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Quesadilla Joe 01-18-2018 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13368959)
Yeah. Wide open guys. Mahomes clearly can't throw to guys unless they're wide open.
Didn't say that. I'm just saying that Allen didn't get to pad his comp% by throwing to wide open people all the time.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-18-2018 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13369128)
Didn't say that. I'm just saying that Allen didn't get to pad his comp% by throwing to wide open people all the time.
Does it really matter when Patrick was throwing the ball far more times than Allen? That just doesn't mesh for me.

You need to pray that Josh Allen isn't a Denver Bronco come April.

RealSNR 01-18-2018 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13369128)
Didn't say that. I'm just saying that Allen didn't get to pad his comp% by throwing to wide open people all the time.
You have zero room to make fun of me for Geno if you actually believe Josh Allen is a better QB prospect than Mahomes.

Just because Mahomes played in the Air Raid doesn't mean all of his dudes were wide open all the time. You would know that if you actually watched his games or at the very least read a goddamn scouting report longer than 140 characters.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-18-2018 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13368959)
Yeah. Wide open guys. Mahomes clearly can't throw to guys unless they're wide open.

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I'm not talking to you specifically here because you already know, but even in college Mahomes was making numerous amazing throws where there was tight coverage. Off the top of my head I just think of the two fade passes at Texas his junior year and against K-State (the one he got hit on while he threw). Those guys had a step on the DB and Patrick put it in the absolute perfect spot each time.

But, that was pretty routine for him if we're all being honest.

NJChiefsFan 01-18-2018 09:07 PM
I'd love to see the alternate universe where the Chiefs need a QB and Denver has Mahomes. I wonder what Knowmo would be saying about this QB class.

Quesadilla Joe 01-18-2018 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13369153)
You have zero room to make fun of me for Geno if you actually believe Josh Allen is a better QB prospect than Mahomes.

Just because Mahomes played in the Air Raid doesn't mean all of his dudes were wide open all the time. You would know that if you actually watched his games or at the very least read a goddamn scouting report longer than 140 characters.
I watch the same YouTube cutups everybody else does on here. You rarely see Wyoming's receivers get any separation.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-18-2018 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13369237)
I'd love to see the alternate universe where the Chiefs need a QB and Denver has Mahomes. I wonder what Knowmo would be saying about this QB class.
It wasn't really a viable possibility last year because they had just drafted Lynch but if Denver would have gotten Mahomes... I would have been ****ing sick.

Quesadilla Joe 01-18-2018 09:21 PM
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Quesadilla Joe 01-18-2018 09:22 PM
Look at his receivers. He's scrambling and nobody is getting open. The guy is the definition of a one man show.

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DRM08 01-18-2018 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13369258)
I watch the same YouTube cutups everybody else does on here. You rarely see Wyoming's receivers get any separation.
Go look for Mahomes against LSU, full game. I don't think I have ever seen a team more overmatched than that game. Even LeRaven Clark, a 3rd round draft pick, got his ass thoroughly kicked by LSU's defensive line. Mahomes was pulling magic straight out of his ass against a team LOADED with NFL talent all over the field.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-18-2018 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13369293)
Go look for Mahomes against LSU, full game. I don't think I have ever seen a team more overmatched than that game. Even LeRaven Clark, a 3rd round draft pick, got his ass thoroughly kicked by LSU's defensive line. Mahomes was pulling magic straight out of his ass against a team LOADED with NFL talent all over the field.
I went through and counted from the box score one day.. that LSU defense had 9 NFL defenders (some that will be drafted this year) who played that day IIRC.

Including some super studs like Deion Jones, Arden Key, Jamal Adams and Tre'davious White who was burned on a deep pass by Grant.

Quesadilla Joe 01-18-2018 09:37 PM
Look at what Wyoming was before Allen got there...

2012 4-8
2013 5-7
2014 4-8
2015 2-10
2016 8-6
2017 8-5

DRM08 01-18-2018 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13369306)
I went through and counted from the box score one day.. that LSU defense had 9 NFL defenders (some that will be drafted this year) who played that day IIRC.

Including some super studs like Deion Jones, Arden Key, Jamal Adams and Tre'davious White who was burned on a deep pass by Grant.
LSU should not have been in that bowl game, but the SEC always plays with the matchups to give them the best chance of winning. LSU was supposed to be in a better bowl game, but it was an easy choice to put them in Houston against Tech. Guaranteed win for the SEC and easy travel location for LSU fans.

RunKC 01-18-2018 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13369284)
Look at his receivers. He's scrambling and nobody is getting open. The guy is the definition of a one man show.

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Jamal Adams
Tre’Davious White
Duke Riley
Jalen Mills
Kendall Beckwidth
Arden Key (projected 1st rd pick)
Deion Jones
Jalen Collins
Rashard Robinson

Patrick Mahomes scored 4 TD’s on that defense with a 3rd rd tackle and 5th rd RB.

Quesadilla Joe 01-18-2018 09:51 PM
This is like two plays after the gif I just posted. These are common throws this guy has to make in order to complete passes.

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