"Bills fans extremely confident..."



Good morning, CP members. I'm a Bills' fan of 37 years and have been following your site for the last 6 years as basically a casual observer; more so when our teams play each other. I feel like both CP and Two Bills Drive have mostly the same makeup of members/fans. CP & TBD members can post some good info or opinions, as well as some over the top comments. We love our respective teams, I get it.

However, I finally had to become a member of CP in order to reply to this posting, which I felt is not entirely true. If you read the comments from this posted link, it is being extremely cherry-picked. I, like almost all of the members of TBD, are not at all 'extremely confident' in the upcoming game. KC is currently the league standard of success and has been for years; they're the current champ, have a chance to 3-peat, and have had our number in the post season. I think this the best version of the team the Bills will field against KC in the playoffs but until we can finally 'slay the KC post season dragon', there is no overconfidence, I can assure you.

Good luck this Sunday, and may the best team win.

The Texans were never going to be much of a challenge because we had no worry of stopping their offense. Their D was legit and that had a great pass rush and two really good CB's. We just avoided those CB's, played conservative, and waited for the Texans to **** their own day up. They did. They always do.

The Bills aren't all that impressive anywhere on defense. We should be able to exploit whatever area we target or emphasize. The running game may be hit and miss with Thuney at LT but Hunt can just will us to 3rd down conversions in short yardage when we really need them.

Worthy should once again have success and further spread those cheeks for everyone else. I think it's a higher scoring game than most think. 31-24 or something like that.

Sure bout that, partner?

KC doesn’t scare me at all. Ravens were a lot tougher opponent than KC will be this year.

I’m more concerned about the refs.

We just played the toughest opponent.

Yes, I feel very confident.

To us, we already know Josh is the best player in the league. After next week and the super bowl, he's going to be undeniable.

Chiefs feel like a wounded animal that we're more than capable of bringing down.

We’re winning this game.

I think the ravens were the far more difficult matchup. arrowhead is an equalizer but I like our chances

chiefs are more vulnerable than ever

We got this

the Bills are flat out more talented

Baltimore was more of a test than KC. I feel good about next week.

I think we should beat KC this year

I feel supremely confident. I expect to win this game.

***** yes, we gonna beat those lucky mutha *****as at Arrowhead.

I have never been more confident ahead of a KC game than I am this year and Balt was the biggest matchup concern for me of anyone in the playoffs. Bills by 2 scores over KC!

Good.

It doesn't hurt unless you actually really believe it....

16 out of (currently) 80 replies? Less than a quarter but whatever suits your narrative, I suppose.
We both know that it's not about what the fans feel, it's the players. I highly doubt anyone on the Bills roster is feeling overconfident. This will be the toughest game on the schedule to date.

The pressure is all on Josh this game. He's the engine - he's the offense now. They've got a solid HB that can do damage but everything hinges on how Allen plays.

I assume they'll start off running the football, owning LOS, and taking a shot here or there to get him warm early. If that works they'll keep it up and if not they'll go full "save us Josh, save us" mode....

did cooper even play against baltimore? dont think he made one catch lol

You said “there is no overconfidence.” Didn’t take me long to find 16 examples of overconfidence.

It’s to be expected. Most fans on that board were predicting a blowout last postseason. It was only after the game that the excuses started to fly.

We're definitely dropping more than 30, it's going to take that to win this.

That message board as a general rule lacks all self awareness.

You seem pretty confident - dare I say, overconfident - about your math and your takes.

Typical TBD Bills fan. This hubristic attitude of yours seems out of place.

This about sums it up. But I think the most important factor is the Chiefs D line winning in the trenches. If Allen has all day to throw in clean pockets, we’re done. This also includes slowing James Cook, who is largely responsible for the success of their offense.

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Patrick is Freddy Krueger evidently

Haven't gone back to look, but it seemed like BUF converted a crazy amount of 3rd long plays in the last matchup.

Mahomes to the rest of the NFL.
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Someone might want to inform the Bills fans Patrick Mahomes' worst season EVER is a loss in overtime of the AFCCG. If they think they are gonna stroll into Arrowhead for an easy win they have something else coming. I fully expect a 4th quarter game. I will take the best postseason QB the league has ever seen and Andy Reid when the lights are brightest in the 4th quarter.

The thing about Josh that I think will be more difficult to deal with is that he is beginning to understand that he doesn't have to be superman. Like Patrick has learned, take what's there, limit the mistakes and make the occasional amazing play. Stopping Cook and the TEs is going to be the key to this game.

I still don't understand why people think that the Chiefs are holding back anything. It's like people saying that Wile E Coyote was holding back all of his great ideas. This is the Chiefs offense; long drives, chew the clock, don't make mistakes and get points. The league has decades of seeing Andy Reed and seven years of Patrick. Just what sort of magic are you expecting? An end around in the red zone that loses 10 yards? Refusing to throw the ball into the endzone immediately after a huge return? Football seems pretty simple however as the Ravens showed us the last two years, trying to do the unexpected instead of what you are good at doesn't seem to work out very well.

Interestingly, the Ravens outgained the Bills in pretty much every stat, much like the Texans did with the Chiefs. Yet, Bills and Chiefs win. Why? Because their opponents made a shit ton of mistakes and basically ****ed themselves...as they usually do.

So, the Chiefs and the Bills are by any measure the best 2 teams in the AFC. The margins are slim. When it comes down to it, who usually finds a way to win, and who usually finds a way to lose?

Chiefs are going to the Superbowl again.

Pat knows that if he loses the narrative will that Allen is the best player in the NFL and that Pat is washed even if Bills don’t win the SB on top of being so close to the three peat I would be surprised Pat comes out flat .

Geez, that sounds familiar.

Who really cares what opposing teams message boards think? It doesn’t affect the outcome of the game. Let them get over confident. They’ll probably be putting the suicide nets out over Niagara Falls Saturday night.

The one thing we do have that’s a wrinkle is the addition of Brown. This should be a whole new look offense.

Top rushing team left in the playoffs.

Not too scared of their individual pass catchers.

We were missing like a quarter of our starters last time we played them

not the case this time

If either team gets their asses kicked, it'll be Buffalo.

This is Buffalo’s best chance at a SB since :13. Allen will break himself if needed to win this game.

Firing up the smoker?

Sounds like a good idea if it wasn't so darned cold...

I still struggle to hate Buffalo.

I like Josh Allen. I even like Sean McDermott and his weird terrorist sympathizing. I kinda like Cooper getting away from Oakland and then Cleveland. I've always like Samuel. I like most of their defense (Von Miller excluded).

Cook getting out of Dalvin's shadow is a fun story.

Their fans are no different than we are -- they just haven't had the recent titles. Historically it's hard not to like Kelly/Thomas/Reed/Bruce/Levy.

I can't bring myself to hate the Bills.

But I absolutely think we're a better football team.

Looks like we got another rfaulk here. Acts cordial but really us just waiting to rub it in our faces if the bills ever win a playoff game against us. ...note the passive aggressive jab about the narrative that he supposes...

This game really makes me nervous.

I think the defense can hold Buffalo to 24 or less, the issue is, the offense is bi-polar and def came out rusty this past weekend for sure.

If we get the offense we saw in Pitt or in the first Texans game, that would be great. But the offense has just sputtered most of the year, then found a way in the 4th.

The problem was, when the defense wasn't stopping the Bills the sputtering on offense means we lost by 9.

This game will be tougher than the SB because neither the Commanders or Eagles are as good as the Bills. This is it.

After the first game, wasn't there some discussion about the bills copying what the chargers did in how the rushed mahomes? Cause after I saw discussion about this, I thought, they played their hand too soon.

Oh, and we’re gonna need to get production out of our WRs. 48yds between Worthy, Brown, and Hopkins is just not going to cut it.

Bruh you literally had an avatar making fun of them just a couple years ago because you had really started to hate them after the Hamlin shit. WTF happened? Lol.

Don’t worry, I hate them enough for both of us. Buncha dildo throwing, table smashing mongoloids.

You don’t understand? When the Chiefs have shown a history of holding back plays and unleashing them in the playoffs?

Did we see the Chiefs spamming Tom and Jerry/Corn Dog in the regular season to pump up red zone conversions during the regular season the past two years? Or did they break those out for key spots in the playoffs?

Did we see the Chiefs spamming run-pass options with Mahomes before the playoffs, ever?

You’re going to tell me they haven’t worked out a counterpunch to the “crash the line with power rushes to the QB’s left hand, spy prepared to chase Mahomes when he scrambles right” tactic the Chargers pioneered and the Bills used in many key spots in the regular season?

It’s one of the reasons KC has been able to amp up its red zone efficiency so much in the playoffs, even back to the 2019 run. They had what was, to some, concerning “conversion rates in the red zone, and then in the playoffs they turn into an ultra efficient red zone TD machines while breaking out shit from a Rose Bowl in the 1940s.

Spagnuolo has done it, too - saving a major tendency breaker look for a must-have spot in the postseason.

People expect some new wrinkles because new wrinkles have come out every year.

You said it. If the Chiefs lose to Buffalo it seems likely they go on to win the SB. People don’t wanna acknowledge it but they’re the most complete team left and Josh Allen is unbelievably hard to stop. It would suck seeing them hoist the Lamar Hunt trophy in Arrowhead but if it happens I won’t be watching so **** them. Chiefs will need their “A” game to beat them.

Chiefs offense hadn't been on the field for nearly a month. Rust was clearly a factor.

Nah, rfaulk34 is here all throughout the year - he’s a CP regular. This dude is just another opposing fan coming here to “talk football”, but what he really wants is for us to suck his Team’s dick. It happens every year with every team we face in the Playoffs. Starts off nice and playful, and then when we don’t bend the knee to their team, they start getting angry and it turns into a poo throwing contest. Not even worth acknowledging, IMO, because their “insidery analysis” can be plucked off any fan site/blog and it’s generally worthless. It’s why I just stick to my own, and don’t go trolling on other message boards :)

You beat me to this! I'm so confused. DJ was spitting venom toward the Bills.

I don't mind Buffalo at all. I actually like Josh Allen and love the way he plays. They have a good fanbase, they're a small market team, and they've had years of heartache. At the playoff game last year their fans were - with the exception of one guy - completely friendly and gracious.

But yeah, like DJ, I thought they'd be the better matchup for us so I'm happy we get to meet them again.

This offense is as healthy as it has ever been this season. Buffalo does not have the pass rushers or secondary to defend KC like the Texans did. I expect KC to score enough to win, but they won’t be the 2018 version of this offense.

Stephon Diggs should be required to watch in attendance, either way. EVERYBODY wins

Why did you think Buffalo would be the better matchup?

This is the worst defense we will have played since the Raiders five games ago. I still don’t see why we don’t score at least 30 points unless we just don’t need it or have too many self inflicted mistakes. I get we haven’t been doing that but between the healthiest and most complete we’ve been on offense all season and a presumed backlog of effective plays we’ve been saving we should be able to move the ball with great frequency.

Hollywood Brown & Deandre Hopkins had 0 catches against the Texans. Andy will turn them loose against Buffaloes. Success!!!

I know. But then I realized that I still hate the Bengals fans more than them in all that.

Yes, I'm always going to mock their Vaginitis for that whole Hamlin thing. And I still laugh when I see that guy playing for them because he is BAD at football and the only reason they haven't cut him is because of the PR blowback (they KNEW he was bad at football before he died on the field, now they just pretend he isn't).

But there isn't a franchise/fanbase in sports with a closer parallel to the 2017 version of the KC Chiefs and their fans. Right down to their hatred of New England (I mean c'mon, throwing dildoes at Brady is just classic).

They'd be our cousins to the East if we didn't have to go through them. And vice versa -- they embraced us as the guys to end the Patriots dynasty until we actually did it.

Of them, Baltimore and Cincy, it's just not a close question. To say nothing of our Division rivals. They're just much less hateable than those guys.

Hope so. That Buffalo defensive backfield is horrendous. May be the worst one we've ever seen in the playoffs, especially if Rapp is out and Johnson is still nursing whatever happened to his shoulder.

Buffalo is not the most complete team left. KC, despite being weak at LT does not really have many weaknesses. Philly is also solid in all phases. Josh Allen is very difficult to stop, I do agree with that. But so is Mahomes and I will take the guy who has three SB rings and a 16-3 playoff record until someone knocks him off.

Bills safeties are a rookie and Hamlin now that Rapp is out. Huge mismatch. Their DL is good but not anywhere close to the Texans. 3rd down defense is one of the worst in the league. They don’t have a big time star like a Chris Jones or Trent McDufffie.

I think we are going to go off on these guys. The opportunities are going to be there. A lot. The offense is gonna be lethal against these guys.

Ravens made tons of mistakes that kept them from scoring 30+ points and that’s exactly what the Bills do. They play Alex Smith ball but run it far more.

Get up on these guys early, force them to pass and we win by 10+ points.

They rely on turnovers. They rely on the run game.

The team just looked so vanilla in that matchup, though.

But yeah - ain't gonna have a good time next week if Brown and Hopkins get shutout and 90% of our receiving yards to our WRs comes on throws behind the LOS.

The offense has to be better. I just don't know at this point what to say about it. My position has been all year that it's Mahomes that makes it all make sense, for good and bad. When the offense isn't good, it's largely because he isn't. When it's good, it's because he is.

And what decides if he's good or isn't is just a complete wild-ass guess at this point.

The games really weren't comparable at all.

Houston outgained KC because they had two more drives. Basically three more because the first Chiefs drive started at the 13.

KC averaged about 3.3 points per drive and Houston 1.5. Yards per drive were about the same. Chiefs had a bunch of return yardage.

The Bills were basically dominated by Baltimore and lucked out thanks to TOs and dropped passes.

Was it a function of turning them loose or deciding who you are going to let beat you? The way the Texans covered Kelce (or better, didn’t cover him) kinda answers that, IMO. It’s like they took away DHop and Hollywood and said beat us with the old Man and the rookie…and we did. I don’t know. Maybe I’m way off on that analysis.

Last night instead of choking, Josh got choked(literally)at the goal line. Subliminal message time!

Yeah I don’t get that at all. As far as complete teams they are easily behind us and the Eagles. Their defense is bad, mostly relying on other teams committing turnovers to even be relevant, and their WR group has no one that presents any elite challenge.

It's all relative.

If Buffalo beats us, I suspect the crowing of their fans will have me turning against them the same way I turned against Boston fans (who were the enemy of my enemy w/ the Yankees) after they beat the Cardinals in the 2004 World Series.

I went into that Series content that if they beat us, at least I didn't hate them.

Then by the end of the series I hated the entire franchise and city. It could well come to that with Buffalo as well.

But as it presently stands, they're just too much like us.

Nah **** the Bills, guys.

I just can NOT ****ing stand darling teams who get media funerals when they're eliminated.

No, it's not about the history, either. It's about Josh Allen entirely. "We deserve to keep watching Josh Allen!" It was its worst in the 13 second game, but it hasn't gone away. Even when the Bills looked like complete dookie in the Damar season they got the treatment.

Detroit got eliminated. Nobody said things like the NFL isn't getting the playoff matchup they deserve by them being eliminated. Nobody whined about how fun they are and how we're being deprived of that. And this doesn't apply to Detroit, but goddamn the media crocodile tears after 13 seconds. The crying. I can't stand it. Nobody inflated how well their QB ACTUALLY played or said he outplayed the other QB even though they were pretty much even.

How can I hate an historical lovable loser fanbase located in an economically depressed city that just keeps on ticking, donates to charity a bunch, and just loves their local football team? That's how.

****'em. Not just because they stand in the way of the Chiefs. I mean just plain **** the Bills. Because **** them.

If we get a lot of long sustained drives Josh might force things especially if they are behind , hoping for a mistake or two if we fall behind they are just going to run him and cook and play keep away , need to start fast

We’re going to knuckle **** their taints

It was definitely them deciding to focus coverage on the WR. I think we realized that quickly and removed basically every WR route from the middle of the field to allow Kelce as much space as possible.

I appreciate the Texans unleashing Playoff Kelce. It was an absolute pleasure watching him dice up their D :)

The Bills defense isn’t in the same universe as the Texans. Not even close.

The Texans have the best pass rush duo in football as well as an All-pro CB and very good rookie CB.

There’s a reason we struggled last week. Those guys are ****ing monsters.

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Buffalo isn’t doing this with Rousseau and 40 year old Von Miller. The Ravens OL has struggled a lot and even they gave Lamar tons of time.

Again. The Texans had the best defense of any playoff team by the numbers and it showed. The Bills are not the Texans. Not even close.

Man they lead the refs favoritism charge more than anyone. They complained for days about how lucky we were Mixon was on the injury report while never acknowledging Flowers being out. For years now they’ve been saying they are actually the better team with the better QB and the only reason we beat them is refs and luck. We were never like that at all and never felt completely entitled like they do.

Evidently, I don't see it. What i saw in those situations was using plays that took advantage of the defensive alignment. Or in the case of the Texans game, blitzing against their offensive line because their prior drive consumed most of the 3rd quarter and the defense didn't have an answer. I didn't seem any efficiency on the first two drives against the Texans. Wouldn't have made sense to get TDs instead of FGs in that situation?

I find the narrative that the Chiefs are going to turn into Acme and break out all of these amazing plays to dazzle the opponent dumb.

It is kinda nice that we haven’t been overrun with Bills turds on the forum just yet. Maybe it’ll come later in the week.

After Justin Tucker's dive this year. Kelce needs some pre-game time with Tucker(hehe) Bass

I hate Bengals fans far more than any other fan base so that's not really a fair comparison for me.

I want to say I hate Bills fans but jumping through tables, fingers in buttholes, throwing dildos, and covering each other in ketchup and mustard isn't just weird, it's kinda sick. The situation between the two teams might be similar but they're not like us.

Sounds like someone just hasn't had the right finger in his butthole...

I wouldn't say the Texans game was a bad offensive performance. They were a little rusty to start, but 23 points in 7 drives is pretty good. And like Chris Simms said, it kind of throws off the gameplan to start in the red zone.

3.3 points per drive. Scored on 5 of 7 drives vs a great defense that was built to exploit KC's weakness. The same effort probably translates to 30+ vs the Bills. Their defense isn't even close to Houston's level.

Level headed review.

LMAO

isnt this the fanbase that throws dildos on the field?

I'll give Bills fans credit for one thing.

Throwing dildos? Weird.

Throwing dildos at Tom Brady? Objectively awesome.

If that's how you read it, of course it's ridiculous... and nobody has ever said that.

For starters, they still have to execute... there might be subtleties/wrinkles to a play that aren't noticeable because they aren't merry go round huddle crazy, but they might still get blown up by the defense. The other team still shows up, even if the play is something they haven't run all year.

Sometimes it does completely fool a team, like corndog multiple times in the SB, then it looks like magic.

Of course if you take all the nuance and football out of the argument, it's a silly argument.

They're the Broncos with a better running game and QB but way worse defense.

You have to wonder if the Ravens DC found something that worked in this game.

They may have copied our two-high plan from last January.

Gonna guess Spags rolls that out again to limit deep passing and in the second half gets more aggressive in key spots.

I kinda like the Bills. When we aren't playing them, I like seeing them win. Having a strong Bills team is good for the league.

But we are playing them. Our coaches will have something special for them. And we will snuff out their hopes and dreams. Again.

Their defense almost purely opportunistic. They couldn't force the Ravens to punt a single time. Jackson and Andrews basically gift-wrapped the game for them.

Protect the ball. Convert in the red zone. Send them packing.

Yeah, I would be willing to bet they don't blitz much early.

Cool.

Go drink an antifreeze smoothie.