not sure what I've ever said to you but okay?

You've never said anything to me, but you've said lots and lots of stupid things and unfortunately you make KU fans look bad because of it.

Brock is always on point.

I actually haven't been paying a whole lot of attention here lately, but isn't the current SEC voting not enough to get Mizzou in? That might be part of the hold up.

You posted in the Nebraska thread at 3:43 this morning. That's not 30 hrs bruh.

What have I said that you consider "stupid"?

I don't group fans of teams together.

We all have our own opinions.

Maybe you should worry more about your own posts and less about mine, just a thought.

Oh true, just jumped on to congratulate Nebraska on their comeback win against tOSU.

Wasn't interested in the personal attacks that permeate this board.

[ site:chiefsplanet.com/BB "wickedson" ]

Yea. Brock just looked at that post with the wonder of a child experiencing the world for the first time.

DUDE. Climb up that old cockroach infested building you live in,& take the plunge.
Trust me it will work for you

I think I get it, Wickedson is Frankie's son and he takes offense of people calling his grandma a whore

Link

SCANDAL: ESPN Told The ACC Which Teams To Take From Big East Conference

David Luckie, I Bleed Crimson Red | Oct. 9, 2011, 9:56 PM

When the Atlantic Coast Conference announced that Pittsburgh and Syracuse would be leaving the Big East and joining the ACC, it was seen as a logical move to expand the league’s footprint in the Northeast.

But as details on the backroom negotiations emerge, it is clear that the “worldwide leader” was a behind-the-scenes worldwide schemer, exerting its influence and driving the ACC toward the programs it wanted to have in the league.


The Boston Globe’s Mark Blaudschun has a story in today’s print and online editions outlining the process by which the decision was made to include Pitt and Syracuse and exclude UConn, despite the Huskies’ recent success in both football and basketball.
The money quotes:

BC athletic director Gene DeFilippo, who was part of the 12-member ACC expansion committee, adamantly denied that the move was dictated by basketball interests, but he did concede that the effects of it may boost that sport more than football.
“It had nothing to do with basketball,’’ said DeFilippo. “It was football money which drove expansion. It was football money and securing our future.’’
DeFilippo said the move was dictated in part by the expansion of the Southeastern Conference to include Texas A&M, which prompted the Big 12 to inquire about Pittsburgh, which is in the Northeast, an area in which the ACC felt it necessary to expand.
…
The ACC just signed a new deal with ESPN that will increase the revenue for each school to approximately $13 million. With the addition of Pittsburgh and Syracuse, said DeFilippo, another significant increase will come.
“We always keep our television partners close to us,’’ he said. “You don’t get extra money for basketball. It’s 85 percent football money. TV - ESPN - is the one who told us what to do. This was football; it had nothing to do with basketball.’’

Why is Disney – via ABC and ESPN – instructing a conference expansion committee on which teams to include and which to leave out? The Big East has been the victim of ACC poaching in the past. Boston College, Miami and Virginia Tech all defected amid very bad blood and rather ugly legal disputes. The current round of hunting on posted land lands a historically powerful but recently weak Pitt football program and a Syracuse program that’s had only flashes of success. Left behind was UConn.


UConn has won a few titles in men’s and women’s basketball and while they lost millions on the trip, the football team earned a BCS bid after the 2010 season. With the Big 12, the Big 10 and even the SEC said to be interested in Big East schools, the conference is on the verge of implosion.


Basketball drives the Big East. Football is important, but there are seven members of the league that don’t play FBS football. Blaudschun suggests that those schools may break off and form a basketball only conference with Notre Dame.


What happens to UConn then?


Automatic BCS qualifying conferences poaching members from one another is a zero sum game. Someone has to lose for someone else to win. For the Big East to survive, it would have to either draw programs playing FBS football in another automatic qualifying conference, or offer someone in a non-automatic qualifying conference an upgrade. That opens up the possibilities for Conference USA, the Sun Belt, the MAC and other mid-major type conference schools to move up into a league with an automatic bid to a BCS bowl. But such a move would also hurt the image of a league already seen by fans as the least powerful of the BCS conferences.


Could the ESPN meddling have been a retaliatory move? Remember, the Big East turned down a $1.9 billion offer from the worldwide schemer and is said to be entertaining offers from NBC, CBS and FOX for its next media contract. ESPN is currently the first tier media partner for the league, but after helping the ACC decide which teams to kidnap from the Big East, an over-the-air network getting the deal of a lifetime is a fair bet.


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It makes all the sense in the world that a league looking to expand would seek advice from the networks given that one of the primary considerations in any expansion is the impact it will have on the league's ability to land a big TV contract. I see nothing scandalous about it.

Am I missing the part where ESPN did something wrong?

It's ESPN, they are evil east-coasters.

Yeah, this is a non-issue to me. Its not like ESPN approached the ACC and ordered them to action, ACC wanted to expand and asked for their broadcast partner's input on the value of potential targets. What is ESPN supposed to do, take a vow of silence and say "sorry, but it would (somehow) be unethical for us to say anything. Go figure it out on your own, and we'll tell you later if you made the correct move or not."

I agree with your post and don't really see anything wrong with it, but from the sounds of the below quote, that's exactly what ESPN did.

Not at all. ESPN did not approach the ACC and tell them to start expanding, and by the way, here's the two schools you need, the ACC decided to expand and consulted with ESPN. By "told us what to do", what that meant was "well, since you asked for our opinion, if you want to maximize revenue, these two schools will do it"

It appears the sec met today. No action taken with regards to expansion.

Their statement reads very similiar to what they said right before A & M left.

TCU has a press conference tonight to announce they are joining the Big 12.

that guy has a bit of an 'outtie'.

Bullshit, he's giving birth to a cheeseburger.

i think that othe dude is Liam Neesen

There's a 45 page report bouncing around in AP articles that says the SEC move could be worth $12 million a year to Mizzou above the Big XII.

I have to admit, my first thought on reading that news story was...well, duh. It seems to me to be a no-brainer that the SEC would have more revenue and more potential revenue growth that any other conference, given their rabid football following.

I think those numbers are interesting(i.e. not based in reality)

The real question:


Is Mizzou worth enough for the SEC to want them?

TCU = accepts

He's got a hernia. He needs to get that fixed or he'll die.

Did KK lose his mind today?

I did not listen either. I am sure he probably had another good anti-Mizzou rant. Anyone got details?

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sweet. Great football pick up

He was talking about inviting Missouri State into the Big 12 as a F.U. to Mizzou

I shit you not

That was pretty good.

He really had a plan too. 25,000 students... Already many other "state" schools in the Big 12. That area is a much faster growing part of Missouri than Columbia...etc

It was genious. Take a school that is 0-6 in FCS with an empty stadium that seats 16,000, and put them into a BCS conference just to piss off Jay Nixon even though having two teams in BCS conferences in the state would be a huge coup for Nixon.

The man just owns this town.

His ratings are in a free-fall. His only competition is Nick Wright, a complete dipshit, and Wright has pulled even in the ratings.

Looks like U.C.F. might be heading to the Big East.

I take it your pleased?

This,... I have always been less critical of KK than most, but this past week or two with him crying and whining about Mizzou has really made me annoyed...and I am actually one of these Mizzou fans that isn't sold on going to the SEC. He is sounding like a scorned lover or something and his rants are getting old.

Doug Gottlieb ripped MU today. Compared them to Air Force, but said Air Force did the smart thing in admitting they couldn't compete in the Big XII.

And. Yet. You. Keep. Listening.

To whom?

BITB

So when will MU annouce they are heading to the SEC?

Back in the Butt?

WTF dude?

:D

Is Mizzou gone yet?

LMAO

Northern Iowa kicked the crap out of SMS a week or so ago (in their own yard).

I am. It will be great to be on TV every week if they get an invite.

I'm not sure MS could even beat Kansas.

Leave it to Wickedson to be impressed by KK's plan to bring Missouri State to the Big XII.

Well, KU would probably win a home. :D


I am from Springfield originally, and as much I have a special place in my heart for SMS.....I would have to be high on several forms of crack to think they would be worthy of a BIG XII invite.

Why was Doug Gottlieb slamming Mizzou? His main area is bball, and I think Mizzou would be very competitive in SEC bball. That does not make sense.

Actually no, his moaning has got old as of late on this issue, but I see on here people mentioning that he is still moaning about it and coming up with new ideas.

Football no way in hell could Missouri State could compete but the other sports would be okay in the Big 12. Mizzou would be pissed as hell with more competion in state with a BCS tag, but politically Nixon and the boys would be tickled pink.

I would say UCF would be a prime target from the Big East considering the overhaul of programs they would like to influx into them.

The SEC puts a halt on expansion
October, 10, 2011
OCT 10 5:15 PM ET

By Edward Aschoff

Everyone expects the SEC to eventually expand to 14 schools, but that time doesn't appear to be now.

SEC presidents and chancellors met Monday for their fall meeting, but no expansion action was taken and we don't know when it will.

“The Presidents and Chancellors of the Southeastern Conference met on Monday for its regularly-scheduled fall meeting," the league said in a statement. "While they discussed a wide range of issues dealing with the changing landscape of intercollegiate athletics, no actions were taken with regards to expansion.”

This comes after even more speculation arose after Missouri curators gave chancellor Brady Deaton the authority to explore a move to another conference rather than immediately commit to the Big 12. Word quickly spread that Missouri had real interest in joining the SEC, but only after the Big Ten showed no interest in the school.

Last week, The Birmingham News reported that a majority of SEC presidents and chancellors would support Missouri's application, but that majority falls short of the nine votes required to add a new member.

While the SEC says it isn't taking steps toward growing at the moment, don't expect that sort of talk to quell any of the expansion chatter. Even after the SEC officially announced Texas A&M as its 13th member, all the talk surrounded what school was going to be the 14th team and if there was a possibility of three more joining. It seems as if Texas A&M is a mere afterthought at this point.

Missouri's name will continue to come up, as the St. Louis and Kansas City markets figure to be attractive to the SEC and so does the school's AAU membership. Remember, this isn't just about football. There are a lot of other factors that go into expansion other than football games.

Don't be surprised if West Virginia continues to come up again. Maybe Louisville will get thrown into the mix. And don't count the Virginia Tech and Florida State talk either.

It should be fun with all the speculation and rumors sure to come.

Missouri isn't doing themselves any favors by playing like absolute dogshit right now. :shake:

Care to post the articles right before aTm broke out? Nearly identical.

That would piss off USF and make me LOL.

I read on twitter the dearmounds said it was a done deal.

I don't have the hatred for USF that most UCF folks do. When I was there USF wasn't really worth a shit. I hope UCF does get this invite though... will be great to see them on TV a lot.

We'll know a lot more tomorrow.

It's time for a deadline. Tell the MUtts to go or stay, but your decision needs to be in by last Friday.

I agree.

The conference is getting stronger with the addition of a BCS winner in TCU.

Tough to really worry about a program that doesn't bring much as far as athletic accomplishment goes.

All the schools moving (Nebraska, Syracuse, Pitt, TCU).... less to do with tv sets than everyone originally thought. Which is MU's only strong point.

It's about strong programs and MU simply doesn't have much as far as that goes.

I will admit that one school was in demand because of TV sets and not because of winning (Texas A&M)...

But at least they do have 1 conf title, '98 I think? and a national title in football 70 years ago

And dude cheerleaders.

And nerdy ass boots.

Mizzou has been perennial top 25 contenders in football, basketball, and baseball for a number of years now. To argue that TCU is better is asinine.

How many BCS bowls?

How many do you think TCU is going to get now that they're playing with the big boys?

This is wrong on so many levels. Time and time again it has been proven to mainly be about TV sets. Syracuse and Pittsburgh give the ACC the entire East Coast from Miami clear up to New York City.

Even TCU's move is about TV sets..as in Texas was willing to let them in because having TCU in the Big XII with the LHN is better than having to go to the Pac12 with no LHN.

Nebraska's move was about their brand....a NATIONAL brand that brings TV sets to the Big 10 network across the country.


Saying MU is not a strong program is just stupid. 40 wins in 4 years in football, 2 elite eights since 2000, and success in the lesser non-revenue sports as well.

Of course, one would not expect you to see any of that, with your face firmly planted in Texas' crotch.

A couple of more than Nebraska has had in the last 9-10 years.

Can't be any less than Mizzou.

The only thing TCU to the Big 12 will accomplish is reducing the number of Texas recruits that will consider KU, KSU, and ISU. Congrats.

Yeah, I live in the Tampa area so there are obviously a lot of USF students and alum. Some of the people I work with are huge USF homers and every year they claim they're the best in the state and then they go blow it and then spiral downward to an unranked finish. In everyone else's eyes they're on the same level as UCF (who is definitely on the upswing), but the little USF homers think they're UF, FSU, or Miami.

No exit fees, then? Sweet. Hell, we can then sue the conference for breach of contract.

I know USF has beaten Florida State recently, did they beat Miami too?