The only reason we'd need to clear space at this point is if we were making a splash/blockbuster trade for a veteran on a 2nd contract (aged 23-27).

[I say this because if we made a huge trade for a guy still on a rookie deal, we wouldn't need the cap space for this year. I also say this because the last thing in the world Brett Veach would do is make a blockbuster trade for an older vet (28+) with a big cap hit + critical draft picks.]

So if you see us doing a bunch of restructures paired with extensions all at once in the weeks leading up to the draft, that could be your signal.

I don't think this happens.

what are the numbers on DK's contract with the Chiefs anyone know

I could maybe see a trade after the draft....depending on what they came out of it with.

I'd send 30 to the Jags for Josh Allen and extend him but they have no reason to do that.

Unless they wanna take a rusher with the first pick this year they like better I guess.

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True, although I think that (a huge trade) might be less likely after the draft, since we'd pay a time-delay premium to the partner for having to wait a full year until the '23 draft.

K'Lavon Chaisson from the Jags would be an interesting trade. He hasn't lived up to his pick at all. Wonder if you could get him for cheap and try to bring out his potential. Our new DL coach would know all about him.

I agree, and those picks will absolutely be burning a hole in their pocket over the next month

I'm not so sure about that. I think Veach has switched his approach. He has to know that his team doesn't really have that many players under contract moving forward and the time of loading up on vets to make a push are over.

Zig while everyone else zags.

I think we're in the midst of a full-on youth movement. Maybe they sing Jones or Key over the next couple of days but don't expect many moves before the draft at this point.

I thnk Shenault is probably a Chiefs sooner or later.

This. I don't blame Tyreek in the slightest. He had made $40 million prior to this contract with Miami. With the off-field junk he dealt with I'm guessing he didn't make tons off the field like other top flight WR may. This was his ONLY opportunity to truly cash in. In one more year he may not get this good of an offer.

Good for him. He probably made $5 mil more per year and saving 1.5 mil in state taxes. For a guy that's only made $40 mil in his life, $6.5 mil a year extra means something.

We have multiple 3rd and 4th rd picks the next 2 years.

And no I wouldn’t take Ojabo without trading up even if we stay. I’ve tried taking myself into it but can’t. An Achilles is significantly more risk than ACL especially for a pass rusher.

I don’t even know if I would consider him at 50 tbh. An achillles is a brutal injury. Absolutely brutal

I was thinking the need for the $ to pay all these pick explains the Thuney restructure, but in the end, it all depends on whether the weaker franchises get into panic-mode over QB (Pickett, Corral?) or let Ojabo slide. This is a year to have about 4 backup scenarios and be more flexible than a Senator

It's not the 6-1" part. It's the 187 lbs. His build is slight, not much muscle tone. Stronger DB's will be able to re-route him and press him.

I'm not saying he can't have a successful career, but if we're talking #1 guy, i'd like that guy to be a bit heavier and stronger at both the LoS and at the point of attack.

Worked out great for the Titans with Jeffrey Simmons.

We’ll never be in a position to draft a top 15 talent at a valuable position like EDGE.

It’s a little risky, but no risk it no biscuit. I’m not scared to take a big swing.

Simmons tore his ACL. That’s not a ruptured Achilles

Not really anymore. Cam Akers came back in the same season he tore his Achilles

DeVonta Smith is 6' and 170lbs. He caught 64 balls for almost 1000 yards with a shit QB.

You're worrying about nothing.

Thought it was an Achilles. My fault.

I don’t get this idea that an Achilles is THAT much worse.

We just watched Cam Akers come back in 6 months. Eric Fisher is an OL in his 30s and came back very quickly. Was he himself? No, because he’s in his 30s and is an OL. How fast did DJ come back from an Achilles in his 30s?

It’s very likely that Ojabo will be back to 100% considering his age and the fact that he’s a freak athlete.

There’s a risk, but not at all what you’re making it out to be.

If he's there at 29, I'd take him. Then take whoever else at 30. You aren't getting a chance at a guy like that anywhere we'll likely be picking in the future.

Who? Ojabo?

Cam Akers postseason stats:

67 attempts in 4 games
2.6 YPC

He was not good.

He looked exactly the same. They were playing against teams like the Bucs with a great run defense.

If you actually watched him, he looked healthy and himself.

Smoke that RoJo is signed

I would definitely take Ojabo at 29. I don't think he'll make it to our pick though.

One, I hope this is wrong.

Two, Kareem Hunt comparison?

Good Christ.



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Hope so.

It all comes down to the money. I think Jones got a bad rap in Tampa Bay because Arians is a dick and Brady hates you as soon as you drop a pass.

He won't be the lead guy here and as long as the money isn't huge....I'm fine with bringing him in.

I'd take Ojabo at 29 but I'm not inclined to trade up for him. I would rather have Johnson or Karlaftis.

I personally like RoJo. He’s a solid back, and still relatively young with not a whole lot of wear and tear.

Solid rotational piece. As long as they don't pay him big money (and they won't) it isn't a bad deal.

People are just being too emotional about all of this.

That's never happened before, so you can't expect a 6 month recovery to be the norm. Plus, we only got to see Akers for like 4 games or so. We have no idea how he'd deal with an entire brutal NFL season.

The only bonus to taking Ojabo in the 1st is you'd get his 5th yr option but still why not just trade up for a Karalafus(sp) instead? Not hurt with a serious injury. At 50 I can see Ojabo being a thing, but no earlier.

Yea, I don’t think anybody is advocating trading up for him, but for a team in desperate need of juice on the edge, he’s a big swing I’d be willing to take.

He’s a potentially elite pass rusher. Those guys are hard to find. Yea, we can settle for a good one no problem, but I’d rather do that at pick 50 or 62 to hedge our bets.

It’s not like we don’t need 2.

Karlaftis reminds me of Jadaveon Clowney. He's probably never going to explode for 15 sacks a season but he's also a guy that could constantly get 8-10 a year while providing a presence against the run. A true 3-down DE.

Nothing emotional here, just don't believe in using FA to acquire that position - especially a guy that really hasn't done anything in this league and has ball security issues. We don't even use the RB's we have correctly.

You can get the same or better performance out of a late round pick.

I have no problem with trading up for Karlaftis as an alternative, but a trade up for a high floor guy isn’t as good of a roll of the dice as staying pat at 29 and taking a top 15 talent.

Why use a late round pick on a RB if you don't have to? Getting a cheap vet like this just gives them even more flexibility with those picks.

The problem is that we don't have really EITHER right now - high ceiling or high floor guys.

After seeing Nick Bolton and Creed Humphrey play last year, I'm all in on getting high floor good football players.

The problem is, I think the Chiefs prefer to use their 1-4 round picks on more premium positions and/or trade ups.

If we had a 5th or 6th, that would be the sweet spot for a RB.

I don’t think they want to take one in rounds 1-4, and the 7th is just too late for a RB2.

I guess they could maybe package those 7ths to move up, but who knows if anybody would want that.

I would love Karlaftis - reminds me a bit of Hendrickson

If Nate Taylor is to be believed.....then this offense is going to start using their RBs more out of the backfield with Hill gone.

7th round picks aren't going to add to their flexibility. They could package all four together and MAYBE get to the 6th.

Not to mention, they don't even need a RB with Darrel coming back.

In a perfect world we trade up and get him as there's no way he makes it to 29. Then, Ojabo drops to us at 50. We then have our steady presence along with a high upside athlete at DE.

Bring back Ingram and there's your edge for this year. Should be a ton of money available next season for FA chasing if we trade Jones-which we should. Maybe sign Daron Payne since the former WFT has a ton of money tied up in their Dline.

Good, that's what we were led to believe they would do with CEH.

They use Williams more out of the backfield than him.

The three we have now are more than sufficient provided Andy starts using them correctly.

A 6th round RB isn't even going to make it off the practice squad.

If you want a RB that could contribute to the level Jones will, you're talking about a 3rd or 4th most likely.

Ronald Jones, Meh.

I was just thinking they can probably use them to grab someone in the 6th, but no earlier.

He's a RB. Outside of 4 or 5 guys, they're all "meh" to some degree.

Nobody has confirmed he's coming back though.

I'm with you 100% until the bold.

One, IMO the 7th isn't too late for any RB. That's the one position you can semi-regularly find studs very late and UDFA.

Two, it looks like Darrel is coming back, so I don't know where this need is for a RB2.

Just because you can find a good late round RB every year doesn’t mean you will.

It’s not like there’s 20. There’s usually a guy or two in any draft at the most. There isn’t an abundance of starting caliber backs available in the 7th or anything.

I mean, I'd love to know what that tweet meant if it didn't mean he was coming back.

Let me rephrase that, it’s not at all a sure thing, and it’s still kind of hard to find.

Yea, you might get lucky and be the team that finds this years Phillip Lindsay, but there aren’t a ton of those every year. Maybe 1 or 2, and there’s a reason they’re still available. Nobody sees it coming.

Yeah but what else can you do with your 7ths besides using them on flyers? RB is very expandable. There's a decent chance they could find someone who can do work. CEH is okay, but they can find someone to compliment him you'd think.

I see no reason to bring back Williams.

Maybe he was just reminiscing. My guess is, if they're bringing in Jones for a visit, then they aren't bring back Williams.

Or he could come back after the draft and Gore goes back to the PS.

I’m really all about Josh Gordon being a factor this year.

Literally had a 1000 yard season..

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Chiefs now at 23 mil in cap space before Bush, Reiter, Lee and MVS signing

It's precisely because RB is expendable that you don't use many picks on them.

A 6th or 7th rounder could be the next Fenton, a position which is much much more expensive than a RB.

Part of me thinks were after high motor 3 down guys. Like Tamba Hali vs Dee Ford.

Exactly. Darrell isn't a star but he's a solid backup RB.

DB was the other position I would draft there possibly. But, I also have them drafting some guys in the 3/4 rounds, hopefully at least 2 and maybe signing Gilmore too.

I know he's fallen off but he has been injured the past 2 years. Depending on the deal of course, he'd be a fine add. Maybe giving us the same production Charles Woodson gave Green Bay back in the day. He's smart, don't see why he couldn't move to safety.

We can talk about WRs in the 1st round....but I would not be surprised to see DE and CB be the first round picks. Both positions that get paid out the ass on their 2nd contracts.

I'm still holding out hope for Wyatt in the first though.

I’d love it if we draft a whole new DL, a CB and a S or LB and 2 WRs in our first 8 picks.

Nothing would surprise me with how aggressive Veach can be. If he felt like this draft has some good pass rushers i wouldnt be surprised if he went Edge at 29 and 30. But on the flip i could see two WR too. He's not a conventional GM.

Daniel Sorenson to Saints

YES!!!!!!!

Oh thank god. Thank you Dan though for big plays in our SB run

tf for real? lol i assumed this was a retirement year.

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Yes sir.

Link?? Please..

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Kerry Hyder, DL to SF for 1.5 million .

Damn it, there is a guy we could have grabbed almost free plus no comp pick calculated.

He's 30 and didn't do dick last year in Seattle.

He's a good rotation player. Obviously at that price he's not special. Just good depth like Bush signing which I liked.

The Chiefs are signing former Panthers LB Jermaine Carter, Jr., per source. He started all 17 games for Carolina last season