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DJ's left nut 03-24-2022 04:04 PM

Pest! Go get your lube!!!

booger 03-24-2022 04:05 PM

Good deal

OnTheWarpath15 03-24-2022 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16213086)
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I've lost track of how many visits this dude has made, hopefully this is his last one.

staylor26 03-24-2022 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16212999)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Veach the man����*��</p>&mdash; Willie Gay Jr. (@WillieG___) <a href="https://twitter.com/WillieG___/status/1507103584906883076?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably talking about MVS.

Players tend to overrate other players.

Iconic 03-24-2022 04:09 PM

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Oh boy 'The Franchise' is going to explode like my asshole after Taco Tuesday when he sees this

Red Dawg 03-24-2022 04:13 PM

Sign everyone.

The Franchise 03-24-2022 04:14 PM

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IT’S ****ING HAPPENING, ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!

DJ's left nut 03-24-2022 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16213099)
I've lost track of how many visits this dude has made, hopefully this is his last one.

Maybe.

But once guys get into these cycles, they usually end up signing pretty late.

Nobody's eager to make sure he doesn't leave the building without the offer he's asking for. Which typically means he's asking for too much.

Key has never seen a substantial payday. He's going to want to get his bag (and I don't blame him).

If we sign him I'm betting most people won't like the terms. I guess we'll see.

He doesn't seem eager to get things wrapped up though.

smithandrew051 03-24-2022 04:15 PM

This thread has been an emotional roller coaster

DJ's left nut 03-24-2022 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213108)
IT’S ****ING HAPPENING, ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!

Kyzir?

Please?

The Franchise 03-24-2022 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16213113)
Kyzir?

Please?

He’s next. Just watch.

RunKC 03-24-2022 04:19 PM

Would love Arden Key. Think Spags could do a lot for him next to Chris Jones

BossChief 03-24-2022 04:27 PM

He’s a situational pass rusher that hasn’t been a starter since his rookie year and has 9.5 career sacks in 4 years…6.5 of them coming last year and from the inside on stunts beating guards…which brings value. His run defense grades aren’t good, even though he’s had really good coaching. Now, he’s going from team to team trying to get his firm payday.

Trying to be realistic, it seems like a guy that very well could get overpaid and underproduce.

I sure hope I’m wrong.

Sell me on Arden Key, Pest.

smithandrew051 03-24-2022 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16213140)
He’s a situational pass rusher that hasn’t been a starter since his rookie year and has 9.5 career sacks in 4 years…6.5 of them coming last year and from the inside on stunts beating guards…which brings value. His run defense grades aren’t good, even though he’s had really good coaching. Now, he’s going from team to team trying to get his firm payday.

Trying to be realistic, it seems like a guy that very well could get overpaid and underproduce.

I sure hope I’m wrong.

Sell me on Arden Key, Pest.

Can someone please embed this?

https://twitter.com/hutchdiesel/stat...299884545?s=21

OnTheWarpath15 03-24-2022 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16213164)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arden Key numbers on win rate vs. pressure per opportunity:<br><br>Win rate: 14.58% (57th)<br>Pressure/opportunity: 15% (16th)<br><br>True pass set win rate: 22.63% (40th)<br>TPS pressure/opportunity: 23.36% (9th!)<br><br>(This is vs. 205 qualified players)</p>&mdash; Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) <a href="https://twitter.com/hutchdiesel/status/1481763288299884545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 03-24-2022 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16213140)
He’s a situational pass rusher that hasn’t been a starter since his rookie year and has 9.5 career sacks in 4 years…6.5 of them coming last year and from the inside on stunts beating guards…which brings value. His run defense grades aren’t good, even though he’s had really good coaching. Now, he’s going from team to team trying to get his firm payday.

Trying to be realistic, it seems like a guy that very well could get overpaid and underproduce.

I sure hope I’m wrong.

Sell me on Arden Key, Pest.

Untapped potential.
We need bodies.

I'm not saying that we should blow our collective cap load on him but depending on his deal....I'd be happy with him as a rotational piece.

BossChief 03-24-2022 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213169)
Untapped potential.
We need bodies.

I'm not saying that we should blow our collective cap load on him but depending on his deal....I'd be happy with him as a rotational piece.

I’m with ya on all of that. I’m concerned we’re about to give him 8-12m per on a 3 year deal.

The Franchise 03-24-2022 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16213212)
I’m with ya on all of that. I’m concerned we’re about to give him 8-12m per on a 3 year deal.

I'm fine with $8-$10 million per if it's over 3 years with that 3rd year being a team option.

JPH83 03-24-2022 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213169)
Untapped potential.
We need bodies.

I'm not saying that we should blow our collective cap load on him but depending on his deal....I'd be happy with him as a rotational piece.

Genuine question but what do you prefer about him to Ingram? Feels like Ingram is more rounded if a little less impactful as a rusher but much more soild against the run - knows the scheme, probably cheaper. But older i guess.

nychief 03-24-2022 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16213166)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arden Key numbers on win rate vs. pressure per opportunity:<br><br>Win rate: 14.58% (57th)<br>Pressure/opportunity: 15% (16th)<br><br>True pass set win rate: 22.63% (40th)<br>TPS pressure/opportunity: 23.36% (9th!)<br><br>(This is vs. 205 qualified players)</p>&mdash; Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) <a href="https://twitter.com/hutchdiesel/status/1481763288299884545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Woooow.

What the **** does this mean?

The Franchise 03-24-2022 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16213223)
Genuine question but what do you prefer about him to Ingram? Feels like Ingram is more rounded if a little less impactful as a rusher but much more soild against the run - knows the scheme, probably cheaper. But older i guess.

Ingram is older and cheaper. I think Veach has transitioned to bringing in youth and potential.

Titty Meat 03-24-2022 05:05 PM

Yeah no thanks to bringing back Ingram

The Franchise 03-24-2022 05:10 PM

Juju just said on Instagram live that he's not making Tik Toks with Jackson Mahomes. I'm sure people still won't shut the **** up about it though.

Titty Meat 03-24-2022 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213251)
Juju just said on Instagram live that he's not making Tik Toks with Jackson Mahomes. I'm sure people still won't shut the **** up about it though.

Lol you watched that too? He sounds like a valley dude

The Franchise 03-24-2022 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16213263)
Lol you watched that too? He sounds like a valley dude

Yeah I did. LMAO

Well he did go to USC.

poolboy 03-24-2022 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16213125)
Would love Arden Key. Think Spags could do a lot for him next to Chris Jones

Key>Okafor

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2022 05:28 PM

****.. was hoping we got a juju Jackson collab

ThyKingdomCome15 03-24-2022 07:17 PM

Word is Stephon Gilmore is on the the Chiefs radar. That would be a big one.

staylor26 03-24-2022 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16213235)
Yeah no thanks to bringing back Ingram

Wtf?

BleedingRed 03-24-2022 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16213621)
Word is Stephon Gilmore is on the the Chiefs radar. That would be a big one.

3 years ago I’d be excited

-King- 03-24-2022 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16213235)
Yeah no thanks to bringing back Ingram

I'd be cool with him coming back. Only as a backup rotational guy though.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-24-2022 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16213633)
3 years ago I’d be excited

Only playing 9 games last year is concerning, quad and back injuries. With that said if the money is right we can give him the Sammy and CEH treatment. If he starts to get banged up just wrap him in bubble paper and save him for when it really matters. He'd earn every penny in the Playoffs.

Titty Meat 03-24-2022 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16213631)
Wtf?

Defense needs to get younger more athletic. You can't tell me that's not what Veach hasn't done with it thus far this off season.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-24-2022 07:47 PM

Key would take Reed's spot in obvious passing situations. What a disappointment Reed was.

staylor26 03-24-2022 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16213674)
Defense needs to get younger more athletic. You can't tell me that's not what Veach hasn't done with it thus far this off season.

You still need a veteran, as there are no young starting caliber guys available.

In58men 03-24-2022 08:23 PM

MAKE THE TRADE BRUNCH VERCH!

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The Franchise 03-24-2022 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16213736)
MAKE THE TRADE BRUNCH VERCH!

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Get this shit done.

Iconic 03-24-2022 08:32 PM

OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT HIM AND MECOLE CONNECTINGGGGGG

The Franchise 03-24-2022 08:34 PM

Hopefully that Jerry Jeudy tweet doesn’t mean shit. I don’t want him going to Denver.

MVChiefFan 03-24-2022 08:34 PM

Quote:

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MAKE THE TRADE BRUNCH VERCH!

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The #10 is now available!

New World Order 03-24-2022 08:35 PM

C’mon Bartholomew Vertacich get it done!!!!!

Tribal Warfare 03-24-2022 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 16213754)
The #10 is now available!

Retire it for Trent

staylor26 03-24-2022 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213752)
Hopefully that Jerry Jeudy tweet doesn’t mean shit. I don’t want him going to Denver.

He just liked a tweet from Jeudy saying “there’s more to life than football”.

Not the thing you want to see a guy like Jeudy saying though…

The Franchise 03-24-2022 08:39 PM

I hate that Twitter doesn’t let you look at someone’s tweets without having an account. Bullshit ass company.

staylor26 03-24-2022 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213767)
I hate that Twitter doesn’t let you look at someone’s tweets without having an account. Bullshit ass company.

Yup, finally made one just so I can see.

I have no profile pic, follow nobody, and have zero followers.

I don’t know a single person that uses Twitter IRL.

Titty Meat 03-24-2022 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16213773)
Yup, finally made one just so I can see.

I have no profile pic, follow nobody, and have zero followers.

I don’t know a single person that uses Twitter IRL.

Weird. I found your profile on there and see you favorited alot of fart porn vids.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-24-2022 09:07 PM

Laviska appears to be a reliable slot player, a prosessional reciever. Not sure how much that helps us.

RunKC 03-24-2022 09:31 PM

Nate Taylor on Laviska Shenault on Times Ours: “ some people thought that the deal was done when I wrote about it”

Mentioned the MVS signing and talked like that was probably their backup plan but also teased us possibly getting him.

C’mon Veach let’s get that ****er on a deal

staylor26 03-24-2022 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16213865)
Nate Taylor on Laviska Shenault on Times Ours: “ some people thought that the deal was done when I wrote about it”

Mentioned the MVS signing and talked like that was probably their backup plan but also teased us possibly getting him.

C’mon Veach let’s get that ****er on a deal

MVS was their backup plan to Viska?

And who does he mean by “some people”? People in the Chiefs building or listeners/readers?

Tribal Warfare 03-24-2022 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16213865)
Nate Taylor on Laviska Shenault on Times Ours: “ some people thought that the deal was done when I wrote about it”

Mentioned the MVS signing and talked like that was probably their backup plan but also teased us possibly getting him.

C’mon Veach let’s get that ****er on a deal

Lottery ticket draft, liquidating the 29th or 30th pick.

Chiefs will have to strengthen the whole team because of the loss of Hill especially with the DL and DB depth of the 2022 draft.

The Franchise 03-24-2022 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16213868)
MVS was their backup plan to Viska?

And who does he mean by “some people”? People in the Chiefs building or listeners/readers?

I’m listening right now.

And I think he means people being Chiefs fans after he mentioned it on 610.

RunKC 03-24-2022 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16213868)
MVS was their backup plan to Viska?

And who does he mean by “some people”? People in the Chiefs building or listeners/readers?

No Shenault was the backup plan from what I understand

The Franchise 03-24-2022 09:43 PM

He said part of the Shenault trade was contingent on MVS but he thinks it’s still a possibility.

And now that I’m listening to it….I can’t tell who he’s referring to when he says “they thought it was done”.

He said “some people thought the deal was done when I wrote it in the Athletic. Some people. Now others will tell you that nothing has happened.”

RunKC 03-24-2022 09:53 PM

Nate crushing on my dude Jameson Williams. Please God let us get this man.

Don’t give a **** that he tore his ACL.

The Franchise 03-24-2022 09:57 PM

Williams won’t be there at 29 or 30 and I’m not trading up to get him.

BossChief 03-25-2022 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213908)
Williams won’t be there at 29 or 30 and I’m not trading up to get him.

I’d flip the comp pick next year to move up a few spots, but it’s going to take more than that. Crazier things have happened, though. In a perfect world, I’d love to find a way to get Williams, Obajo and Austin without using a pick this year or our first next year to move up. Those would be 3 home runs and I’m sure Veach could make noise with the other 9 picks this year.

Baby Lee 03-25-2022 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16213307)
****.. was hoping we got a juju Jackson collab

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Baby Lee 03-25-2022 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213767)
I hate that Twitter doesn’t let you look at someone’s tweets without having an account. Bullshit ass company.

There's a chrome extension.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...mjbdnjnfcfnlep

Dunerdr 03-25-2022 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16213868)
MVS was their backup plan to Viska?

And who does he mean by “some people”? People in the Chiefs building or listeners/readers?

I feel like MVS should have been the back up but they know more than I. I'm still all in on Shenault at this point.

Chris Meck 03-25-2022 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16213908)
Williams won’t be there at 29 or 30 and I’m not trading up to get him.

No I'd rather nab Pickens or Watson or Pierce in the 2nd.

Dunerdr 03-25-2022 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16214168)
No I'd rather nab Pickens or Watson or Pierce in the 2nd.

I dont know that pickens makes it to us in the second. Theres a lot of talk about him.

In58men 03-25-2022 06:21 AM

Watson and Pickens with the first 2 picks and just load up on defense.

Sign some halfway decent UDFA, we’ll be ready to drop 50 burgers every game with a quality defense.

Just imagine the medias reaction.

Chief Roundup 03-25-2022 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16214068)
I’d flip the comp pick next year to move up a few spots, but it’s going to take more than that. Crazier things have happened, though. In a perfect world, I’d love to find a way to get Williams, Obajo and Austin without using a pick this year or our first next year to move up. Those would be 3 home runs and I’m sure Veach could make noise with the other 9 picks this year.

Austin is 5'8" and 165 lbs. No thanks.

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ThyKingdomCome15 03-25-2022 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16214182)
Watson and Pickens with the first 2 picks and just load up on defense.

Sign some halfway decent UDFA, we’ll be ready to drop 50 burgers every game with a quality defense.

Just imagine the medias reaction.

This crossed my mind yesterday. I'd probably go with Pickens in the first then trade down and see if Watson is there in the second.

Chris Meck 03-25-2022 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16214234)
Austin is 5'8" and 165 lbs. No thanks.

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You haven't watched him.

The Franchise 03-25-2022 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16214360)
You haven't watched him.

Yeah....dude is a weapon.

Chief Roundup 03-25-2022 08:56 AM

Not sure he will be able to stay healthy at this next level.

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scho63 03-25-2022 08:58 AM

Who's left on the FA board of any value?

staylor26 03-25-2022 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16214234)
Austin is 5'8" and 165 lbs. No thanks.

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His RAS comparison to Tyreek is as close as it gets.

Like Tyreek, he’s very rare in that he has elite speed AND agility.

So this would be a pretty ignorant stance.

RunKC 03-25-2022 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16214395)
His RAS comparison to Tyreek is as close as it gets.

Like Tyreek, he’s very rare in that he has elite speed AND agility.

So this would be a pretty ignorant stance.

I like him but he’s tiny. Like smaller than DAT.

Is he gonna last in this league?

Tribal Warfare 03-25-2022 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16214395)
His RAS comparison to Tyreek is as close as it gets.

Like Tyreek, he’s very rare in that he has elite speed AND agility.

So this would be a pretty ignorant stance.

The guy isn't built like a football player while Tyreek is a stout mother****er.

TambaBerry 03-25-2022 09:05 AM

I'd rather have Skyy Moore then Austin

O.city 03-25-2022 09:05 AM

Skyy Moore intrigues me.

staylor26 03-25-2022 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16214409)
I'd rather have Skyy Moore then Austin

I’d take either one.

louie aguiar 03-25-2022 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16214402)
I like him but he’s tiny. Like smaller than DAT.

Is he gonna last in this league?

He'd be a nice gadget player but I don't see him holding up as a 1 or 2 WR. This team has bigger needs on defense - we desperately need a lot of help in the secondary and along the defensive line.

The Franchise 03-25-2022 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16214415)
He'd be a nice gadget player but I don't see him holding up as a 1 or 2 WR. This team has bigger needs on defense - we desperately need a lot of help in the secondary and along the defensive line.

Nobody said anything about Austin being a WR1 or WR2.

Kiimo 03-25-2022 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16214404)
The guy isn't built like a football player while Tyreek is a stout mother****er.

Hill is a unicorn because guys who have those traits are usually fragile.

When Hill was signed I noticed he was more Antonio Brown than DAT

louie aguiar 03-25-2022 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16214417)
Nobody said anything about Austin being a WR1 or WR2.

Then we shouldn't burn a premium pick on him

staylor26 03-25-2022 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16214404)
The guy isn't built like a football player while Tyreek is a stout mother****er.

Yea, that’s why he’s not the next Tyreek. Tyreek is a built like a RB, but it’s still only a difference of 12 lbs or so.

But this offense could absolutely use a player like that, and he’s a good football player regardless.

He’s not just an underwear olympics guy.

RunKC 03-25-2022 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16214409)
I'd rather have Skyy Moore then Austin

Me too. His route running is very good as well as his hands


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