I was trying to understand the logic behind the announcer stating “You want to miss the second one here”.

Thank you, it wasn’t just me drinking tonight. WTF would you miss the second when you could miss the third and try for a rebound? Idiot ****ing broadcasters.

Tough game. Hard to win when your 3 bigs (Ish, BayBay and Tomlin) play 72 mins and account for ZERO rebounds. That’s an amazingly awful stat

Damn, I didn't realize none of them had ANY. I recorded it to watch this morning on the treadmill, so just now getting to the thread, but rebounding and FT's were a mess last night

Correctable mistakes, Big 12 is tough this year, not going to be a cakewalk for any of these teams in the top 6. Cats brought it though, just rebounding and mistakes.

Most likey, imo, the B12 winner will be right around 13-5, and probably more than 1 team at that record

Why do you guys go by EMAW when you could change it to EPAW to be more inclusive, while also invoking a paw like wildcats have?

I’d be very surprised if anyone can get to 13. Kenpom projects four at 11 and two at 10

I’ve seen that, but I still think there’ll be at least one team that breaks away from the pack with 13.

Big12/SEC Challenge Weekend.

Big 12 - 6 wins.

Auburn at West Virginia (ESPN/2), 11 a.m. CT/Noon ET
Iowa State at Missouri (ESPN/2/U), 1 p.m.
Alabama at Oklahoma (ESPN/2/U), 1 p.m.
Texas Tech at LSU (ESPN/2/U), 1 p.m.
TCU at Mississippi State (ESPN2), 3 p.m.
Arkansas at Baylor (ESPN), 3/5 p.m.
Texas at Tennessee (ESPN), 3/5 p.m.
Florida at Kansas State (ESPN2), 5 p.m.
Kansas at Kentucky (ESPN), 7 p.m.
Ole Miss at Oklahoma State (ESPN2), 7 p.m.

Your path to final four is wide open, dudes. Go out and get it.

It’s there, but I’m extremely on edge. KSU Bball tournament history has not been kind to me. I’ll spare you the names of some of the greatest KSU players I ever saw as I go through this.

Example(s)

1971/1972- great team. Big 8 title winner. Beat Texas to make the EE. Lose 72-65 to Louisville in Ames.

1972/73 - Big 8 champs. Win S16 vs SW Louisiana. They had Bo Lamar. Averaged 29ppg. Guy was ****ing great. Cats eke out a 66-63 win. Then get Memphis (State). Gene Bartow was their coach. He would replace Wooden @ UCLA later in the decade. Larry Finch and (ABA/NBA) star Larry Kenon. Memphis played in the title game vs Walton and UCLA.They were unstoppable. 92-72. 25-4. Season over. First time I was heartbroken.

1975 - Big 8 champs. Defeat Penn in the 32. Beat Boston College in the S16 to face off against Syracuse in the EE. Game tied and one of the greatest Big 8 players ever, Chuckie Williams comes down the court and drains a 28/29 footer to give the Cats the lead with 5 seconds to play. I mean it was one of those “NO, NO, NO DON’T SHOOT THAT …. **** YES I KNEW HE’D HIT THAT SHOT !!!! Syracuse inbounds, drives to the lane and hits a 12 footer that bounced 176 times on the rim then fell in to tie it. At. The. ****ing. Buzzer. Lose in OT. **** you, upstate NY.

1977- CATS vs Marquette. In OKC. Coached by Al McGuire. They had Butch Lee and Bo Ellis. They wore uniforms designed by Bo Ellis that were made to not be tucked in. Actually pretty cool stuff. Cats down three with 00:17 to play. Mike Evans puts up a jumper, misses, but Darrell Winston goes high above everybody and grabs it, lays it in and is fouled! ****yea!!!!

But wait - Rule 26(a) was instituted and the basket nullified but two FT’s awarded.

Winston controlled the ball, laid it in and was fouled. So, instead of a possible tie and OT. It was two FT’s. He made them both and Marquette held on for a 67-66 win. Marquette advanced to the FF and won it all. **** you Marquette.

Also, the rule was rescinded 12 days after the 77 title game. **** YOU NCAA.

1981- CATS beat USF then beat #1 seed Oregon State on the famous SI Cover photo of Rolando Blackmon high, high, HIGH in the air draining a baseline jumper with 2 seconds to play. (Jay Randolph on the call for NBC). Knock off Illinois in the S16 and get wasted by UNC in the EE. (Al Wood, Sam Perkins, James Worthy)
My dislike of UNC grew a lot that decade. They played the four corners until the shot clock was instituted and it finally brought the game out into the open floor.

88 - was in The Silverdome to witness it so STFU. That ended the best two decade run in the history of KSU MBB.

2010 - beat N Texas, BYU. S16 the incredible 2OT game vs Xavier in SLS. Then Butler. They were just was so damn tough. Had the lead with 1:00 to play. But couldn’t hold it.

2018 - beat Kentucky in the S16 (I mean .. No biggie we whoop dat ass on the regular—>> joking Rams). And on to Loyola Chicago. And I swear this to you. Had my couch all ready. Texted friends. Life appears great. Was making a sandwich at tip-off. By the time I sat down it was 20-4 Loyola. Game was ****ing over in the first 6 minutes. Just over. **** YOU BRUCE WEBER.


So, unfortunately, I’m forced to take my S16’s with a truckload of salt.


But it would be kinda nice…

Union Station tonight

Oh good pic, bill.

Took if from Union Stations FB thought it was pretty cool though

Jeezus man. There’s no such thing as “wide open path” to a FF

Ask 2011 Kansas

Without my hot take we don’t get that legendary gold star Hall of Classics worthy post from WilliamTheIrish.

This place is better when our quality Cats posters have an EMAW pot to piss in.

You’re too kind. PB mentioned upthread a ways back that the 88 season ending loss (or win for you guys) in the Silverdome was a defining moment for both teams. It’s true. From Brown (greatest tactical guy I thought I’d ever see) to Roy (great teams, great recruiter, snakebit) to Self (great recruiter, best tactician and best player development coach) is just remarkable.

There were other factors but going from Altman to Asbury to Wooly… I mean what the ****? Went 20 years before we won an NCAA tournament game. 08 vs USC.

How is that even possible? But it’s true.

Feels like the equivalent of the Elway loss at home for the Chiefs. I know some point to the Colts loss as being the turning point, but losing to the Donks at home (en route to them finally winning it all) effectively ended the Marty era and kept us without a playoff win for the next 17 years (and a home win for the next 20).

Hopefully Tang wakes up your AD to never settle for less on the bball court again. This is the most electric I have ever seen the Cats (08 and 10 come close, but Tang commands a respect that I’m not sure I saw in those years).

Also said surrendering Ahearn was a massive mistake

Yup.

They love him. Truth be told, so do I.

“To The Apple”!

Open up as a 2 point underdog....I don't know that I understand it, but I like it.

They have IZZO. They knocked off a 2 seed. They play that hard nosed game that has served them pretty well to get through 64/32 through the years. They got hot at the right time.

It’s going to a tough game to win. Really tough.

It's early, but I'm getting the feeling like this is our basketball version of Bill Snyder.

Couple this season's results - with a roster made up of castaways - with the recruits we having coming in (RJ, Macaleab, Dai Dai) and the inevitable TP guys we'll get... and the future is bright.

Now we just need to back up the Brinks truck.

Nice work kittens!

Carry that Kansas pride as far as you can. It's up to you & TX to carry that B12 reign at the top.

FTR, Tuck Fexas! 😉

I never thought that ANY fan base could be worse than Western KS EMAW shirt tucking weirdos that constantly cry about any perceived slight.

Never, EVER say never.

Rupp Rafters will show you that no matter what other fans think & say, it can always be worse.

Had never visited until PB said it was a board that had given him 15 years of hilarity.

That tweet just features all the Kentucky memes all in one. Sleeveless, bald, mantitties, dumb as ****, using Twitter and crying.

Yup, the Purples should be asking Tang what it would take for a LT extension with a hefty raise and escalators for continuing the improvements.

I can't say Tang is my favorite KSU coach, but that's only because Frank Martin is the f'n man.

I really DGAF who wins a tourney after we are out. Or who wins games. Just want to see pimps and KSU has two of them. That was some cold blooded shit at the end. Actually I am lying, I want the blue bloods to lose so Kentucky getting punked was cool. I’m prob rooting for Zags because they deserve one, Few is a good dude who got that DUI after Baylor ruined his perfect season

I’m exhausted. That was so up and down. But they held on and I’m trying to figure out what I’ll have to take to get any sleep tonight.

Fist pump

Is this what it feels like to be a winner and happy in March?

I guess.

Mahomes doesn't play in March.

Pappy Van Winkle whiskey, my friend.

What a game. Man, that was insanely stressful. So many ties and lead changes. Huge game from Nowell, Johnson, and Massoud. Big guys were running on high foul counts all game. Very smart and efficient play by the Cats tonight. Really impressive win. I didn't know what to expect with this game. It did not disappoint.

Go Cats!

Good for the Wildcats and their fans. It was quite a game.

Nowell might have the best vision of any point guard I've ever seen at K-State. He has close to Mahomes level vision of the court out there. Really impressive. Some of those assists tonight were just ridiculous. And he even left the game at one point after a nasty ankle roll.

Nowell can still dish on one leg....LFG :old:

CATS v FAU.

These lads won’t take anyhing for granted. Saturday night

Holy shit man. Cats

One hell of a game played today Kittens! Enjoyed watching that one, now go ahead and finish this run that you're on!

Go ahead and win this, B12 strong!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Better hope that ankle doesn't swell up a lot!

Way to go fellas! Go get it!

Get it Cats!

That game was as up and down as it gets. KSU made some poor decisions to close out regulation, but that same attitude is what propelled them in OT.

JFC, this team is a million heart attacks waiting to happen, and it's awesome. LMAO

I'm rooting for you homos! Nowell is just insane. He had more assists than the entire Michigan State team.

LOL I don't know what Western Kansas shirt tuckers you're talking about, but we're not all bad out here. :p

Yep, you don't get one without the other. Whatever happens, this one was a fun one.

I was only able to catch part of that game but I did see the end. And heard my wife going crazy upstairs. ROFL I have tried to tell her that Tang is a good coach. I think maybe she has been like Chiefs fans used to be. But she's starting to believe.

And that Nowell is fun to watch. I always love watching a great point guard. NCAA assists record, nice! :thumb:

I don't know how far you your team will go but good luck, KSU fans! Except you, kstater. You can go to Hell!

Ksu favored -2

They are about identical teams in Pomeroy

Should be good

They're statistically close, but they play very different basketball.

I think officiating is going to have a lot to do with it.

I wonder if our athletic bigs will be the difference. Seems like Tenn's bigs were lumbering statues compared to the FAU's speedy guards.

We also defend the 3 as well as anyone in the country, so we've got that going for us.

Just need MN's ankle to heal up as best it can and play our game.

Rick Barnes just cannot coach basketball.

Those FAU guys were ****ing slippery, and they could very well give you trouble, especially if your guys get lazy and foul. Physically, you should get some looks.

If your shots are falling and you play sound ball, it would take a hell of an effort to beat you from their talent. That being said, cold streaks happen - especially if you try some of the stuff that worked against MSU and it doesn't work and you press. And there were some really bad possessions against MSU. FAU also had some bad possessions and it took an incredible cold streak from Tennessee to get back in the thing.

The optimistic part is you guys seem to learn on the move. Your defense was horribly tentative early, and then you settled in and got after them. And Tang did some yeoman work designing plays.

It's really weird watching you guys play through the league where you know everybody, and then play a team you've never seen before. Weird shit can happen. But if you guys come in and take care of business, it will be a breezy win.

I said during the game last night that Nowell was having a Mahomes bad ankle game. And he legit did. But the more I thought on it the more I saw out of him and the team as a whole:


Someone else last night mentioned Nowell’s vision, how sees the entire court (and takes advantage of it). He makes absurd passes and shots, all of this is Mahomesesque.

Tang draws up in bound plays like Reid draws up offensive plays. And one of those plays from last week is even named “Mahomes”.

The team as a whole just always seems to have this confidence, and even swagger, never doubting their ability to battle through the rough times and play from behind.


This K-State team is by design emulating/morphing into the Kansas City Chiefs by design.

Change my mind.

There was one play (in OT?) after a timeout. It was where Nowell was talking to the sideline and then suddenly it was an alley-oop. I said to the wife, that looked like a play designed to get the defense off guard. And it worked brilliantly.

Not you, dude. But you know the type.

That's got to be one of the most bad ass things I've ever seen in basketball.

Yeah, we (my parents and I) thought the same thing. Tang said after the game it wasn’t the case, he and Nowell were trying to call two different things and Nowell caught Johnson out of the corner of his eye and, those two having that Mahomes to Kelce off script chemistry (keeping with my argument), just ****ing quick shoved the pass. An extremely quick glance that direction by Nowell before the pass is the only thing that keeps it from being a true no look pass but, he didn’t miss that no looker by more than a hair.

Anyway, regardless if the back and forth was designed or not, it had the same effect, and Nowell and Johnson cashed in on it with an exclamatory alley-oop for a reverse dunk. I was hard. I still am.

It was clearly NOT designed. If/when your guy is sleeping, cut. Nowell is good/aware enough to get him the ball. My son's AAU team kills people similarly and it's never a planned thing.

Also, congrats to K-State fans! Been so fun to watch this team!

LOL I know you're not talking about the Jayhawk fan in the thread. ROFL

I actually don't know the type. Almost all the KSU grads/fans I'm around are pretty reasonable. At least around me. Somehow my wife seems to know a mountain of KSU asshats and they're all from South of Manhattan. I know they're out here though, I've just successfully insulated myself from them. I am unsuccessful at eliminating all douches, but I'm lucky on the KSU douche front.

Man, I am excited. Taking the train up to NYC tomorrow to catch the game with my teenage sons. Going to be fun.

Found this breakdown very interesting.

Taylor is very good at breaking down plays.

I grew up in rural, south central Kansas. Usually these particular gentlemen use “Rock Chalk Gayhawk” as a standard greeting to KU fans.

Coincidentally, I find it much easier to be happy for KSU fans now that I’m out of the area.

I've seen that discussion quite a bit since the game. But I have to be honest, I believe them when they all say it was unscripted. Watching almost every single K-State game this season, that's just how Nowell is. I've said it before, he straight up has unreal Mahomes-like vision of the court. He sees passing lanes that most points guards are incapable of. And he halfway no-looks a lot of his passes in that regard.

Regardless, that was one of the most impressive K-State plays I've seen in a long time. :thumb:

Go Cats!

Game day! Cmon lads!! Do it this time.

Run to the battle!!

We're getting over the hump today.

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That almost bring me to tears to see that recreation after 42 years.

Blackmon has some elevation on his jump shot. Dayum.

Ish got off the ground but Jesus Christ. Blackmon was skying.

How concerned should we be that like 75% of the money is on the Cats and the line isn't moving?

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Man how nervous are you guys LMAO

E8 games are painful. But they’re as intense as FF games are.

this exactly, elite 8 games are the worst for me. Sucks your game went into OT though, could see some tired legs from ksu.