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I was expecting this conversation about week 8 or 9. It was week 1....ROFL

There was some really bad football played yesterday.

In terms of teams that looked like they were executing at somewhat of a high level, here's what I saw. I didn't see everything, but here's what I saw.

Chiefs
Ravens
Rams
Lions
Saints

Teams that are probably OK, but too hard to tell from week 1.
Eagles
Packers
Texans (they were pretty sloppy)
Colts (they were pretty sloppy)
Bills (if Allen lives)

IMPORTANT UPDATE: It's three times MVP finalist Josh Allen

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Like I said before the season, with the lack of weapons forcing Allen to run more, and the fact that he's objectively due for an injury, I'd be shocked if he makes it out another season without a significant injury.

Yesterday was the exact expectation of what the 2024 Bills are. Team regressed and a top 5 QB does just enough to bail them out at the end

Buffalo needed Josh Allen to play hero ball to beat Arizona… a likely non playoff team… at home.

Not sustainable for an entire season and against better competition.

Same with Lamar, it's not sustainable. I don't care if you're built like Allen or run like Lamar....eventually it just catches up.

It may have been the smart thing for the Bills to rebuild or reset anyway. Their window likely closed last year or year before.

Dallas boat raced Cleveland.

I just need to call out that the Rams looked awful. Their current o-line is below replacement level. That team is screwed.

I would have murdered to have Allen on the Chiefs in the 90's and 2000's. Complete QB. Doesn't act like a little bitch or burn the team in post game interviews (RGIII, Tom Brady). Howitzer for an arm. Accurate...I honestly can't understand the level of misery these bills fans live through knowing that this once in a lifetime HOFer has to exist in the same era as Mahomes. LOL.

Honestly, most of the AFC looked like shit.

Miami should've lost, Buffalo would've lost to a better opponent. Cincy did. I mean I guess the Texans win depends on what you think of Indy - I didn't expect them to get pushed like that though. Jacksonville is the team that duffed the game to Miami.

Even KC and Baltimore weren't sharp. But both of them looked better than anything else I saw from an AFC team last weekend.

Week 1 can be weird but most of the time you'll at least see a handful of teams that looked genuinely good. I just didn't see much of that out of the AFC.

He's too dumb to be a championship caliber QB and has no "clutch gene". He and Lamar share a brain.

No, he just acts like a little bitch during games to his opponents AND his teammates.

The Cowboys were the best team I saw this weekend.

Sure, Watson was bad, but man that Cowboys defense was flying around. They were everywhere and made life really tough on DeShawn.

Doesn't mean anything - they'll Cowboy it up. But for a week they deserve some flowers. They hit the ground running on Sunday and looked damn good.

As for the Rams/Lions - the teams looked good but the QBs both looked spotty in that game. Both guys made really odd decisions.

The Saints beat on the worst team ever assembled.

Watson was that remarkably ****tarcularly bad that I don't think we know anything about Dallas yet. Other than Parsons is good and Watson can't do ****all about it.

Fair. Maybe I'm underselling them because it was shocking how bad Watson was. With all that money. Fully guaranteed. It may be tinting my perspective.

Lamar is in trouble.

He's not as slippery as he used to be. Used to be that he could run like he ran on Thursday and maybe take one decent hit in the game.

He took what, 6 big hits against us? I mean he just cannot keep doing that. And I think we saw in the playoff game last year that his top gear isn't as good as it used to be. If he's in the open field now, it's a 20 yard run instead of a 60 yarder.

Life's getting harder for Lamar. He's gotta put more on the line to get similar results.

It ain't gonna work.

Once I heard "he's losing weight this offseason to regain speed" I threw up a red flag.

I think a lot of it was us. He (and the rest of the entire ****ing league) HATE us and are sick and tired of losing to us. There was one play where he could have (and should have) easily went out of bounds but turned it up and hit Connor (I think) who was ready and really laid it hard on him. I remember thinking what the **** is this moron doing?

But I'm pretty sure it's us and he probably won't do it except for us and the other AFCN teams - which as bad as they all looked they may not need to.

EDIT: Your point stands though. What he used to streak away from dudes, he's getting caught. The twitch is slower and the top end is a tick slower. If he uses the rocks rattling around his dome, I think he's slippery enough to stay out of trouble. But he didn't listen to the rocks Thursday.

That is hilarious! One of the funniest memes I've seen in awhile.

The Bills take the AFC this seasom
 

I went back and watched their game and tracked all the snaps from inside the 10 yard line. They came out as the following:

Cook runs - 2
Allen designed runs - 2
Passes turned Allen run - 1
Allen passes - 1

Only one of these was a third down play, which was one of Allen’s designed runs.

The rams have some talent, but they were what?, down to third string OL and Detroit had to go to OT to beat them at home. Not feeling that great if I'm a Lions fan.

I think GB is in trouble with Love being out.

Yea, it's hard to see Allen making it through the season, but I've thought that before.

Texans might be for real. If Mixon stays healthy that really adds an element for them.

100% self inflicted

Cook was running tough, Allen was spreading the ball around nicely but whenever its 3rd/4th and goal line/short yardage he just can't help himself and turns into Super Dave Osborne

It was like 4th and 4 at some point in the game and the entire announcing crew was like 'can't run the ball here', 'no way you can run here'. Not only did they run but it was an Allen draw that anyone who's seen Allen play knew was coming

Josh has better Playoff stats than any current QB excluding Mahomes. I don’t think it’s fair to lump in Josh with Lamar’s chokejob tendencies.

Josh already injured.

It's what happens to RBs. All the hits take their toll and the result is a shorter career. Good thing for him they're winning lots of playoff games right now.

Check out their trophy cases, and you'll find no conference championships or Lombardis, despite them having the league's top defense at least once each. Jackson has two regular season MVPs which is...something, I suppose.

McDermott says Allen's hand checked out fine and he's in practice and will play Thursday.

Their CB is out tho.

Buffalo's defense has been a paper tiger. Absolutely torched 3 times by Mahomes and once by Burrow during the last 4 years of Playoff games.

The Baltimore defense did their job. They held Mahomes to 17 points. Not their fault Lamar only put 10 points on the board against the KC defense. By comparison, Buffalo did pretty well to put 24 points on a strong KC defense.

Here are the 16-game averages for big name QB's in the Playoffs:


https://i.ibb.co/6FVwT4P/Playoff-QB-Stats.jpg


Playoff Scoring

Patrick Mahomes - 29 points per game
Josh Allen - 27 points per game
Joe Burrow - 22 points per game
Lamar Jackson - 16 points per game


Looking at these numbers, I think Josh Allen is better than Burrow. Lamar has choked pretty bad in the Playoffs, averaging just 16 points per game and throwing an equal number of interceptions compared to touchdown passes.

Burrow has had a phenomenal defense backing him. He wins over 70% of his playoff games while only scoring 22 points per game. In 4 of his 5 Playoff wins, the Cincy defense held the opponent below 20 points. The QB doesn't have to do much to win a game if the defense is playing like that. Even in their 2 playoff losses, the Cincy defense only allowed 23 points in each of those games.

I live in Charlotte and the radio homers here are just absolutely delusional. All summer I listened to their optimism for the new staff, and to them make every excuse under the sun for Bryce and thought "oh man this is going to be hilarious when they suck balls again"

They did not disappoint-it was absolute gold. NOW they're done with Bryce, now it's his fault instead of the shitty cast around him, and he's afraid to get hit by NFL linemen so he's too big of a pussy to step up in the pockets etc. etc.

I've never seen just unbridled delusional homers as bad as them, but boy it sure lasted a lot shorter this season than in years past.

Week 1 and they are DONE LMFAO

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Meh, I think Burrow has always been overrated too. He got his one and only meaningful trophy (AFCCG) because KC went full reerun and handed him the win on a silver platter.

It's probably just a bone bruise, then. Still painful.

You do wonder if perhaps he'll be slightly less aggressive running the ball and inviting contact than normal. I wouldn't bet on it.

Taron Johnson being out against Miami is a tough one, too. He's a good slot corner, and they don't have a great secondary to start. Could be tough sledding against Hill and Waddle without Johnson...

No love for Baker and the Bucs? I thought they looked good, albeit against the Commanders.

Even setting aside that game, Burrow has 4 wins in the Playoffs where his defense pretty much handed the victories to him on a silver platter. They had a game against Baltimore (backup QB) where the Ravens were about to score a TD to take the lead, but the Cincy defense stripped the ball and ran it back 99 yards for a TD. The game finished 24-17. A week later, the Cincy defense shutdown Josh Allen to only 10 points. They also held the Raiders & Titans below 20 points in games where Burrow didn't need to do much to win.

Texans are good. But Colts pretty close.

I think Colts would beat the Bills.

Getting Allen the MVP must be the 2024 seasom goal

Refs definitely wanted the Bills to win.

Mason gonna get his TD one way or another.

1) The Bills are back and this is their best team ever.

2) We dumped the toxin that was Diggs and are now rolling with a steady dose of Shakir, Hollins, and Knox. Kincaid too.

3) James Cook is excellent.

4) As you all know, based on him winning half of the games against KC and taking the incredible Mahomes to the brink numerous times, Josh Allen is greatness and continues to be. It’s funny watching several of you talking about his “inevitable” injury. You have been saying it for close to a decade now (7 years flies by!). I assume you will be saying it until his HOF enshrinement. I heard his gold bust may be him hurdling a Chief.

5) Addition by subtraction folks. Addition by subtraction. The Patriots reloaded for 2 decades and kept winning super bowls. Oftentimes with nobodies. It’s the Bills turn.

extra credit: Allen is taking MVP this season

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I won’t be taking any questions.

* mic drop *

The pathetic Cardinals beat you if A. Kyler sees Marvin. B. The refs call 1 of TWO obvious PIs on that pathetic secondary of yours. Cardinals feasted on that defense m

If ifs and butts were candy and nuts.

Bills beat KC in 13 seconds if Butker misses the field goal.

Chiefs lose the Super Bowl last season is Shanahan didn’t go full reread

Only reason the 9ers were even in is because they held every ****ing pass play.

If they didn’t the chiefs blow them out of the stadium.

Spoiler...Butker does not miss. Unlike Wide Right boy in Buffalo

Butker did miss a field goal earlier in the 13 seconds game. Too bad for you he didn't miss the next one, lol

I wouldn't blame Shanahan for the Niners loss. I would blame a couple of flukey plays on special teams that probably shifted the game by 8 points in regulation. Shit happens.

I see the excuses are fair for thee but not for me!

Shanahan and the 49ers didn’t know the OT rules. It was beyond stupid.

This post sailed wide right of the mark

They knew the rules. Shanahan quote on the OT decision:

"We went through all the analytics and talked to those guys. We just thought it would be better (to take the ball first). We wanted the ball third. If both teams matched and scored, we wanted to be the ones who had the chance to go win. Got that field goal, so knew we had to hold them to at least a field goal, and if we did, then we thought it was in our hands after that."

Makes no sense.

fox10phoenix.com/sports/49ers-players-unaware-overtime-rules-super-bowl-lviii.amp

Players are idiots in general. The coaches knew the rule. I think it's a case of analytics over-thinking stuff. They thought way too much about the scenario where the game is tied after each team has touched the ball. They didn't think enough about the scenario where they kick a FG on the opening possession, lol

Is the cat laying a dead Cardinal at master's door

Going 2nd also gives you that extra down, as you know what you have to do. That alone is a HUGE reason to go 2nd.

Sweet.

Diqlix is back

OMG. Diqlix is back!!!!!

The Bills are a clown show who have won absolutely NOTHING. Ever.

Bearcat, put the Ban Gun down.

Just listen to us. Let it live. Let it exist. We, the greatest fan base and forum and thus, the greatest football fan thing on the internet, shall handle this.

We deserve this. Do it for America. Do it for the children.

Shall we talk about his inevitable playoff losses instead?

Would that make you feel better??

Really hope diqlix sticks around long enough for some more crazy antics.

The old guy with the notebook of CP names was my favorite

You're about to have this thread bumped every 10 minutes.

Nothing like confidence, but reading this post makes me think you've completely forgotten the Bills' playoff record against the Chiefs.

The funniest thing about this low-quality bait is not even mentioning your top pick WR while naming Mack Hollins. LMAO

This is totally right here. Any analytics that say you should take the ball first cannot be taking this into account.


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Let’s just say i’m not as enthusiastic about Coleman as some other Bills fans.

Hope i’m wrong of course.

You know what they say about winning. You haven’t done it until you’ve done it. But once you’ve done it, you’ve done it. And then once it’s done, you’re no different having done it.

So what’s your point?

the bills are trash and aren't going to do shit

Who the hell is they? I've literally never heard anybody ever say that about winning.

The Chiefs before winning 3 superbowls in 5 years: 50 years of being irrelevant

The Chiefs after winning 3 superbowls in 5 years: Dynasty, perennial superbowl favorites, every other teams superbowl.

Yeah, no difference at all...

Welcome back.

See you in the playoffs.

He might not have made it out of week one. The way he plays, a broken left hand could be pretty bad and will linger.

Allen has the intelligence of a moth. That's why flames were added to the table jumps. Lure in Moth Man

LMAO Can't wait until this douche spergs out and gets tossed again for the 5th or 6th time.

Although I do admire the audacity to come back after DaFace and co more or less doxxed your stupid ass for being such an insufferable **** the last time you were here.

What in the blue hell is this nonsense?

Only thing I disagree with is “best fan base”. Though I honestly believe you are a close 2nd. Nothing tops Bills Mafia.

Allen already has a left hand injury and it’s only the first game. This isn’t gonna get better

The only reason anyone even knows that the bills have fans, is dildos, fingering each other's assholes in the stands and jumping on tables.

We literally existed before you.

At least the non Dallas version of you.

If this was a chicken and egg situation, you’d be the egg. Or maybe it’s the chicken. I don’t recall but you get the point.

As cool as the moaning arm chant is, it doesn’t top Bills Mafia. But I will give you a close 2nd (which is a good thing).

Bills inception-1960
Chiefs inception-1960

Your qualifier means jack shit.

Diqlix making Keon Coleman sound like Churchill with this nonsense

The Dallas Texans inception was 1960. The Chiefs didn’t exist until 1962.

Junior.