I admire your homerism, but what makes the Big XII the 3rd best basketball conference?

In the last 20 years teams that are in the Big XII have:
1 NCAA Tournament Championship
3 NCAA Tournament Finals appearances
9 NCAA Tournament Final Four appearances

By comparison, in the same time frame SEC teams have:
5 NCAA Tournament Championships
8 NCAA Tournament Finals appearances
13 NCAA Tournament Final Four apperances

You supposedly have to have 12 teams to have a championship game.

If we took out Kansas and Texas for the Big XII and Kentucky and Florida for the SEC, what do those numbers look like?

Correct, but 10 teams doesn't revoke a BCS bid. However, like the Big X and Pac-10 in previous years, the lack of a Conference Championship game can hurt your BCS NC game hopes.

That's too bad. Maybe you should stop posting since you're wrong again?

Big XII
0 NC's
0 Finals
3 Final Fours

SEC
1 NC
2 Finals
4 Final Fours

Pretty much. If I were nit-picky I'd note that the 20 year time frame is convenient since the Texas schools have only recently cared about, and tried to improve on their basketball. I'd wonder what the last 10 years looks like.

Anyway, over the long haul the SEC has done very well. However, if the SEC doesn't pick up their game soon they will have trouble repeating their success. SEC was #6 in conference RPI last year with 2 top-10's, 3 tourney-level teams, and a whole bunch of garbage (including the entire west division)

Little cherry picking.

Make it 25 years and there's another NC (Kansas of course) and a couple more final fours.

But yes, the Big 12 has had some very underwhelming performances in recent years.

I still hope Alden & Company grow some stones and press ahead with the move, but sadly I don't see it happening. I wonder if they'll dust off their pathetic conference unity statement from last summer and just change a couple of words?

Oh well.

:shake:

Is there even any real hope for this though? It sounds like the B12 is staying put with now OU and UT having firm control. I can't imagine MU leaving with the sterotypical midwest loyalty to fault that they exhibit.

Also, the SEC continues to deny that they have offered MU a spot so MU doesnt have a home if they do leave unless they pull an aTm.

SEC also denied they wanted to expand at all, and then denied they wanted A&M. I wouldn't take anything literally at this point.

Still, I fully expect Mizzou to stay in the Big 12 at this point. For some insane reason, Brady Deaton truly believes the Big 12 Zombie Conference is preferable to the SEC.

That is the only reason I have ANY hope that MU goes to the SEC, but I give it a 5% chance.

It allows the ACC to renegotiate their TV contract to the tune of an additional $3 million or so per school per year. So, yes, I think they would have done it anyway.

I think the ACC holds at 14 until they know what Notre Dame is doing. Rutgers and UConn would jump to get into the conference, but I sense that the ACC is willing to wait until they know they can't get the bigger fish...

25 years it looks like:

Big XII
2 NCAA Tournament Championship
5 NCAA Tournament Finals appearances
12 NCAA Tournament Final Four appearances

SEC
5 NCAA Tournament Championships
8 NCAA Tournament Finals appearances
15 NCAA Tournament Final Four apperances

Would be nice if someone would step up and help KU from time to time... LOL