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BossChief 04-25-2025 12:37 PM

This pick absolutely Carrie’s a ton of risk. He could go down this season and not return for a year, two or never.

Good thing these fools hedged their bet before making it.

Rausch 04-25-2025 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 18043433)
I find it interesting that nobody in sports media is making the arguments a good portion of CP is.

Granted I generally despise most sports media so I’m at a crossroads here.

The entire NFL, other than KC, made the point he wasn't worth taking in the 1st.

We're the outliers here. KC is hoping he beats incredibly long odds.

Rausch 04-25-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18043437)
This pick absolutely Carrie’s a ton of risk. He could go down this season and not return for a year, two or never.

Good thing these fools hedged their bet before making it.

Did we?

If we'd have overpayed for the Raven's tackle or traded for Tunsil I'd care less because there'd be a dependable fall back plan. I don't feel like a career back up is a dependable fall back plan.

BossChief 04-25-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18043421)
The tweet I saw referenced that he was "Already squatting 225 pounds"

To strengthen the ligament, this point of the rehab probably calls for lower weight and higher reps. To lower risk of re-injury and strengthening the affected area.

Educated guess, but highly likely.

Nirvana58 04-25-2025 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18043388)
Look, these arguments are dumb. Comparing injuries is dumb. Saying things in this thread like "well it worked out for Trey Smith" when he had blood clots is dumb.

Roaf "can hardly walk" okay? What's the point of saying that? Did he have a torn patellar? Because if not, it's completely useless and a waste of time to post it.



I don't like risk. If he rolls the dice and beats the 11% odds or whatever it's an unreal and complete FIX to our left tackle issue. But even if it works out it doesn't make the bet smart.



That said, I'm not really sure how ELSE we fix the position. You don't get this talent in free agency and you don't get it drafting at 32. It's a gamble that could fix the team for a decade. OR we just turned our first into a 5th.

11%?



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My post was more tongue in cheek if you couldn't tell.

If the medical checks out. Then we got a blue chip talent at 32.

At the end of the day. Can he protect Mahomes? If we get average to above average LT for 4-5 years. They knocked this pick off out of the park.

chiefzilla1501 04-25-2025 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043247)
I think a sizeable number of us are looking at Taylor going as a good thing.

I don’t love or hate Taylor. But yeah if you can replace him with someone better, it’s a large expense we don’t have to pay. We will need him no matter what this year but next year is a perfect time to start reconsidering.

smithandrew051 04-25-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043440)
Did we?

If we'd have overpayed for the Raven's tackle or traded for Tunsil I'd care less because there'd be a dependable fall back plan. I don't feel like a career back up is a dependable fall back plan.

Ronnie Stanley never hit free agency and I doubt the Texans would’ve ever considered a trade with the Chiefs unless they gel the Chiefs were getting completely ripped off.

Considering the available options, Moore was about the best they could’ve done.

BossChief 04-25-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043440)
Did we?

If we'd have overpayed for the Raven's tackle or traded for Tunsil I'd care less because there'd be a dependable fall back plan. I don't feel like a career back up is a dependable fall back plan.

Moore looked pretty good last year. He was solid while Silverback was out.

Sucks for Moore that he will likely lose the competition to Simmons, who is EXTREMELY SMILAR to Silverback. Very similar technique, functional strength, mobility and mentality.

Marcellus 04-25-2025 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 18043438)
The entire NFL, other than KC, made the point he wasn't worth taking in the 1st.

We're the outliers here. KC is hoping he beats incredibly long odds.

The entire NFL didn’t need a starting LT. nor were they picking 32.

So if he was taken 5 picks later you would have been fine?

kcfan75 04-25-2025 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 18043448)
The entire NFL didn’t need a starting LT.

Or had a higher pick and got one.

We took the best available LT at the spot we were in.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2025 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 18043448)
The entire NFL didn’t need a starting LT.

Nor did we, based on the investment we made in Moore.

And every team in the NFL could use a pro bowl caliber OT with experience on both sides of the line who presents a long-term solution to a difficult position to fill.

Lack of 'need' doesn't explain the slide. Scheme fit, or lack thereof, doesn't explain it.

It's talent, injury or a combination of both.

So either we put more stock in the talent than most or less stock in the injury.

We ARE the outliers.

Rausch 04-25-2025 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 18043443)
I don’t love or hate Taylor. But yeah if you can replace him with someone better, it’s a large expense we don’t have to pay. We will need him no matter what this year but next year is a perfect time to start reconsidering.

Apparently Veach made it clear he's not getting extended and is gone after this year. I don't have a quote but I've heard two different people say this. I'll assume it's true and he addressed it somewhere.

I think we've got options. One failed LT should be a fine guard and the other played well in spot duty at RT last year. Even if LT works out great this year we're back in the market next year at RT if the young talent we have doesn't improve enough to play passable football.

MahomesMagic 04-25-2025 12:49 PM

I mentioned before the draft that our stars were aging out.

Chris Jones and Travis Kelce are not going to be on the team in 3 years or if Jones is still around he won't be the Chris Jones that won 3 SB's.


We need to add elite talent as well as hit on picks.

If we landed a Pro Bowl Tackle at 32 that's a home run value with cost control that helps us win 2-3 more SB's.

Marcellus 04-25-2025 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18043455)
Nor did we, based on the investment we made in Moore.

And every team in the NFL could use a pro bowl caliber OT with experience on both sides of the line who presents a long-term solution to a difficult position to fill.

Lack of 'need' doesn't explain the slide. Scheme fit, or lack thereof, doesn't explain it.

It's talent, injury or a combination of both.

So either we put more stock in the talent than most or less stock in the injury.

We ARE the outliers.

We signed a guy with 7 career starts at LT and that’s enough to put it in the books eh?

Seems to me Veach wants to make sure what happened the last 2 years doesn’t happen again.

Too many eggs in 1 basket has backfired.

DynastyChiefs 04-25-2025 12:49 PM

If anyone does not like the Simmons pick, you can always leave and root for another team


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