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Mizzou comes to SEC. Brings gay football along with. Interesting to see how the rest of the schools will react going forward given that region's political beliefs. I would say: "at least they know who you are now"

In 50 years Mizzou will be making videos about it as if Sam was Rosa Parks. Pinkel will be the quiet leader who keeps a clubhouse of do-gooders on the path to winning the division title and advancing gay rights along the way.

What is "gay football?"

Tomorrow is the softball showdown I believe ROFL

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10633803)

Tomorrow is the softball showdown I believe ROFL

This will be fun, I bet there will be a full house to see a hopeful chicken hawk beating.

Tomorrow all the jayhawk softball fans will come out in droves

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Originally Posted by kchero (Post 10634077)

This will be fun, I bet there will be a full house to see a hopeful chicken hawk beating.

Eh. Our top pitcher is out. I wouldn't count on it.

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 10634357)

Eh. Our top pitcher is out. I wouldn't count on it.

This. Mizzou is without their best weapon.

Kansas and Missouri are playing just like any non-conference teams would play in college athletics.

Why is this even an issue?

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10634557)

Kansas and Missouri are playing just like any non-conference teams would play in college athletics.

Why is this even an issue?

Because you're a reerun, that's why.

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10634557)

Kansas and Missouri are playing just like any non-conference teams would play in college athletics.

Why is this even an issue?

Dumbshit poster posts dumbshit.

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10634557)

Kansas and Missouri are playing just like any non-conference teams would play in college athletics.

Why is this even an issue?

It's not to us, but to Mizzou: Kansas will always be their everything.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10634843)

It's not to us, but to Mizzou: Kansas will always be their everything.

Well said PB. Simple yet poetic.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10634843)

It's not to us, but to Mizzou: Kansas will always be their everything.

Says the dude who spends Saturday evenings browsing Tiger board.

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10634389)

This. Mizzou is without their best weapon.

This sucks.

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10635116)

http://i.imgur.com/ehWWN2j.jpg

Heh

Nobody cares

But

Mizzou won

Meeting head-to-head for the first time since 2012, when Jayhawks athletics vowed not to schedule their archrivals after the Tigers left the Big 12 for the Southeastern Conference, MU roughed up KU 6-1 on Saturday and, in the process, earned a spot in Sunday’s NCAA Regional final.

Before a near-capacity crowd, and a feisty one at that, the Tigers, 43-16, blasted a pair of two-run home runs and never trailed in the Border War revival.

Freshman Kirsten Mack’s two-run home run to left got the Tigers on the board in the second inning.

One pitch earlier, she rocked a deep drive down the left-field line, which was ruled foul, but she straightened up the 12th pitch of the at-bat for a 2-0 lead.

Junior Angela Randazzo added an RBI single an inning later then crushed a two-run homer in the fifth that hugged the left-field line, pumping MU’s lead to 5-0.

Kansas got on the board in the bottom of the inning on sophomore Chaley Brickey’s RBI fielder’s choice.

However, Missouri answered with an insurance run on Corrin Genovese’s grounder to shortstop in the seventh inning, which helped ensure Brickey’s two-run home run in the bottom of the inning was merely cosmetic.

Missouri has now won eight straight against Kansas and 13 of the last 14 meetings, including a three-game sweep in the last series as Big 12 foes during which the Tigers outscored the Jayhawks 24-0.

Freshman lefthander Casey Stangel rebounded from a five-run seventh inning Friday against Bradley, twirling a complete-game gem despite failing to record a strikeout. She scattered seven hits and two walks with one strikeout.

Stangel wriggled out of a bases-loaded jam in the first and induced an inning-ending double play with the bases loaded in the sixth. She also stranded two runners in the third inning.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/17...#storylink=cpy

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10635290)

Nobody cares

But

Mizzou won

Was Kansas eliminated from winning the National Championship?

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10635378)

Was Kansas eliminated from winning the National Championship?

I do not believe so, I think they do double elimination. They play the winner of the two teams that were beat by KU MU I think

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/softball/d1

Strange bracket, kind of hard to follow

They could play again if kansas wins

Mizzou's best player (Finucane) has been shut down for the next 10 days (or so). It sucks, but they won without her today. Don't know that they can expect to continue to win without her, though.

VAHE GREGORIAN
It’s time for the Missouri Tigers and Kansas Jayhawks to make up, renew Border War rivalry
May 17
BY VAHE GREGORIAN
The Kansas City Star

COLUMBIA — Tom Mendenhall lives on a road called Quantrill’s Pass, a designation for which his family evidently went to some extremes to get the naming rights.

“We built a subdivision and named the street,” said Mendenhall, who last year ventured to Lawrence to commemorate the 150th anniversary of Quantrill’s savage attack.

On Saturday at University Field, he was the fellow walking around with a “BURN-KU” license plate hanging from his neck and toting a stick from which dangled a red-and-blue-painted rubber chicken in a noose — a similar ensemble to the one he once took into Allen Fieldhouse.

This is all in fun, the 66-year-old Mendenhall wants you to know. Besides, he figures it all started with the Jayhawker militia running “this area for a while,” like his great-grandmother told him they did.

“Things happened,” he said.

Of infinitely less consequence, and for far lesser reasons now, the flagship educational institutions of the states remain embroiled in a blame-game that has put a freeze on the oldest athletic rivalry west of the Mississippi.

For one shimmering moment on Saturday, in front of a crackling crowd of 1,392 dotted with KU visitors, the Missouri-Kansas athletic rivalry was rekindled in an NCAA regional softball game won 6-3 by the Tigers.

Since virtually nothing is indisputable when it comes to KU-MU, the game either was the 897th or 913th time the schools had met head-to-head in football, men’s and women’s basketball, baseball or softball. The discrepancy is in baseball, which each school counts differently.

And that doesn’t account for the dozens, if not hundreds, more times they met head-to-head or in tournament formats since 1891 in a relationship that morphed together through Missouri Valley to Big Six, Seven, Eight and 12 … included continuous contests in at least one sport through two World Wars and the 1918 Influenza Pandemic … and adapted to navigate brawls and forfeits and bubbling bad blood.

Some of that spirit was encapsulated last Sunday in the words of MU shortstop Corrin Genovese, who upon seeing the brackets announced playfully told reporters:

“I know (Kansas is) kind of scared to play us in football and basketball, so it’s good that we can keep tradition going and hopefully let them know who’s boss and who will always be better in the rivalry.”

But for all the rivalry has meant and endured and still should be, it has been stalemated by realignment.

Seconds after the victory was secured Saturday, MU athletic director Mike Alden asked, “Why would you not want to play that? When you think about that type of competition and the healthy rivalry, why wouldn’t you want to play?”

The answer from KU remains unchanged and essentially goes like this:

Missouri betrayed the Big 12 and Kansas by leaving the imperiled conference to join the Southeastern Conference.

Therefore, everything is different and KU can’t play because Mizzou needs KU more than KU needs it, especially in Kansas City.

And then Kansas fans who are angry say, besides, we don’t care anymore (though in the process protest too much).

But there’s so much that doesn’t make sense about this stance, really.

Wouldn’t KU have embraced the harbor of the Big Ten or even the SEC if it had the chance as the Big 12 was teetering, for instance?

And blame Mizzou for leaving, sure, but then why does KU basketball play Colorado, which actually was a key part of destabilizing the Big 12 when it left a year earlier?

And why does KU schedule Nebraska in softball when the Cornhuskers were the most pivotal chess piece of all in the beginning of the chaos in the Big 12 when they opted to go to the Big Ten?

But forget about all that, and about Texas A&M starting the movement all over again after all had seemed to settle down, and let’s just put the yoke on Mizzou.

Great. Own it, MU.

So … now what?

What’s the point of being “right” if something substantial is lost by it?

As much as we’ve made it all about money and leveraging and like this is all some kind of Game of Thrones, doesn’t the appeal of college sports still come down to fun and entertainment and traditions?

And protest if you must, it’s an absolute certainty that a restart of Kansas-Mizzou football or men’s basketball (among other sports) would be scalding hot tickets no matter how good or bad any of those teams are or where they’d play.

That’s why KU first baseman Maddie Stein said after the game: “It’s definitely fun reliving the rivalry. … It’s always fun when there’s more than just playing for yourselves or your school.”

That’s why Kansas fan Travis Jones, 35, woke up Saturday in Gardner, Kan., saw that KU and MU had won Friday and would be meeting for the first time head-to-head since Missouri left for the SEC in 2012 and told his wife, “Border Showdown. Let’s go over.”

So they loaded their three daughters and two of their friends in the car and made the trip to Columbia, KU flags flapping from their car.

“I think it’s an awesome rivalry,” he said. “Good rivalries are healthy for college sports.”

He misses it but understands both sides, he said, adding, “I don’t know if anybody’s going to budge at this point.”

For that to happen, Mizzou probably needs to do more to extend the olive branch to Kansas, because it’s not publicly clear just how frequently or sincerely those gestures have been made.

But there’s little doubt this is in the hands of Kansas. And there’s no indication of anything thawing on its end.

Maybe it will help some that KU men’s basketball coach Bill Self thinks enough of MU’s new coach, Kim Anderson, to have offered congratulations. Self also has spoken with Anderson about assistant coach possibilities.

Self represents the athletic department, of course, but his influence is such that if he wanted to play … they’d play.

As dug-in as he’s been, though, that still seems far-fetched.

But just maybe Saturday will help, either by priming the pump or as a testing ground of sorts.

“That would be so cool if we could be the ones who kind of jumpstart things,” MU coach Ehren Earleywine said, later adding, “I think it’s time to move on. This is fan-driven, these college sports. Let the fans have what they want, you know?”

To reach Vahe Gregorian, call 816-234-4366 or send email to vgregorian@kcstar.com. Follow him at Twitter.com/vgregorian.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/17...#storylink=cpy

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10635378)

Was Kansas eliminated from winning the National Championship?

Yes, by Nebraska

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10635386)

Mizzou's best player (Finucane) has been shut down for the next 10 days (or so). It sucks, but they won without her today. Don't know that they can expect to continue to win without her, though.

If you actually know such things, you might be the worlds biggest dork.

Kansas can take an olive branch and then do an act with it that's not acceptable to discuss in polite conversation.

Missouri has just as much to gain in scheduling them as they do in scheduling Missouri State: absolutely nothing.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10636042)

If you actually know such things, you might be the worlds biggest dork.

I read PowerMizzou.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10634843)

It's not to us, but to Mizzou: Kansas will always be their everything.

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Did it mean more because it was Kansas? Depends on who you ask.

"We're freshmen, so it was just another game for me," Mack said. "Nothing more, nothing less other than it was a regional game and we're trying to stay in the winner's bracket and get to a championship game and go try and win a regional."

 "Kansas had nothing to do with it," Randazzo said. "Another win under our belts."

:thumb:

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10636042)

If you actually know such things, you might be the worlds biggest dork.

Just like living on a rival's message board?

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10636046)

I read PowerMizzou.

If that site reports such things, then they are the worlds biggest dorks.

They will play again

Not in football most likely but in bball during the tourney some day when one of the ncaa guys trolls everyone by forcing the game.

That also assumes Mizzou makes the tourney some year ROFL

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10636017)

Some of that spirit was encapsulated last Sunday in the words of MU shortstop Corrin Genovese, who upon seeing the brackets announced playfully told reporters:

“I know (Kansas is) kind of scared to play us in football and basketball"

http://replygif.net/i/926.gif

That’s why KU first baseman Maddie Stein said after the game: “It’s definitely fun reliving the rivalry. … It’s always fun when there’s more than just playing for yourselves or your school.”

http://i.imgur.com/Sf82rzSl.jpg

sup baby

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10636391)

who is that?

Someone should let them know the broncos won't be winning the Super Bowl LMAO

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10636040)

Yes, by Nebraska

Thats not surprising Nebraska is superior in sports.

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10636397)

who is that?

Someone should let them know the broncos won't be winning the Super Bowl LMAO

The girl who called Kansas "scared".

ROFL

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10636457)

Thats not surprising Nebraska is superior in sports.

They just whooped Mizzou 11-4

Winner take all at 3pm

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Originally Posted by VAHE GREGORIAN (Post 10636017)

"As much as we’ve made it all about money and leveraging and like this is all some kind of Game of Thrones, doesn’t the appeal of college sports still come down to fun and entertainment and traditions?"

Gregorian doesn't seem to be remotely aware that Deaton & Alden were essentially forced to bail by the state legislature.

Mo. budget cuts played role in Mizzou switch to SEC

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
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University of Missouri-Columbia Chancellor Brady Deaton says state funding cuts played a role in his decision to move the school from the Big 12 to the Southeastern Conference.

Deaton said Monday that his concern about instability and uncertainty of the Big 12 was enhanced because state funding for higher education has been cut several times in recent years, and still is not at the level originally budgeted in 2001.

Deaton made his comments while speaking to the annual Missouri-Kansas Associated Press Publishers and Editors Meeting.

He says the switch to the SEC was not all about money. But Deaton says the SEC offered a more stable and financially lucrative future, especially as the university tries to get its athletics department to be self-sufficient financially.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10637105)

Gregorian doesn't seem to be remotely aware that Deaton & Alden were essentially forced to bail by the state legislature.

Mo. budget cuts played role in Mizzou switch to SEC

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
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University of Missouri-Columbia Chancellor Brady Deaton says state funding cuts played a role in his decision to move the school from the Big 12 to the Southeastern Conference.

Deaton said Monday that his concern about instability and uncertainty of the Big 12 was enhanced because state funding for higher education has been cut several times in recent years, and still is not at the level originally budgeted in 2001.

Deaton made his comments while speaking to the annual Missouri-Kansas Associated Press Publishers and Editors Meeting.

He says the switch to the SEC was not all about money. But Deaton says the SEC offered a more stable and financially lucrative future, especially as the university tries to get its athletics department to be self-sufficient financially.

Absolutely true.

Exactly.

How is that new information Prison Bitch?

Mizzou thought that the B12 was going to implode, and if they didn't act they'd be holding their dicks hoping for an invite into the Mountain West.

It's not new information and that is the whole point: Gregorian totally missed it. When he says finances should take a backseat to competition/rivalries he is really out of the loop.

The rivalry already lost its luster

Even if they do play I don't think people will give a **** the same way they used to :shrug:

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10637292)

The rivalry already lost its luster

Even if they do play I don't think people will give a **** the same way they used to :shrug:

Completely agree. I've been saying this all along. Rivalries simply don't matter when it isn't a conference foe.

The big conferences are already encountering this problem with teams that are going to rarely end up facing one another in sports like football where there aren't that many games played year in and year out.

Who would have thought after all this that schools like Kansas, KSU and Oklahoma would be sitting in the best possible position for their fans?

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10637970)

Rivalries simply don't matter when it isn't a conference foe.

How many times, and in how many ways, does this need to be proven incorrect to you, for you to quit thinking it's true?

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 10637979)

How many times, and in how many ways, does this need to be proven incorrect to you, for you to quit thinking it's true?

He knows it is not true, but he is not honest enough to admit it.

Did people outside of Johnson county even care about the MU/KU rivalry?

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10638185)

Did people outside of Johnson county even care about the MU/KU rivalry?

Great rivalries are built in conference when both teams play at extremely high levels.

NYY/BOS, Duke/UNC, Oklahoma/Texas, UCLA/USC, Giants/Dodgers, Packers/Bears...

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10638225)

Great rivalries are built in conference when both teams play at extremely high levels.

NYY/BOS, Duke/UNC, Oklahoma/Texas, UCLA/USC, Giants/Dodgers, Packers/Bears...

Too bad OU/Texas was a rivalry for what---60 or 70 years before they were in the same conference?

Rivalry fail.

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10638225)

Great rivalries are built in conference when both teams play at extremely high levels.

NYY/BOS, Duke/UNC, Oklahoma/Texas, UCLA/USC, Giants/Dodgers, Packers/Bears...

Wasn't USC and Notre Dame a huge rivalry for a long time and a big deal..they are non conference

Gregorian: Schools shouldn't sacrifice rivalries for money.

Deaton: We had to sacrifice rivalries for money.

Ipso Facto: Gregorian blames Mizzou for ending the rivalry.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10638349)

Gregorian: Schools shouldn't sacrifice rivalries for money.

Deaton: We had to sacrifice rivalries for money.

Ipso Facto: Gregorian blames Mizzou for ending the rivalry.

This is like bad lip reading without the lip part.

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 10638255)

Too bad OU/Texas was a rivalry for what---60 or 70 years before they were in the same conference?

Rivalry fail.

It was. However many argue that Oklahoma / Nebraska was far more important. Teams in the same conference and two teams that accomplished much more than Texas ever had.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10638349)

Gregorian: Schools shouldn't sacrifice rivalries for money.

Deaton: We had to sacrifice rivalries for money.

Ipso Facto: Gregorian blames Mizzou for ending the rivalry.

Does make sense.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10638349)

Gregorian: Schools shouldn't sacrifice rivalries for money.

Deaton: We had to sacrifice rivalries for money.

Ipso Facto: Gregorian blames Mizzou for ending the rivalry.

Mizzou did not sacrifice rivalries for money, the sacrificed being in the Big XII.

KU is the hypocrite here...as their scheduling of both NU and CU clearly shows--considering that those two schools did more to undermine the Big XII than Mizzou ever did.

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 10638826)

Gregorian blamed KU the entire article, but then curiously brought up the money aspect which falls on only one side of the equation. It was a very, very strange moment of confusion.

Doug Karleskint named head coach for Mules Basketball
The University of Central Missouri announced today that Doug Karleskint has been hired as the 24th head men's basketball coach in the 109-year history of the program.

UCM Athletics Director Jerry Hughes will officially introduce him at a press conference in the UCM Multipurpose Building Alumni Room on Tuesday, May 20 at 11:00 a.m.

"Doug has been a consistent winner everywhere he has been and is the perfect fit for our program and institution," Hughes said. "His success as a head coach and an assistant combined with his personality, work ethic, and class should have Mules fans excited for the future."

Karleskint has compiled a 90-34 record in four seasons as the head coach at Arkansas Tech. His Wonder Boy teams captured four straight conference championships and made four appearances in the NCAA Tournament, including a Sweet 16 appearance in 2012.

He coached 11 all-conference performers during his tenure at Arkansas Tech, including one Great American Conference (GAC) Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Newcomer of the Year and an All-American.

Prior to his time as head coach, Karleskint served as the top assistant for the Wonder Boys in 2009-10 when the team went 30-2, won the Gulf South Conference title and finished the regular season ranked No. 1 in the nation.

Before ATU, he served two seasons as an assistant coach at Division I Stephen F. Austin. The Lumberjacks posted a 50-14 record in those two years and won two Southland Conference Regular Season Crowns. They advanced to the NIT in 2007-08 and the NCAA Tournament in 2008-09 after winning the Southland Conference tournament title.

Karleskint was a graduate assistant at Northwest Missouri State from 2005-07 and helped the Bearcats to a 46-17 record, an MIAA championship and two NCAA Tournament appearances.

The Fort Scott, Kan. native earned his bachelor's degree from Mid-America Nazarene University in 2003. He and his wife, Kyla, have two sons, Jadin and Jackson.

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10638435)

It was. However many argue that Oklahoma / Nebraska was far more important. Teams in the same conference and two teams that accomplished much more than Texas ever had.

Nebraska fans said that losing the OU rivalry made the Big 12 less appealing. Of course, they never "lost" the rivalry since it was still every other year. Not as good as before but not "lost" either.

But hey, now that powers Rutgers & Maryland have joined the BIG, the Mighty Cornf'ers get to lock horns with this titanic collection of division mates:

West — Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10639442)

West — Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin.

Lol, I can't believe these schools left for that crap.

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10639729)

Lol, I can't believe these schools left for that crap.

That's what the Big East says about TCU and WV too.

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10639751)

That's what the Big East says about TCU and WV too.

ROFL

WV is terrible and TCU doesn't even deserve a mention

What a desperation move to add those two

Should have went after louisville

And yet WVU has won 3 BCS Bowl games to Mizzou's zero.

:doh!:

Funny thing is, the same could be said about MU football this year as the SEC East outside of them was a step down from the Big 12.

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10638185)

Did people outside of Johnson county even care about the MU/KU rivalry?

No.

Iowa State picked up a few nice basketball players yesterday.

Texas A&M record in the BCS (0-1). Overall bowl record (16-19)
Final Four Appearances: 0

Missouri record in BCS (N/A). Overall bowl record (14-16)
Final Four Appearances: 0

or

West Virginia in BCS (3-0). Overall bowl record (14-18)
Final Four Appearances: 2

TCU in BCS (1-1). Overall bowl record (13-15-1)
Final Four Appearances: 0

The numbers speak for themselves.

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10640193)

No.

Nobody cares about ISU in anything.

Ever.

GTFO

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 10640341)

Nobody cares about ISU in anything.

Ever.

GTFO

No.

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 10640341)

Nobody cares about ISU in anything.

Ever.

GTFO

It's never difficult to find a crying phognetter.

"Rusty's in our thread. BANHAMMER!!"

I swear with all the weeping Jayhawk vulvas that have matriculated here, we should change the name to Speculum Planet.

I would like to point out the notable exceptions. Prison Bitch, for all his needling of others never cries about banning or censoring other posters. I always read his posts in a Thurston Howell III voice and imagine him swatting patteau or cosmo with a clean white glove across the cheek.
Take a lesson.

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10640870)

I would like to point out the notable exceptions. Prison Bitch, for all his needling of others never cries about banning or censoring other posters. I always read his posts in a Thurston Howell III voice and imagine him swatting patteau or cosmo with a clean white glove across the cheek.
Take a lesson.

Censorship sucks. Fortunately it's difficult now with all the new media outlets. I like reading new opinions, or in the case of this thread, laughing at many of them.

OL Scott Frantz (lawrence, ks) had this to say about Mizzou:

"Missouri finished fifth in the nation," he said of the Tigers. "Obviously, that's huge. They are in the SEC, the best college conference in America. One week, you'll be down in Florida, then Alabama, and Georgia. You are going to some pretty cool places and playing against the best. That's the biggest thing for me."

Much like his other top schools, Frantz noted his relationship with the coaching staff at MU. Their record of getting players to the NFL has caught his eye.

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10641817)

Talk about poaching

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10640870)

It's a shit-talk thread, dickweed. Never once did I say ban him.. Put away your jump to conclusions mat.

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 10642541)

It's a shit-talk thread, dickweed. Never once did I say ban him.. Put away your jump to conclusions mat.

Oh, look, a Cardinals/Jayhawks fan.

Are you enjoying watching your Blackhawks in the NHL finals?

What about your Heat, think they'll pull it out against Indiana?

And wow, what a draft for your Seahawks...

KU fans...here's a great read about your football team. You know the sport that is played in a stadium outside.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...-four/8915245/

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Countdown | No. 112: Kansas

Paul Myerberg, USA TODAY Sports 11:56 a.m. EDT May 10, 2014

USA TODAY Sports' Paul Myerberg counts down to the start of the college football season team by team from No. 128 to No. 1.

Teams with good leadership, solid coaching and a core identity don't just win once but twice, with each successive win building on the last until winning is part of the program's DNA: Winning begets winning until winning isn't merely a byproduct of leadership, coaching and identity but a weekly expectation.

Kansas has none of these things; Kansas is not one of these teams. The Jayhawks won three games in 2013, in itself cause for slight celebration: South Dakota State in the opener, Louisiana Tech in September and West Virginia – yes, a conference win – in November. How KU followed up each win speaks volumes about the program's flimsiness.

kansas1
The win against SDSU was followed by a loss to Rice despite the Owls' intense protests – Rice seemed to try to give it away but couldn't, basically. Louisiana Tech? Given the confidence-boosting benefits of a victory and an extra week to prepare, KU allowed Texas Tech's offense to spend so much time on the field – 100 plays, 404 yards passing, 54 points – it should file property taxes on Memorial Stadium.

And then there's the follow-up to West Virginia, when the Jayhawks made two-win Iowa State look like Florida State. The Cyclones racked up 34 points, matching the team's combined output from its previous three Big 12 games, and averaged 7.97 yards per play, the Cyclones' best single-game average since at least 2006. KU gained just 279 yards of offense, the Cyclones' best performance in league play since 2010 – also against Kansas – and earned 100 yards on 38 plays in the second half, giving in total an amateur-hour impersonation of a football program in the Big 12.

SPRING FOOTBALL: Big 12

More of the same, sighs an exhausted and exasperated fan base. Predictability is welcome only when the results are favorable: Kansas has become neither better nor worse but merely there, like a gnarled tree stump, and like most ingrained impediments seems impossible to extricate from its current position. Such is life in Lawrence, where hope springs temporarily, if at all, as the five-year plan enters into a midlife crisis.

LAST YEAR'S PREDICTION:

But overall, it's hard to gauge the readiness of KU's roster – due to the huge number of JUCO transfers and new additions. Even if improved athletically, can KU expect these new faces, on defense in particular, to run with and slow down the many bowl teams in the Big 12? I'm a little skeptical. Just one step forward won't be enough; to make a run at bowl play, KU needs to make huge strides on both sides of the ball. When it comes to 2013, winning three or four games – KU has six wins since 2010 – would mark a productive year two while laying additional groundwork for 2014.

2013 RECAP:

In a nutshell: Let's remember that Kansas had won only six games during the previous three seasons, so the big-picture view of last year's three-win finish is a positive one. Let's also keep this in mind: In 2012, Charlie Weis' first season, KU lost five games by a single possession; last season's eight Big 12 losses came by an average of 27.6 points. The Jayhawks gained two wins but lost a sense of competitiveness, if that's possible. The primary culprit was an offense that averaged 4.05 yards per play and 275.6 yards per game during league play, totals that ranked 14% and 21.1% behind its next-worst Big 12 brethren, respectively. Quarterback play? Don't ask. The Jayhawks have now tossed 16 touchdowns against 25 interceptions during Weis' two years, pinpricking holes in an attack that must control possession to hold any advantage.

High point: Beating West Virginia in November. As you may have heard, KU's previous conference win came against an opponent no longer in the conference.

Low point: Iowa State. An unmitigated disaster. Then there's the finale, when Kansas seemed to start hyperventilating merely at the sight of Bill Snyder's Wildcats.

COUNTDOWN: Complete list (so far)

Tidbit: Kansas has lost 46 games during the past five seasons, the most of any team in a Big Five conference. Those challenging KU's reign: Washington State and Colorado have 45 losses, Indiana has 41, Virginia and Kentucky have 40, Purdue and Illinois have 39, and California, Maryland and Wake Forest have 38.

Tidbit (defense edition): September's 13-10 win against Louisiana Tech was noteworthy not only for the victory itself but for how it came about: KU hadn't won a game when scoring less than 14 points since a 13-7 victory against South Florida on Sept. 23, 2006. The Jayhawks' last conference win when scoring fewer than two touchdowns came against then-and-forever rival Missouri.

PLAYERS TO WATCH:

Offense: Let's quickly identify the four positives behind Weis' springtime decision to name Montell Cozart the Jayhawks' new starting quarterback. For one, handing Cozart the reins gives the sophomore time to assert himself during offseason conditioning – a factor Weis admitted played heavily in his choice to not drag the competition until fall camp. Secondly, Cozart gives KU a quarterback to develop for the future, something the program has lacked since Todd Reesing. Thirdly, this grants the offense some continuity; Cozart took over for Jake Heaps – now looking like a transfer – late last season, to subpar results. Finally, Cozart does give a run-heavy offense another option on the ground, adding a dimension to a ground attack heavy on between-the-tackles schematics. All good things, if ignorant of the big picture: Cozart is the Big 12's weakest passer among starters or would-be starters, with several teams still unsettled, and the league's least-proven quarterbacking commodity. Sophomores Michael Cummings and T.J. Millweard, the latter a UCLA transfer, are available in reserve. I have a feeling one or both will play.

With James Sims gone, somebody – or somebodies – will have to carry the water in the running game. Cozart's going to help here, as noted, and could open up lanes previously clogged by defenders planted in the box. But KU still needs a new bell-cow, with that search likely settled in August, when a trio of fresh faces join the mix – with one, freshman Traevohn Wrench, arriving with advanced four-star billing. Three familiar contributors topped the two-deep this spring: Brandon Bourbon (191 yards), Darrian Miller (322 yards) and Taylor Cox know the offense, with Miller and Bourbon serving as Sims' leading reserves a year ago. One thing the running game needs is an explosive threat; that could be Wrench or true freshman Corey Avery, a burner reeled in from Dallas.

After tearing up the Mid-American Conference at Miami (Ohio), senior transfer Nick Harwell should take over as the Jayhawks' leading receiver. After spending last season on the scout team, Harwell is a welcome sight for the first-team offense: KU needs an option – any option, really – to ease Cozart's transition, and Harwell should team with senior Tony Pierson (24 receptions for 333 yards) to give KU a pair of targets worthy of starting in the Big 12. Add in tight end Jimmay Mundine (20 for 2229) and you have three humans with the potential to catch passes. Just don't ask if the Jayhawks' receivers can get open with regularity, or if Cozart can find them if they're open, or if KU has the depth needed to move the back seven away from the tackle box. One receiver who could make a difference: Rodriguez Coleman had a very good spring.

Defense: If the Jayhawks can mold, create, fabricate or otherwise manufacture a pass rush, there's no reason why this defense can't rank in the top half of the Big 12. If not perfectly composed, the rest of the defense contains enough talent, experience and probable production to make things interesting: KU is sturdy among the top grouping at linebacker and severely underrated in the secondary, making this group one to watch in the conference. Is the defense alone good enough to reverse the Jayhawks' current stride? No, not alone. But if there's one rationale for being bullish on this program's chances of taking that next step, this is it: Kansas could be a nice surprise defensively.

But so much hinges on the pass rush, and the ability to pressure the quarterback with four rushers in particular. KU knows Michael Reynolds (37 tackles, 6.5 sacks) will deliver: Reynolds can disrupt against a single blocker, making him an invaluable piece of the front seven's puzzle. One option at KU's disposal – one they'll take, I imagine – is to start Reynolds at the buck position, essentially a hybrid end-linebacker rush role, and move sophomore Ben Goodman (34 tackles, 7.5 for loss) to end, where he'll replace one of two senior starters. For now, Goodman joins seniors Keon Stowers and Tedarian Johnson in flanking nose tackle Andrew Bolton; the Jayhawks should shuffle the end rotation in August with the addition of three JUCO transfers. Getting Reynolds and Goodman on the field at once is a step in the right direction, but there's miles to go before KU's front passes muster. The JUCO transfers could help.

It gets better. I love senior Ben Heeney (88 tackles, 11.5 for loss), a get-after-every-play linebacker who would deserve heavy consideration for the league's most impressive defender if the Jayhawks' attack reaches the next level. In a word, he's irreplaceable: Heeney is a productive, aggressive and vocal leader for a defense starving for a take-charge contributor. While Jake Love (58 tackles) will start alongside Heeney, I think there'll be a big role for converted nickel back Courtney Arnick to play against the Big 12's more receiver-heavy offenses. Another two freshmen, led by Kyron Watson, arrive this summer and add depth.

Not to harp on this fact, but once again: Kansas has the sort of secondary that can put opponents in a vise if teamed with a pressure-filled pass rush. Two starters, cornerback Dexter McDonald (29 tackles) and strong safety Isaiah Johnson (73 tackles, five interceptions), are easy all-conference candidates. McDonald, for one, followed up an underrated junior season with a superb spring, making him a top-group cornerback in a Big 12 suddenly short on proven all-conference commodities. Johnson, a former wide receiver, showed receiver-like skills in playing the ball last season. The starting five is set: Johnson is joined by free safety Cassius Sendish (68 tackles) and McDonald by JaCorey Shepherd (45 tackles) and former JUCO transfer Kevin Short. The only question – and I'm unsure of the answer – is whether Short plays cornerback and Shepherd nickel back or vice versa.

Special teams: Shepherd is a serviceable return man on kickoffs, if little more, and Miller could always lend a hand if KU feels comfortable giving his legs a workout outside the running game. Coverage is bad: KU ranked 88th nationally in opposing kickoff returns a year ago. The good news is the Jayhawks shouldn't have to worry about covering many kickoffs. With as many as five kicking options on the roster, KU should be able to locate some increased consistencies on those field goals that come inside of 40 yards.

POSITION(S) TO WATCH:

Offensive line: When it comes to the play up front, a similar performance to last season would spell 10 or more losses in 2014. Improved line play clearly takes on a higher priority with the quarterback change, even if Cozart brings more athleticism to the table; despite his mobility, Cozart will need a solid bubble of protection for KU to take advantage of any options in the passing game. Consider me concerned, therefore, that KU remains unsettled at left tackle: Zach Fondal and Pat Lewandoski return, now conference-tested seniors, but history has shown neither to be a viable option on the blind side – not that one or both couldn't have a lights-on moment, fingers crossed. The anchor is left guard Ngalu Fusimalohi, a former JUCO transfer who stands as the Jayhawks' lone sure thing up front. His interior leadership will be needed as KU turns to a JUCO addition, Keyon Haughton, at center, and waits patiently until summer for another JUCO newcomer, Devon Williams, to push senior Mike Smithburg at right guard. At right tackle, junior Damon Martin has Weis' seal of approval. The positive: Weis and KU have identified a top seven or eight, a good first step, and seem committed to putting the best five on the field regardless of experience. The problem: KU's top five isn't very good.

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GAME(S) TO WATCH:

Iowa State: You could extrapolate Kansas' entire season from this one game. When combined with two winnable games in non-conference play, a victory would paint the Jayhawks as a four-win team, perhaps. A loss would spell another last-place finish in the Big 12, obviously. The Jayhawks' best shot at a conference win, from most likely to least: Iowa State, West Virginia, TCU and Texas – the latter due only to the Longhorns' transition to a new staff. A road trip to Duke will give KU a vision of what could be, should everything click during the next half-decade.

SEASON BREAKDOWN & PREDICTION:

In a nutshell: I can't be optimistic. Begin with one crucial fact: Kansas is less talented than every team in the Big 12 with the exception of Iowa State, which is either an even draw or a slight lean in the Jayhawks' direction – not that it's helped, mind you. The Jayhawks play without any confidence, partially as a result of diminishing results, and crumble against adversity, primarily as a result of a leadership gap. When held against the rest of the conference, this offense is beyond terrible; it's shockingly terrible, and comparing KU's speed, big-play ability, identity and consistency to Baylor or Oklahoma State is akin to comparing rugby to football. While better, you can't expect the Jayhawks' defense to carry this team out of the bottom of the Big 12.

As of today, the Jayhawks' quarterback situation is the worst in the league. The backfield aims to tread water without its workhorse – maybe, but probably not. The receiver corps will rely on a transfer from the MAC, a former running back with 53 career receptions, a junior coming off a torrid spring and a crop of unknowns – and, admittedly, a pretty steady tight end. The offensive line should be cordoned off with yellow tape. In second-grade mathematical terms, imagine ranking each offensive unit from 1-10 in the Big 12 and then tabulating the total. What does KU pull? Thirty-six?

And I still think the defense is going to be fine – and if the pass rush flourishes, better than fine. KU has two cogs in the front seven who can get to the quarterback with some degree of regularity. Heeney deserves our eyeballs in the Big 12. I like how KU has transitioned a few players away from nickel back in an effort to be more multiple in coverage. The secondary might be the most underrated positional grouping in the Big 12. If only this defense could be teamed with an average offense – then KU might be onto something. Synchronicity eludes the Jayhawks.

Here's what's funny: KU hired Weis three years ago, and 24 games later the defense is FBS and the offense is FCS. You'd call it pitiful, but it's Kansas, Jake. Try as they might, the Jayhawks simply aren't built to do more than show up and lose.

Dream season: Kansas goes 3-0 in out-of-conference play and knocks off West Virginia, TCU and Iowa State to reach the postseason.

Nightmare season: The Jayhawks fall back to 1-11, dropping 11 in a row after a season-opening win against Southeast Missouri State.

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Who's No. 111? This program is 4-6 in games played after November.

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Nah, he's not 17 years old so he's probably not a Seattle fan.

(Sorry Joe.. wherever you are)

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I can't hear you over the rustling of the pages in the USA Today sports pages in search of my new teams.

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You forgot about the World Cup, but I guess he'll have to wait to see who makes it to the final.

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Yes, Alabama....well. Not so much

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