Creed and Bolton up for contracts next year.

Creed had the 2nd best pass protection grade of all OL last season, pretty sure we'll pay him but not like OC is expensive. Same with ILB.

Sneed owes Veach serious favors for letting him go for that return.

T Hiiggins? X Howard?

T Hiiggins? X Howard? Zeke? Boyd?

I agree that L'Jarius Sneed should give Brent Veach a handjob!

Feels like we lost our leverage when he declared he wants to be the highest paid CB in the league, teams knew we couldn't pay him what he wanted.

If only you could be our GM. Bet we'd have won at least 3 SBs in the last 5 years.

I bet you can throw a football over those mountains.

Not sure about “great talent”, but some of the remaining free agents…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still a lot of great talent left in free agency:<br><br>- S Justin Simmons<br>- CB Stephon Gilmore<br>- LB Jadeveon Clowney<br>- S Quandre Diggs<br>- S Julian Blackmon<br>- WR Michael Thomas<br>- QB Ryan Tannehill<br>- CB Xavien Howard<br>- CB Tre White<br>- DL Calais Campbell<br>- CB Adoree Jackson<br>- S Jamal Adams… <a href="https://t.co/QdigWbot3c">pic.twitter.com/QdigWbot3c</a></p>&mdash; JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1771357190697128021?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes the Bengals are going to trade us Higgins…JFC….

It’s not just that. I think the entire league will not make fair market deals with KC at this point. It puts handcuffs on the Chiefs every year. KC is forced to let guys walk or give them away for joke level compensation.

I want Tee Higgins and Justin Jeffersun

WHAT!? Why not just let him play on the tag for a season!?

I'm having trouble processing this deal lol

There was no guarantee we get a third round pick.

Was Davis demanding a huge contract and has a dodgy knee? If not then it's not the same.

I have a sharp set of knives held in reserve.

Don't worry.

;)

Maybe there were 30 million reasons...

Or a 100 million, hard to keep track.

Terrible, would've rather we kept him this year on the tag and then let him leave after next year and get a comp pick. terrible

Like I said…. This cap space is for extensions for our star players

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> loved Sneed as a player and person. But others — Creed Humphrey, Nick Bolton, Tre Smith, et al. — are coming up on extensions too. KC needs cap space and is now in line for a high comp pick. <a href="https://t.co/c2z7yuuT2H">https://t.co/c2z7yuuT2H</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1771397867233804579?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We still have a top 5 secondary even without Sneed, so the handwringing over this obviously necessary trade is hilarious. Way bigger needs elsewhere on the roster. We need the ****ing money.

Think about what you're saying for a moment. Do you believe a GM is going to compromise his job/organization in order to blackball the Chiefs? Cmon dude.

I can think of a number of teams where the GM’s #1 job is blackballing the Chiefs.

This is crazy talk.

No one outside of KC knows who Bryan Cook, Jaylen Watson, Josh Williams and Chamari Conner are.

McDuffie is a star, and Reid is a plus starter, but the rest of these guys are just OK players. If any of those players had to go cover Tyreek Hill for some reason we're ****ed.

The Chiefs will be just fine on defense but holding teams to 10 and 7 points in the postseason is likely a thing of the past.

My only guess is Sneed's knee was troublesome. IDK, it's rare Veach loses a trade.

Happy for Sneed came here played his tail off 2 Rings and Chiefs get a little something back for him.

I haven’t read the whole thread, but the only universe in which this trade makes sense is the one in which Veach thinks the Chiefs will get less than a third in a comp pick. So we can conclude Sneed’s knee is rotted hamburger.

Man, I hope this is the truth. Because this trade looks gross from the outset.

Letting Snead walk for a bag of beans seems like a decision to focus more on the long-term than the 3-peat. Veach thinks signing Donovan Smith for another $9 M, Danna for 7 and extending Humphrey was better long-term than having a deep and talented secondary for the 3-peat. Having only $7 M to sign an LT and bring back some other players is not a good place to be. Drafting as late as we are, maybe there was a fear that all strong OTs would be gone and we would have been left with s project like Niang. So, Veach can pay D Smith another 9 or 10 M to compete with Morris.

Maybe he is right. This trade now opens the possibility that we take a corner at #32 if there is a run on the WR and LT positions. Or, they think they can find another Sneed in the 4th round again. Watson and Williams are okay at CB, but Veach needs to hit on at least one or two strong DBs this draft to give us the depth we need in the absence of Sneed.

Trades don’t get comp picks. Based on the contract, the Titans think he will be a star for the next few years. Based on the trade, the Chiefs think he’ll have a bad 2024 and be out of the league the year after.

One possibility for the Chiefs shipping a great player for mediocre compensation may be that Hunt doesn’t want to write another big check this offseason. The cap is one part of the equation but dollars are dollars. Sure, Clark has a lot of money and could obviously afford it but that doesn’t mean he wants to spend more after giving Jones and Mahomes lump sum payments. And knowing he’ll have big payments coming for Creed and Bolton next season.

This is total speculation but is it possible Hunt told Veach he wasn’t going to write checks for both Jones and Sneed and Veach only had so many 2024 dollars to spend?

Just trying to come up with a reason to explain this move. I have always thought that you get so few opportunities to hold an all-star team together you should just go for it, but all we can hope for now is that the offense returns to form and the defense stays a top 10 unit and someone else can make the plays we’ve counted on Sneed to make.

Did Sneed play himself here? Held out for top dollar until all the suitors but one moved on. And ****ed us in the process too of course, but it seems like if he was willing to sign for $19M two weeks ago it would have got done with Detroit or Indy.

And I've seen people calling Tennessee an AFC contender in this thread, but I don't see that at all. They were 6-11, lost Vrabel and Henry, and overpaid a bunch of middling to above average FAs (excepting Sneed). And their QB is still Will Levis. Sneed is about to see how the other half lives. That's actually the one silver lining in this shit sandwich, I think that 3rd next year will be a top 75 pick.

Did anyone outside of KC know who Sneed was before this year? Hell, before this last years playoffs even?

Peters was a dickhead who didn't like to hit or tackle.

Sneed is an awesome human being who loves destroying wide receivers.

I guess with the number of players slated to become free agents next year, the more draft picks the better, but a 7th round? Oh well, I have trust Veach has something in sight that we do not.

This. But I'll still never understand why keeping Sneed on the tag for the 3-peat wasn't an option. NFL history man. He would have played.

I'm gonna assume Sneed would've refused to play on the tag, otherwise keeping him would've been the strat here.

Watch Bolton etc leave next year as other teams play hardball with us


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Glad it's over at least. Compensation sucks but keeping players next year is important. We can 3 peat without Snead. He wanted money and he got it.

We had no money. So compensation we had no leverage. Glad Titans paid the contact needed. Veach has 3 rings. We will be fine. We all knew it was Jones or Snead. We kept Jones. Be happy.

I'd kinda resigned myself to us losing one of Jones or Sneed, so I can live with it. I'd also much prefer him going to the Titans than the Colts or Lions. There's absolutely a world where Veach and the Chiefs come out smelling of roses. If we get the 3-peat, if Sneed's knee gives up, if we draft the next great CB in the later rounds, if we use the cap space to find some hidden gems that end up being crucial depth. It could all happen...

But right now I can't see how anyone can objectively defend the trade. It is a sh***y deal. We absolutely could have kept an elite CB for a historic 3-peat attempt. If not, we definitely didn't need to tag him early and limit our FA options. We managed to find the one truly dog-s*** outcome. Just obviously bad management.

I hope Chris Jones plays out of his skin, because that was not a home town discount, at all.

Man i hope this “his knee must be shot” garbage makes people feel better. I mean do ppl not watch the games

Like just say we got played. It happens. Sneed hasn’t missed a game bc of this so called career threatening injury. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t rock up to the Titans press conference on crutches.

He’s going to be a massive loss. I will miss Mc Duffie teeing off next year when he’s required to run with the gun WR 1s.

Play or don't play on the tag, it doesn't really matter, as we get no help this year either way.

Pretty much shit trade with it being a 2025 3rd. The ****ing Bucs got more for a worse CB. That sucks. I'm just reading into it but there has to be something with his knee that has both the Chiefs and other teams nervous. The Tits have the space to take the chance.

Sneed traded to Titans
 

Other teams know that Clark is cheap, won’t pay his players. The tag on Sneed was a mirage because he was never going to pay him, not even for a year. Result - shit comp.


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Garbage. Not even the third this year.

Let's look at it like this, we took a 4th round pick (Sneed) and got the best 4 years out of his career, used it to win 2 superbowls and then traded it for a 3rd.

That's win!

I agree and given the choice we had, I think we did the right thing. There’s no way we could have paid him what he wanted and compete. Sure there will be a drop off, but I believe we have a stable of competent corners. He got his rings and now he wants to get paid. Fair enough. I get it’s a business and he got what he wanted.

Now let’s see what we can do with the cap space.

Exactly this! The patriots way, was they just let those players walk and got nothing out of it. It was a win.

Agreed!

This wasn't on Clark......

Could have engineered it so he could have played on the tag


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Not Clark's job to engineer anything.... it starts with a V and sounds like beach.

I knew not to expect a lot back after the Carlton Davis trade but this is just awful. Wow

Sneed was never part of our future plans. That’s why CJ95 got the bag. We have a wealth of riches at DB. You’d rather roll with Morris at LT and have Sneed, or have a better LT, and the rest of the cornerbacks on last years youngest defense in the league? Protect Mahomes, AT ALL COSTS! We’re stacked at db, let Peach cook!

It sucks that we don't have more ammo for this years draft but if the chiefs knew they weren't going to pay him it was the right thing to do to let him get paid elsewhere. Sneed earned that much with his performance.

Teams are on to Veach. It's going to be a lot harder to pull off bargain deals when in dynasty mode. Seems teams aren't even willing to pay market value.

Veach cooked.

They got a 3rd round pick, the ONLY 3rd round pick that the ONLY team willing to sign Sneed had available.

Unless you thought he was worth and getting a high 2nd (#38 overall), what else did you want? Colts, Lions, all these other rumored teams had more reasonable 2’s but there was no contract for Sneed there.

In the vacuum of take the best return that the only team willing to pay/play Sneed, I think they did just fine. If the Titans had a 2024 3rd, maybe we get it, but that simply doesn’t exist. I suppose if you want to belly ache you can be annoyed we didn’t net an extra 7th rounder - the Chiefs 7th rounder lol literally the last pick in the entire draft not counting 5 compensatory picks. Now they can get off the draft board earlier and start working the phones for UDFAs. See? Winning.


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Lol.

Thanks for the laugh. I had a rough day yesterday. I needed that.

This is dogshit, and there is no spinning it otherwise.

Sneed was rewarded. I think I might want to be a part of an organization like this. My retirement was not sold out for a gamble return

Willing to bet there has never been a franchise tagged player in NFL history traded for less. If teams are going to refuse to do fair business with the Chiefs, Veach needs to just stop making calls and only work with the select teams that don’t try to screw us in every deal.

This is a travesty. Everyone thinks Jones is the heart and soul of the D, I think we just lost the guy who was just as much so. Thanks for the memories, LJ. You will be truly missed.

I.... What? Do you know what an owner actually does?

The last thing we need is Clark acting like Jerry Jones and taking control away from Veach.

If his knee is bad enough that we had to sell so low then it should be bad enough to fail the physical or at least not be worth giving $55mil guaranteed. Whole thing makes no sense

Errr

Didn’t he step in to get Jones paid ?


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Defense won this Super Bowl, and so far are being treated like it

Those teams just offered less or nothing at all.

The return isn't great in this deal but there wasn't a better offer out there. It should seem obvious that the Chiefs valued the cap space and moving up in a couple of rounds of the draft more than Sneed and his cap hit this year.

Dumb question, do we get a comp pick for Sneed as well?

Yes it is but we clearly needed the cap space

Wow...
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Can’t believe Veach turned down better offers that didn’t exist and took this one. Should’ve just let him play on the tag and not filled out the roster or be able to make any attempt to extend players that should be part of the future.

Don’t ever change CP, this place still has it.

Would be great to look at how all the other CB Free Agent deals match up to what we got.

I hate losing Sneed am happy for him to make bank but now we can draft our LTOTF.

The return no doubt sucks, but I'm already over it. There's absolutely no positives about the trade itself, but at least we have some resolution on the 2nd big domino, and now we can see the rest of their plan.

I bet they are planning on trading their 2025 2nd rounder to move up for a LT or WR.

Lol no.

Sigh. It is what it is. Ya can't keep everybody. In the end, Veach has earned a long leash...but it sucks to see Sneed go, and especially since we got Jack and Shit for him this year.

But, he's only one player, and you can't keep everyone. Find another good to great corner in later rounds and this all becomes a faded memory.

Good luck LJ...we're gonna miss ya...

Chiefs weren’t paying any one single player $19M. They weren’t beating the jets contract for Smith, and that’s a terrible risky deal anyway. Miss me with the he only cost about $7M. That’s if he doesn’t hardly play bay games. You don’t sign a value contract and then hope the player is injured or on the bench. You pay someone you expect to be there the whole season - I.e.: up to $20M. Literally no other left tackles were signed yet besides Cornelius Lucas who resigned with his own team?

Having that cap space available early in free agency may have been semi useful, but they have similar sum of all parts guys still on the market. It’s not a calamity.

I rather have the 2025 3rd than a 2024 4th.

If you can sensibly rule out non-factors of them willing to pay him $19M or him to even play on the tag, what’s left? Who did we not sign in the first few waves of free agency that you wanted?

Austin Ekeler? Maybe would have liked that, also possible he just hates the Chiefs and doesn’t want to do a Niel Smith.


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frees up enough cap space to sign Tradavious White or Xavien Howard and possibly Donovan Smith

We'll never know if Hollywood was the number one WR option to the Chiefs or not. BUT, passing on/getting outbid for Mike Evans, Calvin Ridley, Darnell Mooney, etc to get Hollywood at such a bargain price was HUGE. The X and O people seem to think Hollywood was the best fit anyway (of course saying this after the fact).

There are still plenty of guys on the market to fill the needs that are still there. Still need a backup QB, Back Up/3rd Down Back, Defensive End, and Left Tackle. They have cap space and the draft now to address those.

^this^ This trade tells me they were never keeping Sneed if they didn't get a 3rd next year in any trade, they would have rescinded the tag and let him walk. I don't think there is any free agent that's been signed that we "missed out on" because of this trade. So bottom line, they were never going to pay Sneed $19.8m this year. They tagged him and with this trade gives them a for sure 3rd next year and not at the bottom of the round. Titans also have the 1st, 7th and 22nd pick in the 7th round, and the Chiefs have 32. It will be interesting to see which 7th we get.

Again... Chiefs feel good about their DB room and were never going to spend $19.8m on Sneed. This therefore make sense and the compensation makes sense. It's less than I would have liked, but it a whole lot better than "maybe a comp pick". We have $19.8m extra in cap space to make this team better. I loved Sneed, but unfortunately this is how Dynasties have to operate and keep the best 22 on the field, not just the best CB.

The one good thing is if this was all we were ever going to get I prefer a 3rd next year over this year. I'd like to build up as many 2025 draft picks as possible...

The one positive is that Sneed didn't go to a playoff team or division rival.

There is a 0% chance the Titans make the playoffs and this move comes back to bite us.

Are you reeruned... Clark pays to the cap (plus) each and every year. You should really look at how the NFL compensation salary Cap works...