Still a strange move. Only a looming extension makes sense to me right now. I just don’t see the guard tag trade and pay.

Surely they aren’t gonna have the highest paid c and the highest paid g

Just doesn’t seem like a smart move

Right. I thought even before last season that Thuney is not gonna be around much longer. Wouldn't surprise me if they designated him a June 1st cut. I know, that's crazy.

I’m guessing that we trade smith. And I think that’s the best move. Doesn’t this signal that we won’t be active for top tier free agents, even our own and that we plan to fill needs through the draft and later, cheaper FA signings? I think that’s the best strategy anyway.

What team is giving up a draft pick for a guard they have to immediately give a big extension to?

I hope that's what they do, but it's really unlikely IMO.

The Bears.

They desperately need him. They can afford making the move and paying him.

Why wouldn't they just draft a guard? Sending a draft pick AND giving up a huge extension would be so stupid of them I can only hope they'd be that dumb. Crow's proposal would be nice but I still see it at unrealistic.

A team isn’t gonna give more than a 3rd for Trey bc he has to be paid top of market. We also don’t have leverage. They know that $23 million cap anchor is something we don’t want on our cap when FA starts so they can just wait us out.

Bears and Patriots visited with Wyatt Millum this week. Pretty sure they’d rather draft him in rd 2 than give that pick up for Trey and pay him top of the market.

This sounds like a situation where KC wants to get draft compensation THIS season...

There will be a market for Smith..probably several teams looking to sign him. Letting him walk for nothing was what they were facing.

Or Veach really does want to make him the highest paid guard while still not having a starting LT...doesnt make sense but this his job, he knows what he's doing.

Because they have massive needs all along the line, they need an OT, two G, and a C.... They need a bustling block to build around, and Smith is the perfect fit for them. You don't want all your guys becoming free agents at once, need some veteran leadership, and they have defensive needs too.

Veach finna roll into 2025 with our highest average cap hits at LG, C, RG, RT, TE and MLB lol

Can we trade Creed Humphrey?

I would throw a party.

So you didn't want to pay Smith or Humphrey. Neither one, correct?

You would rather get Mahomes killed.

You're literally reeruned.

The reason they would trade for him is the draft is a gamble. Trey has proven himself. Last season the Chiefs gambled at LT. They drafted Kingsley. It didn't pan out. Should the Chiefs just draft another Tackle this season? If there was a proven LT available that would fit financially would it be worth a 3rd round pick? I say yes.

This is very similar to my thought with Jacksonville and Walker Little. Little was 8th on both of those lists for LT's that you posted a couple of days ago. Right where the LT from the Rams was rated.

It's a good plan on either front IMO. Jones or Little.

if you can't have a good LT then you shouldn't have good olinemen anywhere else! /s

I know you’re kidding there, but it is a take many have and I do find… funny.

If you’ve been paying close attn to Veach for the past seven or eight years, you can see what’s coming.

Because there is truth to the take that the Chiefs should not sacrifice getting a sure thing at LT in favor of keeping their RG, because we know how LT play impacts Mahomes.

We’ve seen this movie before though in ‘21. BV isn’t doing just enough on the OL to make you feel decent. He’s going to overcorrect this thing as he deems fit, and I’d bet about anything they already know they can write up the contract they will soon sign their LT to AND keep Smith.

Defense may suffer for it, but writings on the wall fellas. This offseason is all about positioning the offense to dominate again, and they’re going to add youth on the defense that may need to work through some early 2022 growing pains again.

I cant believe Im saying this, has to be the first Balto trade Ive agreed with but the "Trade Smith for Armstead" idea is not only reasonable but makes sense for both teams if Miami is actually looking to start the new guy.

Signing Trey doesn’t feel great for a few reasons.

Looks like Veach chasing the Taylor sunk cost. Taylor hasnt lived up to the contract and now they feel obligated to overpay for a guard. A guard whose style doesn’t really fit well with what Taylor does. Maybe it makes sense if Taylor moving to LT is on the table. Morris or Sumo looks better next to Smith.

Second, tying up more big money on the interior feels like a waste when they’ve invested heavily at the position in recent drafts. The general manager tries to plan for the departure of big money second/third contract players by drafting talent a year or two before. Worked with McDuffie (Sneed) and maybe Hicks (Reid). Hasn’t worked at all on the o or d line.

Armstead can’t stay healthy. He’s worse than Stanley as far as that goes.

I don’t get the appeal there personally.

whats the plan after we lose out on Cam?

I love it, personally.

1st it shows that if you do things the right way and product you'll get paid. Not somewhere else, not where we trade you, but right here in KC. Ball out and get a nice phat contract if you earn it.

2nd it shows we want to maintain the continuity along the line. Thuney is on his last legs so him and Humphries will be the future legs this line is built on. You don't take a huge step forward by taking a huge step back and adding more variables. Lock up a solid player and person and keep this group that respects each other together.

3rd, we have the money. Clark has it, Pat can move it around, and the cap has plenty of elasticity for us. We don't have to be the Saints who've maxed out the credit card and are starting on their 2nd just to make minimum payments. Overpaying to protect Pat is just smarter than overpaying for playmakers or studs on D. We have a top 10 D and probably will now as long as Spags stays on. Keeping Pat healthy is priority no 1.

Patrick Mahomes would retire early like Andrew Luck due to injuries if BWillie was the GM.

Which makes sense bc Ryan Grigson hated investing in OL just BWillie.

No dumby he would just use that money on the franchise LT (no clue how he's going to get him though).

Why would you say such a horrible thing? Are you trying to make the goddamn server crash again?

We are signing Cam Robinson, and damn it, he’s going to play good football!

Would NOT be surprised if this ends with a sign & trade. Non-exclusive tag. Bears come to mind. Hope he stays under a reasonable contract, but a good draft pick(s) wouldn’t be terrible.

Didnt realize that, sounds like hes going to retire anyways.

Looked it up, has never played a full season, yikes.

I think you're underestimating how many teams have more cap space than they have good players looking to sign with them.

I think it's nuts ruling out a 2nd round pick for him.

To draft Trey Smith in the 6th, get 4 good years of play out of him, then flip him for a 2nd would be awesome.

Don't we already have pretty much that right now with Thuney and Creed? But Thuney's deal is almost up and he'll retire soon-either way.

And if your top two WR's are years away from an extension, with your HOF TE probably going one, two years more tops-why does it matter?

Keeping your good offensive linemen seems like a perfectly smart thing to do as long as it's not problematic elsewhere.

And it's not.

yeah, it would be.

I don't think I'm seeing a team want to pay a top of the market RG AND give up an early pick, but what do I know?

The issue is that most teams DONT have a Thuney or Creed and may really want a blue chip IOL.

If you want that and you have plenty of cap space...well, gotta pay to play.

Sure, they'd rather give a 2 for a cheap premier OG. Or pay for a premier OG and not give a 2nd. But to my eyes, neither of those options are on the table.

Trade Trey smith for Allergic Jackson

Sure. Well, you know, maybe. That'd be cool. We'll see, I guess.

Welp. Think this says what the market feels will happen with Trey. Think they know Veach wants to keep him

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> are trading a 6th-round pick to LA for Jonah Jackson. Chicago is taking on the entire contract, which was a 3-year, $51M contract signed last offseason. <a href="https://t.co/MLWWMBDg6F">https://t.co/MLWWMBDg6F</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1896979293240246537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe... but Jackson has been a career LG. Played some OC last year. They might want both. I think it's indicative of the compensation on the market though. We won't get shit for Trey of any substance if Jackson is only worth a 6th.

Is this necessary? Tag him?

Soren Petro said yesterday the Chiefs could’ve traded Smith for a second and a third or a fourth. :rolleyes:

If Veach could get a 2nd and 3rd, I think the deal would already be done. No way he'd be that stupid.

Yeah, well, he's a piece of shit who knows **** all

Veach should be fired immediately if he turned that down.

Has to be nonsense.

Remember, he wanted to trade Chris Jones before his SECOND contract.

Of course it’s nonsense, it’s based on nothing other than his own bullshit.

Captain obvious I know, but Nate Taylor said they want to try to get a Trey Smith deal done by this weekend at the lastest.

He’s fat too

Not sure if Mahomes has any affect on this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trey Smith allowed a career-low 1.5 sacks last season and recorded an average time to pressure of 3.62 seconds, the 2nd-longest among right guards (min. 200 pass blocking snaps).<a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/6iqcqLbeEg">https://t.co/6iqcqLbeEg</a> <a href="https://t.co/KKweCJbl8A">pic.twitter.com/KKweCJbl8A</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1897064015970623922?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And has a bad haircut

Petro might be the least plugged media member... 30 years on, its dumbfounding.


Between that and fact he stopped remembering baseball players in 2001 and will only reference late 90's and early aught Royals.

"He reminds me of DESI RELAFORD.... DEAN PALMER.... REY SANCHEZ...."

Wash rinse and repeat.

:hmmm:

Close.