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Chiefs Sign Sammy Watkins (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=314384)

Watkins contract is essentially a 2 year deal, in year 3 they can get out of it with some money saved

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My only concern is how much Tyreek Hill will need to keep him around.

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13510657)

i dont give a **** if someone thinks we over paid him or not. Our offense is now on an elite level. We have playmakers at every position. If Fisher gets his head out of his ass and we find a lg we're set. Its not my money, why the **** do i care what Veatch does with Hunts money? Give me good players and that will entertan me

So we have all we need for Mahomes to be successful with no excuses on offense?

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13510626)

Exactly. It is clear that the Chiefs overpaid but that is free agency for you. I actually thought we could get Watkins for something around 8M-9M per season because of the fact that he has been injured at times and did not produce much last year. I was dead wrong.

This being said, if Watkins reaches his full potential the next few years he will be easily worth all that money.

Lot of ifs in that statement

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 13510681)

$7 million dead money in 2020 if we cut him though. Not good.

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 13510685)

So we have all we need for Mahomes to be successful with no excuses on offense?

Yes, barring unforeseen injuries . . . .

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13510714)

$7 million dead money in 2020 if we cut him though. Not good.

But $14 million in cap savings. The $7 million is a sunk cost, due to the signing bonus. Not much you can do about that. Big time FA’s are signing big money contracts w/o at least SOME guaranteed money in them.

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 13510628)

Right! Because contract numbers are what Mahomes uses to determine who to throw the ball to.:rolleyes:

Not what I meant. I hope they don't make him want to. I don't think it will happen but we have seen it happen before in other places.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13510714)

$7 million dead money in 2020 if we cut him though. Not good.

They can split it over 2 years with a Post June designation.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13510714)

$7 million dead money in 2020 if we cut him though. Not good.

Do you think we will?

Sammy will be in his prime and so will Mahomes.

If Sammy stays on the field and puts up the numbers he is capable of- he will be signing a new contract instead of being cut.

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13510731)

Not what I meant. I hope they don't make him want to. I don't think it will happen but we have seen it happen before in other places.

I agree with what you're saying. Reid is the designer of the game plan. I could see him game planning Watkins as the first read on most plays. But, that doesn't predicate Mahomes to go to him. If Watkins is the first read, and it's a curl route 6 yards down field, but Hill has separation further downfield, Mahomes has shown the propensity to hit Hill instead.

This is what I think will happen in 2020.

-Sammy Watkins is on the team.
-Tyreek Hill gets a new deal with a low first year cap hit.
-Chiefs will look for Travis Kelce’s replacement in the draft.

I think this is Kelce’s last contract with the Chiefs. They can’t afford to pay him, Hunt, Hill, Mahomes and Watkins big money.

Kelce would be 31 that year so he seems like the odd man out

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13510760)

This is what I think will happen in 2020.

-Sammy Watkins is on the team.
-Tyreek Hill gets a new deal with a low first year cap hit.
-Chiefs will look for Travis Kelce’s replacement in the draft.

I think this is Kelce’s last contract with the Chiefs. They can’t afford to pay him, Hunt, Hill, Mahomes and Watkins big money.

Kelce would be 31 that year so he seems like the odd man out

No way, the guy has been performing like a stud on peanuts. He is going to want some $$$ front loaded if/when he signs.

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 13510576)

Worst overpays

1. Sammy Watkins, Kansas City Chiefs
Deal: Three years, $48 million

The good news is that Watkins is young, talented and joining a team coached by Andy Reid, who excels at maximizing personnel. The bad news is that Watkins simply has not been very productive, a leading reason he is on his third team in eight months.

The Chiefs are paying Watkins as though he's a sure bet. They were not the only team willing to spend big for him. Dallas was also interested, as was Chicago. It seems like a case of teams valuing a player based more on their draft reports than what the player has done since college.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/stor...worst-overpays

More from that article...

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Watkins' annual average is a shade under what Mike Evans got in Tampa Bay, and twice what Paul Richardson received in Washington. (Watkins and Richardson have nearly identical numbers over the past two seasons, albeit in eight fewer games for Watkins.)

Watkins ranks 57th in receptions, 30th in receiving yards and 17th in receiving touchdowns since entering the league in 2014, which could indicate he simply needs more opportunities.

Hitchens also cracked the list:

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7. Anthony Hitchens, Kansas City Chiefs

Deal: Five years, $45 million

The Chiefs are paying $9 million a year for a linebacker not everyone sees as a three-down player. Two evaluators agreed that Hitchens is a good player but not a difference-maker. They thought he could struggle in coverage, while noting he would be transitioning from a 4-3 base defense in Dallas to a 3-4 base defense in Kansas City. With good linebacker depth in the draft, comparable alternatives could be available for much less money.

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13510776)

More from that article...

Hitchens also cracked the list:

Why do you quote that article, yet ignore this one? Honestly, I don't blame you...LMAO

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...eid-the-future

Yeah, Tyreek is gonna wanna get a good payday.

It'll be tough to keep both, but the hope at that point is that Mahomes is developed and you can have him carry the offense somewhat with new young WR's.