The zone recognition stuff in our system might be the most disheartening stuff I've ever read regarding both KC sports teams. That makes the firing of Moore feel like you just had your peehole swabbed out of gonorrhea but there's still the ass cancer left to treat. This guy is going to make Vermeil's departure look Billy Butler's kitchen.

We laugh to keep from crying around here a lot. Sometimes sarcasm is a better choice than apathy. We all knew the offense was going to be weak this year, but I don't think anybody thought it would be this bad. Omar Infante leads the teams in RBI for crissake.

Butler has totally tanked. Does anybody have the stat on how many DPs he's hit into this year, and what his K to walk ratio is? We know he's hit three homers. He has to be trending towards having the worst year ever as a full time DH.

Moose ....why? This guy can't hit his weight. Why is DM so high on him? Just about every starter has had an 0 for 20 plus slump, including Gordon and Salvey. Infante has been the most consistent, but he's been unreliable with injury bug. Aoki has been a disaster. Esky's bat has been better, but he's been having defensive lapses. Such a mixed bag this year. I'm frankly surprised they've even been in the hunt playing like this, but the whole AL Central is mediocre this year, so we've got that going for us.

I'd much rather get rid of Moore at the end of this year with assets still in place than get rid of him at the end of next year with fewer assets still in place. All I'm saying.

A good GM could do things quickly with what he's inheriting after this season, if brought in.

Two under-25 SP who have proven to be front-line type starters (Duffy and Ventura)
A tremendous under-25 catcher who is a GG defender and plus bat, and is signed long-term, and for peanuts
Great defenders who can be above-average contributors offensively at SS and CF (also under 30 and controlled for several years)
A star-level LF

A top 10-ish farm system with a lot of high-upside arms (Zimmer, Finnegan, Manaea, Almonte, Pedro Fernandez)

Doesn't matter what a new GM would inherit, every single candidate would jump at any chance to be one. Only 30 available and they rarely turn over.

So let me get this straight. By not panicking and trading away all the MiL assets for a quixotic run at a WC play-in game, Moore is showing admirable restraint and suggesting he doesn't fear for his job safety.

Yet, by not trading Shields, Davis/Holland and others at the deadline to bolster the team for 2015-16 (the length of his current contract), and by stubbornly insisting the team will hold tight and play out the string, he's acting as if he needs to at least finish around .500 to keep his job.

So we're NOT going to try to win 88+ games and compete for WC2, but ARE going to try to win 80-83 games?

This is what Year 8 1/2 of the Moore Era is? The GM admits we have too many holes to compete, but won't do anything to fix them?

What madness is this?

I've come to call it Missouri Madness and the shit is contagious.

BTW, Yankees acquired Chase Headley

Chase Heddy?

Well it ain't Chase McDanielson!

That's Headley!

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Keep whoever makes less IMO. I don't know who that is, but whoever it is, thats who you go with as your closer. But yeah, no point to keep both based on their salaries.

Uh no. Trade whomever gets you the most overall value. Part of that evaluation has to include Davis's salary in '15 vs Holland's. But you have to look at the whole package.

I would trade Davis simply because we know that Holland can save games, don't know if Wade has the mental makeup to do that for sure. I would let some other team find out.

Is there really that much difference between completely shutting down hitters in the 9th as opposed to the 8th?

Davis has been downright dominating this year.