Yep.

It can't be any worse than working with a bunch of Beakers constantly saying "Who's that, what's UCF?"

I'd be curious to see a couple of the articles if you have any links. I've done a little looking back, but I can't seem to find any of the articles saying anything. The only ones I run across are the acceptance of A&M into the SEC & the legal crap.

So Today is the Day that MU Announces they are the next member of the SEC?

They're out there, but I'm not going to dig for them. The articles all said the same thing, we're not interested in expanding at this time. It sparked this classic cartoon.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=168&f=1968&t=7777932

In the end, aTm is out.

Who knows? The ball's in Mizzou's court. I just hope to God that we don't decide to accept all the concessions and announce that we're "proud members of the Big XII".

:rolleyes:

It's probably true. The rise of additional Texas teams isn't good for anyone outside of Texas.

I've seen several MU guys say "nearly identical" and I couldn't remember the articles, was thinking you might have a link to one. Thanks for the message board cartoon though.

Don't think that setting a deadline will get you out of exit fees. We aren't kicking you out, just telling you to make a decision....you still have the choice to make (and the fees to pay).

Deadline for what? We signed a contract that puts us in the Big XII. We don't have to renegotiate.

TCU is already recruiting at a high level in TX due to their own success. Being in the B12 won't improve their recruiting in a state they are already popular with for HS kids. They have, for the past 5 yrs or so, got mainly 3 star TX kids with a few 4 stars scattered about. That isn't going to change one way or the other by coming to the B12. jmho

Sure it will. Kids would rather go to a major program, especially one that will play against the Longhorns on a regular basis and have a chance to play for a national title if they run the table.

It's hard to convince players to come play in a crappy conference. There are a ton of players in Texas, and UT gets the first choice. That won't change. Baylor, aTm, and Tech all get to play the "we're in a major conference in the state of Texas" card. That tends to trump what the WAC had to offer. Then, the rest of the schools in the Big XII got to play the "we're in a BCS conference and will play against Texas" card.

Those cards are gone now.

But since TCU is going to go back to the cellar with the increased competition, that will work itself out, right? ;)

MU still has to approve the 6yr revenue commitment. They will set a deadline on that if they haven't already.

TCU will recruit even better when their sales pitch is now that a kid can stay home and play in the Big 12, instead of play in the Big East or go to a northern Big 12 school. You are delusional if you don't think this hurts Texas recruiting for non-Texas schools.

So, you think the level of recruiting for TCU, which was #26 in team rankings by Rivals in 2011, is going to improve so much that it is going to adversely effect KSU, KU and ISU recruiting in TX? I think you are overstating an opinion that can't be backed up at this point.

San Diego State to the Big 12? Sounds like thanks but no thanks, at least for now.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...12-membership/

**** that!

Best road trip in the conference if SDSU is in.

That's a contract renegotiation. Mizzou has no obligation to accept that deal.

Don't know how you got that. But it's definitely time for you SEC wannabes to make your decision.

Or what? You can stomp your feet all you want but that doesn't do anything. Mizzou will be methodical and take its time; you guys are welcome to kick us out for no exit penalty though.

Those schools had 2 cards to play against TCU in terms of recruiting. They are in a major conference, and they play Texas. TCU now has both of those cards.

By themselves, it doesn't have a big impact, but it will if Houston, SMU, etc. do the same.

Another thing it does is increase the total number of BCS conference teams next year (would have happened even if TCU went to the Big East). That's a problem for the have nots in the Big XII if this thing goes to 4 16-team conferences.

There are only 64 spots in that scenario, and this move likely pushes someone else out because TCU just leap-frogged several schools.

Oh the irony. Who has been doing the feet stomping?

The wallflower is still setting there and nobody cares do dance.

Kind of sad really.

SDSU would beat KU in football and would compete in basketball.

You don't know how I got that? I have a contract with Sprint that expires in a year. I'm thinking about leaving for AT&T because Sprint is doing away with my current plan.

Sprint wants me to sign onto some new plan with a. Long-term agreement, but they don't get to force me to sign some new contract or pay an early termination fee if I don't like the new contract. That isn't how contracts work.

Worst case for Mizzou is that we stand pat and force the connference to honor the deal that we signed in the past that still governs our actions today. As much as you'd like to be abble to crumble up the existing agreement and force us to sign a new one or pay exit fees, that's not going to happen.

Tigerboard has been fun to watch for the last week. All the Pro-SEC posts, then the loss to KSU, now lots of Fire Pinkel, Stay in the Big 12 posts.

Nobody cares to dance? The Big XII has completely tried to reinvent itself in order to keep us. You're like the dude whose girlfriend dumped him despite his sobbing pleas for her to reconsider saying that the breakup was mutual.

Yep. All this is just smoke. You are quick. LOL.

The "demands" placed on Mizzou by Big 12 internet posters is hilarious. Mizzou will take all the time it wants, and your schools will sit there and wait because they have to. Deal with it and stop crying about it.

Pretty much this...

With KU licking the ball sack of Texas on a daily basis... All we can do is sit and wait to see what happens...

At least MU has grown a pair and is trying to tell Texas to pound sand... KU is just sitting there asking for more lube...

I bet that has been something. Kind of like this place on Haley?


Really?
From the beginning, I have questioned the wisdom and reasoning why Mizzou wanted to make the move. Why the fans felt they were a football powerhouse. Tried to understand the contempt for the big 12.

I don't think, but could be wrong, that I have posted any "please stay" posts about Mizzou, even though it is very evident that it would hurt the conference.

LMAO

Stomp my feet? The only entity stomping their collective feet are the SEC wannabes. Shaking their soft fists at Texas and telling all of us how important and coveted they are to other conferences.

I don't give a shit if MU goes. I'd just prefer that it was sooner rather than later. Mmmkay, li'l DeArmond?

At this point, if we could guarantee WVU, i'd kick Mizzou out.

Better fan base, better football and better basketball? Yes please.

Agree 100%

How are Mizzou fans stomping their feet? We don't have anything to try and prove. 90% of the fanbase wants to leave. We're leaving the Big 12, not the other way around.

And again, Mizzou would love it if you guys kicked us out. But you won't, so no point to continue throwing a temper tantrum because we are taking our time. LOL, it's not like you actually have good schools you might lose out on. The only ones left are the leftovers, which should fit in well in the Big Leftover conference.

Nice to see you ladies have gotten past your sad and embarrassing :deevee: DON'T LEAVE ME :deevee: phase. LMAO

I'm not sure that BGL has, actually. I bet if you ask her now, she'll say she wants MU to stay. I've been saying the same thing since the very beginning, if your school stands to gain by leaving to the SEC, by all means, you should have been out a month ago.

ROFL The left over conference, the only left over conference that has a place for Mizzou.

Big 10, no thanks
SEC, no thanks

Here is an idea since they are such a football powerhouse. Join ND and go independent, yeah, that's it.

If Mizzou stays in the Big XII, it's because the concessions were enough to change Deaton's mind. The offer isn't the issue.

The abusive husband promises he'll change. Honest!

Thats my thinking. I think Mizzou prefers to stay in the Big XII, but stability is the issue. Everyone who says the Big XII is stable is kidding themselves...just some weeks ago it appeared OU and UT were contemplating leaving. All of that drama threw Mizzou into a frenzy to find a dancing partner and now it appears that the dust may be settling we will have to see if Mizzou thinks its enough to stick around. I don't think staying in the Big XII or moving to the SEC is a black and white issue like some do.

You do realize, that Mizzou is a big chunk of the current instability, correct?

Last I heard, MU didn't have enough votes to get into the SEC - has that changed?

Where have you been...this was all started by OU and UT. You honestly cannot blame Mizzou for entertaining a possible offer with the SEC. I gaurantee all the ground work for what Mizzou is doing now was laid when OU and UT were entertaining defection to the Pac-12.......it wasnt like this happened a year or so ago, it happened only a couple of weeks ago.

Let me refresh your memory: Mizzou to the B10 ring a bell? You know, when you were begging, and pleading for an invite, only to say (after being rejected) that you were SOLID to the B12.

I'm not forgiving the sins of OU/UT and all their BS with with PAC, but to ignore that you are a large part of the CURRENT problem with instability is laughable, at best.

More than the 12mil per year?

The CURRENT issue is because of OU/UT. If aTm would have left for the SEC and OU/UT would have not entertained the Pac-12. Mizzou would have not did what they did.

All of the current Big 12 schools - including OU & UT - made a commitment to stabilize the conference....all of them, except Missouri.

They also made a commitment less than a year ago and we all saw how that worked out. OU/UT still ended up posturing with the PAC 12 and that is why Mizzou forced its hand with this SEC talk.

You can all argue about whose fault it is/was, the reasons, what will happen, etc. but it all boils down to:

http://tucsoncitizen.com/mattminkuss...011/01/sec.jpg > http://www.norcalbuffs.com/wp-conten...09/big-xii.jpg


If Mizzou has a spot available in the richer, more successful, more interesting league they'd be crazy not to take it.

Yeah but the fat girl with pimples didn't get asked to dance by the homecoming king.

You rag on Mizzou for beating their chest and then you say crap like this. Mizzou is not the fat girl with pimples, and you have no idea what the homecoming king has done or said.

The SEC does not ask anyone to join their league. They have said it time and again. There are no official or formal offers. Texas A & M was not invited...they asked to join.

Just because there is no official offer from the SEC does not mean nothing is happening. Not sure why people keep thinking that.

Neinas is really selling it hard to MU. Too little to late?

Ed scores a direct hit LMAO

I wonder if the move to the SEC officially goes down if the nah-sayers ragging on Mizzou for not being attractive enough to move to a better conference will retract their comments...........im thinking no.

He made some interesting statements this morning. The most interesting one was along the lines of "Mizzou won't switch horses until after 2012"

Petro was speculating that to mean he was sending a message that the Big 12 was going to go for maximum exit fees. I think they would have a tough time doing that since they would have to put out the perception that the league is very weak for that to work.

Has anything new developed regarding Neinas selling the Big XII to Mizzou today?

I am sure if I call Iowa a fat girl with pimples you would say something. I fail to see how every other school can have pride...but not Mizzou. Anytime Mizzou gets excited or proud about anything the KU/K-State crowd has a ****ing conniption.

The large majority of people saying those things are KU/KSU fans. Why would rivals retract their smack? If MU goes SEC there is a better chance of them shifting to sister-****ing smack than there is of them playing nice with you.
Which is as it should be.

Exactly, are we suppose to not be fans of our institution. I am quite sure if the ACC was entertaining having KU or K-state they would be doing the same thing Mizzou is doing right now.

:crybaby:

They are your rivals, their behavior is by the book. Your showing them it bothers you is a break down on your part and gives them fuel to burn. It's frigging college rival smack for god's sake, give it back or laugh at it.

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Have no problem with the smack, it is just the KU/KSU folks seemed shocked, shocked that gambling is going in this casino. They seem surprised that Mizzou fans say anything at all, and then get outraged when their senseless smack gets refuted by facts and reality.

I could, I suppose, make a long post about our rivals being sister ****ers and the like, but that is so readily apparent it does not need to be mentioned. :D

Never said ed bothered me, just said he was full of crap, and proceeded to articulate why I thought so.

The Big XII is still nervous, despite adding TCU. That much is readily apparent. I think Neinas believes if he can convince MU to stay, that will put the instability of the BIG XII to rest, as it would be perceived as a sign of strength.

Ohh,...wait the ACC is not entertaining you guys.....I guess its nice to even have the possibility of options.

What in the **** are you talking about? Jesus Christ.

I'm sure a lot of Mizzou fans have a realistic view of their program, but around here most of it will always be overshadowed by the constant stream of full reerun MU/KU trash talk. It would be the same stuff if KU was in a bigger state with more TVs, wasn't currently a laughing stock in CFB, and was the one possibly moving to another conference.... KU fans would speculate to no end, MU fans would get annoyed and talk about KU fans thumping their chest, KU fans would laugh from the so-called butthurt, both sides would continue to misinterpret and generalize every little thing each fan said as the opinion of the entire fanbase, then MU fans would laugh if/when the move didn't happen.

Meh.

And yet, you're the one crying like a little bitch.

Exactly

Mizzou is a quality program and a quality school. Why the hell would anything anyone says bother you? It's how the game is played.

Yea, im crying....im over here shaking....:rolleyes:

The funniest thing here is the butthurt KU (or whomever) fans acting like "standing strong" in a deflated conference is a matter of morality, acting like if their school had a football team, they would not be entertaining this. If Kansas had a football team and the SEC would even entertain the notion they'd be doing the exact same thing, clammoring to switch to an elevator that is going upward.

Who knows what will happen, but the idea is not ridiculous. It sounds like Missouri's propensity to shoot themselves in the foot is the biggest obstacle here.

I just think the biggest laugh of all is rival fans acting like life in the Big 12 is great when they'd be doing the same dance if they had any options.

MU might screw this up yet, but come on.

B12 adds TCU yesterday. But it will be impossible to leave the conference in a week. Haha.

Lets just keep taking our sweet time to figure out what is best for Missouri.

http://brightwithnow.com/images/hammock_sourcecopy.gif

If you could put this in an algorithm it would help.

The people that are talking about how much Missouri doesn't matter are the same people that are blaming them for conference instability in the Big 12 and creating this mess.

You guys don't matter! Damn you for ruining everything when you glanced across the room!

LMAOLMAO

Mizzou...the school that doesn't matter so much that it matters. LOL

All of this is Mizzou's fault, but we are just the fat girl with pimples.

Exactly, they want it both ways....its just irrational thought occuring from their butthurt.

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