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RunKC 02-13-2025 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967236)
We've been through this every year since Fisher went down.

This is the problem. It’s not being emotional. It’s being logical.

The Chiefs won’t ever pick high enough for a true LT prospect. The Chiefs can’t afford to trade the house to move up for one. An average LT rarely is available in FA, especially one that fits your offense.

And no not that many teams have a strong need for a LT. The Patriots are one of the few teams who do and they have the 4th overall pick to get any LT they want. The Bears have that same luxury picking in the top 10 so they won’t need to spend on Robinson.

And FFS people look at the contracts. “Robert Hunt got 5/100!” Okay? They can get out of his contract without much damage after 2025.

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People have to stop looking at the headline and realize the finer details in these contracts

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17967268)
We have to stop paying all our good players. The cap just doesn't allow it. We need to let Bolton and Reid walk. Pick a great LB in round 2 or 3.

What?

This team let Tyreek Hill and LJarius Sneed go.

O.city 02-13-2025 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17967268)
We have to stop paying all our good players. The cap just doesn't allow it. We need to let Bolton and Reid walk. Pick a great LB in round 2 or 3.

We just traded out elite CB instead of paying him.

Who have they paid that they shouldn't have?

htismaqe 02-13-2025 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17967255)
Eh, Andy seems to have a pretty good idea of OL. If they don't think he's a T, I'm gonna ride with that.

Eric Fisher played right tackle to start. Do t read too much into it. Where they put Kingsley this season has very little to do with his long term prospects.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 09:30 AM

Okay? The problem is if you want to get out from under that contract the player kind of sucks which means you're right back in the same situation. You're not signing Cam Robinson to a 5 year deal already planning on how to get out from under it in 2 years. That's just a waste of time for all involved

O.city 02-13-2025 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967274)
Eric Fisher played right tackle to start. Do t read too much into it. Where they put Kingsley this season has very little to do with his long term prospects.

Playing the other tackle spot is a bit different than going to a guard spot.

htismaqe 02-13-2025 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17967268)
We have to stop paying all our good players. The cap just doesn't allow it. We need to let Bolton and Reid walk. Pick a great LB in round 2 or 3.

Bolton and Reid are the guys you KEEP if the money is right. They're actually worth it because of positional value.

The guys you let walk are guys like Trey Smith.

htismaqe 02-13-2025 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17967276)
Playing the other tackle spot is a bit different than going to a guard spot.

Not really, no.

If they thought he was a guard, they wouldn't have made him the starter at LT to start the season. They were experimenting during the season, not just with him, but with the line as a whole. Out of necessity.

O.city 02-13-2025 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967278)
Bolton and Reid are the guys you KEEP if the money is right. They're actually worth it because of positional value.

The guys you let walk are guys like Trey Smith.

Yeah, you could theoretically keep Reid and Bolton for the price of Smith. Seems like an easy deal.

O.city 02-13-2025 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967279)
Not really, no.

If they thought he was a guard, they wouldn't have made him the starter at LT to start the season. They were experimenting during the season, not just with him, but with the line as a whole. Out of necessity.

If they thought he was a guard they wouldn't have drafted him there, but things change.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 09:34 AM

Unless Bolton or the potential LT of 2025 comes cheaper than I think they will, I think Reid's a goner

This is his last shot to get paid big, he's earned it. When you have the replacement already very clearly in the wings, that's one you can risk letting go of.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17967269)
This is the problem. It’s not being emotional. It’s being logical.

The Chiefs won’t ever pick high enough for a true LT prospect. The Chiefs can’t afford to trade the house to move up for one. An average LT rarely is available in FA, especially one that fits your offense.

And no not that many teams have a strong need for a LT. The Patriots are one of the few teams who do and they have the 4th overall pick to get any LT they want. The Bears have that same luxury picking in the top 10 so they won’t need to spend on Robinson.

And FFS people look at the contracts. “Robert Hunt got 5/100!” Okay? They can get out of his contract without much damage after 2025.

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People have to stop looking at the headline and realize the finer details in these contracts

And for the record, that's not negligable cap damage. That's eating 24 million in dead money. If you're cutting anybody in that situation, you ****ed up bigly.

htismaqe 02-13-2025 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17967269)
This is the problem. It’s not being emotional. It’s being logical.

The Chiefs won’t ever pick high enough for a true LT prospect. The Chiefs can’t afford to trade the house to move up for one. An average LT rarely is available in FA, especially one that fits your offense.

And no not that many teams have a strong need for a LT. The Patriots are one of the few teams who do and they have the 4th overall pick to get any LT they want. The Bears have that same luxury picking in the top 10 so they won’t need to spend on Robinson.

And FFS people look at the contracts. “Robert Hunt got 5/100!” Okay? They can get out of his contract without much damage after 2025.

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People have to stop looking at the headline and realize the finer details in these contracts

I'm not saying don't sign Cam Robinson. I'm saying people better be prepared to watch other parts of the team get worse because of it.

There's just not a GOOD solution. Robinson may be the best solution available but better than bad does not equal good.

Anyway it's all gonna be moot. The moment this board gets fixated like this, the guy signs somewhere else.

O.city 02-13-2025 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967287)
I'm not saying don't sign Cam Robinson. I'm saying people better be prepared to watch other parts of the team get worse because of it.

There's just not a GOOD solution. Robinson may be the best solution available but better than bad does not equal good.

Anyway it's all gonna be moot. The moment this board gets fixated like this, the guy signs somewhere else.

I think we're at the point where....the defense is gonna have to atrophy a little. They've gotta get the offense back to a high level.

htismaqe 02-13-2025 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967275)
Okay? The problem is if you want to get out from under that contract the player kind of sucks which means you're right back in the same situation. You're not signing Cam Robinson to a 5 year deal already planning on how to get out from under it in 2 years. That's just a waste of time for all involved

He's the "best LT available". He's not signing a contract like that. See OBJ.


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