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htismaqe 02-13-2025 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17967152)
As xztop123 pointed out, we need to quit paying our players top of the market contracts. We have $71 million tied up in 3 offensive linemen. I was good with all the contracts but now we also will need to pay a LT too.

We need to cut salary where its going to hurt elsewhere. Like paying Bolton a top $ contract for being a great run stopper. We need LB's with more speed to cover the RB/LB's out of the backfield. FTR, I love Bolton as a player but this is just a cap thing. Just like Reid is still at the top of his game but we need to let him go.
You're way over simplifying Bolton's role on the defense. He's the exact kind of player you do extend while letting Trey Smith go somewhere else to underperform.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 08:26 AM
The Rams game is whatever. What I'm very concerned about is 9 pressures against a Lions team with no juice on the DL. Darnold was playing like a ****ing idiot but IIRC Robinson was doing him no favors giving up almost immediately on at least a couple plays

htismaqe 02-13-2025 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17967166)
What's the knock on Robinson? If he is being allowed to move on or not resigned?
He's a guy that's going to get overpaid because there's little supply and a lot of demand. He's about as good as Taylor but will likely get paid more. It's not gonna happen.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967175)
The Rams game is whatever. What I'm very concerned about is 9 pressures against a Lions team with no juice on the DL. Darnold was playing like a ****ing idiot but IIRC Robinson was doing him no favors giving up almost immediately on at least a couple plays
I hear it, but that's also Darnold who loves to hold the football.

I dunno who they can get that isn't ripe to have a bad game here or there. Probably only Stanley who they won't have a shot at, and he's a durability red flag.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 08:29 AM
Need to have a conversation with Pederson as well about why they ultimately gave up on him.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967177)
He's a guy that's going to get overpaid because there's little supply and a lot of demand. He's about as good as Taylor but will likely get paid more. It's not gonna happen.
If he's a $20M per year player, would you rather give it to him or Trey Smith?

Once upon a time I woulda said Trey. But this year, I can't do it anymore. Mahomes needs someone on that backside who puts his mind to rest.

htismaqe 02-13-2025 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17967182)
If he's a $20M per year player, would you rather give it to him or Trey Smith?

Once upon a time I woulda said Trey. But this year, I can't do it anymore. Mahomes needs someone on that backside who puts his mind to rest.
That's a loaded question. I'm not paying either of them. Cam Robinson IS Trey Smith in this scenario. Going to get paid way more than he's worth.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 08:32 AM
That they almost put Kingsley in at LG in the Super Bowl is pretty telling to me. They were going to do that before putting Humphries in.

Says a lot about both players and their futures here.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 08:32 AM
Because if Cam Robinson is what y'all say he is, they wouldn't have traded him for a day 3 pick and ate 7 million to facilitate it, especially since they really didn't have **** all behind him either. Something is up there.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967186)
That's a loaded question. I'm not paying either of them. Cam Robinson IS Trey Smith in this scenario. Going to get paid way more than he's worth.
What do you do then?

Betting on Kingsley and Wanya isn't an answer and I don't see any chance they start draft night without an egg in hand.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967188)
Because if Cam Robinson is what y'all say he is, they wouldn't have traded him for a day 3 pick and ate 7 million to facilitate it, especially since they really didn't have **** all behind him either. Something is up there.
They extended their LT mid-season to a fairly sizable deal.

Gave Walker Little 3-years, $45M in December.

If you could get Robinson for that deal, I 1000% would.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17967190)
They extended their LT mid-season to a fairly sizable deal.

Gave Walker Little 3-years, $45M in December.

If you could get Robinson for that deal, I 1000% would.
Extending Walker Little to a 15 million AAV deal doesn't move the needle at all especially considering Harrison being terrible. Something caused them to give up on him and they really need to figure out what that was before shelling out a 20+ million contract.

tredadda 02-13-2025 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967161)
Former first round pick. Kind of fits Veach's MO. I wouldn't be opposed. They should be turning over every stone they can.
Not would I. If memory serves me correctly when healthy he was one of the better LTs in the game.

htismaqe 02-13-2025 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17967189)
What do you do then?

Betting on Kingsley and Wanya isn't an answer and I don't see any chance they start draft night without an egg in hand.
I personally think Veach does something none of us expect. Like trading for OBJ out of the blue.

Personally, I don't know what I would do. This just isn't a good year to get a long-term solution. If they need a stopgap, there will be more cost effective options available I'm sure. Free agency hasn't started yet. Somebody will get cut that we aren't even thinking about.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967193)
Extending Walker Little to a 15 million AAV deal doesn't move the needle at all especially considering Harrison being terrible. Something caused them to give up on him and they really need to figure out what that was before shelling out a 20+ million contract.
I don't disagree on that. I just hate the thought of entering this draft, having by far the BPA available say as a CB or pass rusher, and being forced to go LT because we didn't get an answer ahead of time.

It's going to take more than just solid LT play to get back to the Super Bowl.


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