is all about $$. And Texas football is where the money is... not KU football. And worst case scenario for the Pac 12/14/16/29, at least they get OU and OSU football and say screw the rest of them.

|Zach| 09-03-2011 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7877736)
Your argument makes sense... but this is all about $$. And Texas football is where the money is... not KU football. And worst case scenario for the Pac 12/14/16/29, at least they get OU and OSU football and say screw the rest of them.

I didn't know about the veto structure Braincase talked about. I wouldn't be surprised if there was mass expansion for a conference like the PAC to change the decision making structure. The bigger a conference is (aside from the idea of Texas being mad dickish) the less an easy type veto system makes sense.

HolyHandgernade 09-03-2011 09:47 PM

I'm actually thinking KU, MU and KSU go to the Big East. I know MU may have options, but I think they would prefer the Big East to the SEC for three reasons:

Preserves rivalries with KU and KSU
Easier path to conference championship
Mizzou prides itself on its academic reputation and the SEC doesn't help that

Those three pair with TCU, South Florida and Louisville and they get to keep the Texas recruiting lines they've established plus try and stake out Florida as well.

The conference would still be an AQ conference though obviously devoid of heavyweights. It won't warrant a contract on the level of the Big Three, but it should still be a sizable deal, especially since all that Big XII money will be freed up.

Plus, all three of those schools are basketball schools as well and a 20 team conference would surely offer Kansas City a part of a huge basketball tournament. You would have to hold initial rounds at two different sites with maybe a Final Four to New York?

KC would still be a vital college sports town.

What do you think Tiggers? Do you like that or do you think the Mizzou faithful would demand the SEC if it offers?


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