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Smed1065 06-22-2017 06:38 PM

Wowzer, crazy ass off season.

Eleazar 06-22-2017 06:43 PM

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petegz28 06-22-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12927504)
Derrick Thomas, Tony Gonzalez, Will Shields, Joe Montana, Marcus Allen >>> Anything Dorsey did

Let's not forget:

Neil Smith, Keith Cash, Kimble Anders, Priest Holmes, Trent Green, Eddie Kennison, James Hasty, Dale Carter, Mark Collins, Christian Okoye and many, many more.

Karl started flailing after Vermiel left.

petegz28 06-22-2017 06:45 PM

so I heard on 610 that Bill Maas is saying that Reid was the man behind the scenes anyway so cutting bait with Dorsey is not as bad as you would think.

Sounds like Dorsey's job was to manage the $ and not much more. And he didn't do that very well, let's be honest.

Hammock Parties 06-22-2017 06:45 PM

King Carl's drafts were average at best, but his free agents leave Dorsey's in the dust.

petegz28 06-22-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12927529)
King Carl's drafts were average at best, but his free agents leave Dorsey's in the dust.

Agreed.

penbrook 06-22-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12927528)
so I heard on 610 that Bill Maas is saying that Reid was the man behind the scenes anyway so cutting bait with Dorsey is not as bad as you would think.

Sounds like Dorsey's job was to manage the $ and not much more. And he didn't do that very well, let's be honest.

So did Reid really draft Hill and Morse and signed all the free agents?

petegz28 06-22-2017 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12927532)
So did Reid really draft Hill and Morse and signed all the free agents?

If you listen to what the guys on or some of the guys on 610 were saying, Doresy was Reid's bitch. Dorsey did what Reid said.

jjchieffan 06-22-2017 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12927504)
Derrick Thomas, Tony Gonzalez, Will Shields, Joe Montana, Marcus Allen >>> Anything Dorsey did

Maybe. But if he hit on Mahomes, that move alone will blow away Peterson. But let's compare his current best. Peters, Hill, Kelce, Jones are already among the best at their position. Terrence Hill looks like he could be too. Parker and Ware have been very good FA pickups as well. And it took Carl more than 4 years to get all the guys you listed. If Dorsey had gotten 20 years like Carl did, then his accomplishments would have likely eclipsed Carl's.

Red Dawg 06-22-2017 06:51 PM

This is Clark screw up. Ballard was here so why now?

petegz28 06-22-2017 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12927534)
Maybe. But if he hit on Mahomes, that move alone will blow away Peterson. But let's compare his current best. Peters, Hill, Kelce, Jones are already among the best at their position. Terrence Hill looks like he could be too. Parker and Ware have been very good FA pickups as well. And it took Carl more than 4 years to get all the guys you listed. If Dorsey had gotten 20 years like Carl did, then his accomplishments would have likely eclipsed Carl's.

Next to starting Grbac in the playoffs, Karls worst move prior to Herm was letting Keith Traylor go.

penbrook 06-22-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12927533)
If you listen to what the guys on or some of the guys on 610 were saying, Doresy was Reid's bitch. Dorsey did what Reid said.

If this is true and I mean if than Reid has really turned his personnel life around. He used to suck at this stuff. Now he's signing free agents like Parker and Mitchell and even got us our very own QB in Mahomey!!

notorious 06-22-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12927536)
Next to starting Grbac in the playoffs, Karls worst move prior to Herm was letting Keith Traylor go.

Keith Traylor killed the Chiefs in the playoff game.


****.

petegz28 06-22-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12927535)
This is Clark screw up. Ballard was here so why now?

Maybe Ballard wanted to leave?

NJChiefsFan 06-22-2017 06:53 PM

It's a different NFL. Carl would be even worse in this era where drafting is even more important. It seems like the spin is that Dorsey was no big deal and Reid is the personnel man anyway seems like hope more than facts.


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