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pugsnotdrugs19 11-07-2024 09:54 AM

We are missing so much info that it makes it hard to know where they go in 2025.

Obviously best case is they still think quality starter is in Kingsley's future. I would pay Trey. Keep the interior rock solid for Pat.

If you bring back the likes of Hopkins and Hollywood to go with Rice and Worthy, I think the WR corp will be strong enough to help the LT situation not look as dire as it has at times the past two years.

But if they believe they have to go out and get a LT, I understand, just would mean Kingsley is an absolute lost cause which feels very premature.

O.city 11-07-2024 09:55 AM

Why would you wanna bring Hollywood back? He got hurt...again.

Let that go.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-07-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17790950)
Why would you wanna bring Hollywood back? He got hurt...again.

Let that go.

I'm not big on letting WRs go who have the chemistry with Mahomes down.

By all accounts, he was one who did. Much like JuJu and Hopkins now have. You need the speed insurance too. Why not? It's gonna be an incentive laden deal. It would be nice if we don't have to force WR in the top 64 again. Just take it if it comes.

tredadda 11-07-2024 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17790921)
A player Reid believes could be the franchise LT is one of the few positions I'd give it up for, gladly.

I wouldn’t unless he was a true blue chip LT. I get having a franchise LT, but KC also has to be careful with how many picks they surrender. To keep this team competitive long term they will have to continue to stock this roster with young, cheap drafted talent. The more picks they have, the more chances they will snag that talent.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-07-2024 09:59 AM

I would bring Hopkins, Hollywood, JuJu, Mecole, and Watson back. Leave no doubt. They are all one-year deal guys. And if you get a BPA opportunity in the draft, so be it.

Couch-Potato 11-07-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17790950)
Why would you wanna bring Hollywood back? He got hurt...again.

Let that go.

Because he’ll be cheep and capable. He started this season as our #1, why would we want to let him walk?

Hopkins
Rice
Hollywood
Worthy

^That’s a really good WR Core.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-07-2024 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17790962)
Because he’ll be cheep and capable. He started this season as our #1, why would we want to let him walk?

Right.

If you get even just 12 games out of him as a guy capable of leading the team in yards at around $5m, that's a no brainer.

Couch-Potato 11-07-2024 10:03 AM

Kingsley will be fine, Chiefs have the lowest percentage in the league of players drafted that never play @ 1.6%. As a reference the Vikes are at like 13.6%.

Let the kid develop some. My question is… Why can’t he play OG? …Couldn’t he move over to either OG spot if we lose one in the next couple seasons?

pugsnotdrugs19 11-07-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17790968)
Kingsley will be fine, Chiefs have the lowest percentage in the league of players drafted that never play @ 1.6%. As a reference the Vikes are at like 13.6%.

Let the kid develop some. My question is… Why can’t he play OG? …Couldn’t he move over to either OG spot if we lose one in the next couple seasons?

I would so no to guard because his game is more athleticism than power.

Wanya might be able to make that switch, but I'm not sure on that either.

O.city 11-07-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17790955)
I'm not big on letting WRs go who have the chemistry with Mahomes down.

By all accounts, he was one who did. Much like JuJu and Hopkins now have. You need the speed insurance too. Why not? It's gonna be an incentive laden deal. It would be nice if we don't have to force WR in the top 64 again. Just take it if it comes.

I'd have chemistry with him in shorts in April.

He didn't play a snap and missed the whole season. If he wants to come back for like 3 million dollars, ok. Otherwise.....keep DHop and go to the draft.

O.city 11-07-2024 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17790962)
Because he’ll be cheep and capable. He started this season as our #1, why would we want to let him walk?

Hopkins
Rice
Hollywood
Worthy

^That’s a really good WR Core.

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17790963)
Right.

If you get even just 12 games out of him as a guy capable of leading the team in yards at around $5m, that's a no brainer.

Well we basically lit 7 million dollars on fire for him this year. Hopefully he can do something in December and the playoffs, but thus far, not a great investment.

Sassy Squatch 11-07-2024 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17790984)
I'd have chemistry with him in shorts in April.

He didn't play a snap and missed the whole season. If he wants to come back for like 3 million dollars, ok. Otherwise.....keep DHop and go to the draft.

No shit. This infatuation with Brown is weird. He's done **** all because he got injured on the first snap of preseason. Unfortunate, but it is what it is. Putting stock into team PR nonsense is silly to me, especially given what happened in 2023 with Moore and Toney. Heard the same shit about those two and they ended up being unmitigated disasters.

Sassy Squatch 11-07-2024 10:22 AM

Now, do I think Brown will come close to being that bad? No, but I also wouldn't put any stock into what the team says in camp and preseason. They've tried to shine a lot of turds that ended up smelling like shit.

Balto 11-07-2024 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17790947)
We are missing so much info that it makes it hard to know where they go in 2025.

Obviously best case is they still think quality starter is in Kingsley's future. I would pay Trey. Keep the interior rock solid for Pat.

If you bring back the likes of Hopkins and Hollywood to go with Rice and Worthy, I think the WR corp will be strong enough to help the LT situation not look as dire as it has at times the past two years.

But if they believe they have to go out and get a LT, I understand, just would mean Kingsley is an absolute lost cause which feels very premature.

While Taylor is still young and has played excellent if you ask me, Veach could save almost $13M by trading him after this season and $20M is its a post-June 1st trade. Veach could let Smith walk, replace him with Wayna at RG. Trade Taylor to save between $13M-$20M, replace him with Kingsley. Then go out and get a blue ship LT somewhere and end up saving a crap ton of cap.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-07-2024 10:43 AM

I mean, that one and only play he did have in the preseason was a glimpse of what he could do for our offense. IDK, maybe he misses a few games next year but I'm comfortable spending $5m on a potential WR2 betting that he doesn't have another fluke chest injury that we've seen twice in our lifetimes.


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