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I'm guessing all us Chiefs fans will catch up on this tonight. We were busy last night, lol.
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My wife was pissed when she realized we weren't going to be watching it last night LMAO
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Fantastic episode. Keeps getting better.
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These characters are more compelling to me than the ones from the first season of GoT, and the story is more compelling as well. I'm more into this and I binged the entire first season of GoT from a DVD that was gifted me. Good stuff.
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NORMALIZING INCEST......... DON'T KNOW HOW TO FEEL.........
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I think the best thing I’ve seen so far is that they have done such an excellent job of showing the motivations of all the different characters and giving you reason to empathize with each one.
Except for Ser Otto. **** that guy. He’s gross.
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Hey, I'm definitely not Team Daemon. I'm not Team Anyone in this show. Pretty much all of these people are ****s, including most of the children.
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And yes, some evil was done for that good. More a comment on the nature of the show, depiction of people on it, than anything else. |
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I don't have anything to add to the discussion other than to say this show has thus far exceeded my expectations greatly. I'm in with both feet.
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Who knew such a small thing like a Valaryan steel dagger could change the course of history multiple times over the years?
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Man. Great episode.
They’re doing a LOT of little things right. That IMO is what makes GOT work. The little shit that is compelling draws you in and pulls your focus away from “:spock: Am I really watching a show about a 700 foot tall ice wall and dragons?”. The big shit, no matter how good the story is doesn’t work without the little shit and that’s what the later seasons were missing. But man this is doing it in spades. The nuance when they all walked onto the deck for the funeral was just excellent filmmaking. So much nuance and tension in a layered scene was so good. And the climax scene there were so many little details like Alicent knocking over Viserys (that maybe the thing that kills him? Nice) and the Lord Commander of the Kings Guard has to tend to him and can’t stop ser Christian (despite yelling at him exactly how I yell at my kids) that causes Daemon to step in and stop him. So ****ing good. Yes the central conflict between the two women (plus all it represents) was excellent but the little bits are what float the boat. That’s what keeps viewers hooked IMO. |
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The most non-dork-friendly dork IMO is Emergency Awesome. New Rockstars channel has better breakdowns, especially with regards to music and visual production that adds a lot of layers to a good show, but you have to wade through a LOT of non-dork-friendly content to find the good stuff. |
Is this worth pursuing? I'm half way through episode three, sort of have lost interest.
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Damn good acting tonight by the guy playing Viserys
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Viserys was the only decent person on the entire show but it also made him a weak king. Now I just hope everyone dies.
Martin is a bit of a troll, he wants you to feel like shit for caring about decent characters. He likes to redeem the scumbags that aren’t worthy of redemption. I’m on to his bullshit now. |
Mountain Vs. Viper FTW
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whenever it happens, this will be the greatest battle in television history. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HouseOfTheDragon?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HouseOfTheDragon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hotd?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Hotd</a> <a href="https://t.co/cuLEMgDv4z">pic.twitter.com/cuLEMgDv4z</a></p>— House of Dragon 🐉 (@HouseOfDragon24) <a href="https://twitter.com/HouseOfDragon24/status/1579298683254116353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
What a ****ing episode :clap:
Daemon the GOAT: "he can keep his tounge" |
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This show is amazing. I love love love it.
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Goddamn. That was some filmmaking.
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I just dislike the fact that the strong bastards are wimps when their dad clearly was not. Also idk how to spell his name but aemond?? The kid with one eye turned from a 12 year old to a 25 year old man lol. Either way great episode and Daemon is still the best.
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Probably the way he took out the much beloved Crabfeeder. :) |
Also, if not everyone had the same goddamn name in this world, there would be no confusion in the first place lol
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this show is as good as GoT has ever been
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No spoiler as far as I know. Haven't read the books or saw youtube spoilers.... John Snow is the 5th grandson of Aegon, correct? The sons with the black hair, that's who his grandad was? |
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Wonder if its all Mitch and when he leaves after this season as the show runner it will be different? |
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I wasn't feeling great about Daemon being a COLOSSAL **** a fair bit of the time. It seemed fairly annoying. However, when they panned the camera to him in a place that it felt like he should be a ****, and he was very solemn and contrite, obviously caring for and respecting his suffering brother. Got that hit like a truck. Fantastic. Not a single word of dialogue, but super impactful scene. So yeah, I could be wrong here. Quote:
RE: Strong kids, they're obviously a fair bit younger. I THINK Aegon is supposed to be 19ish and Aemond is supposed to be 16ish. So if the Strong kids are 13 and 10 (I don't know, there are probably some dork videos out there that know how old they are to the day, but whatever that's how I see it) their weakness is probably appropriate. I hope, as the war gets started at least one of them will become a Billy Badass. I loved Harlan going after Cole. I know it was a scripted fight, but that dude seemed like he had HEAVY ass hands. Gimme some more of that. |
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Paddy Condisdine should win an Emmy for his role as Viserys. I'm gonna miss that dude.
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The biggest **** award goes to Otto Hightower. I hate that mother****ing weasel and can't stand when it shows him. The guy and his daughter Alicent act so high and mighty, but had been keeping Viserys drugged so they could do whatever they want with the kingdom. Felt awesome when Viserys came into the throne room to interrupt the bullshit. |
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Condisdine is really good though, and if he won an Emmy I'd probably stand and cheer. He was really ****ing good. I don't know if it was him, or posted sound effects, but they even worked in a death rattle. Impressive. And I know I keep harping on it, but it is some really impressive writing that early on he didn't know what he was doing, made bad decisions and everybody did whatever the **** he wanted. Then later, he's grown into a much stronger and infinitely wiser and better leader, and nobody listens to a ****ing thing he says. Without beating you over the head with it, it's a goddamned good choice and well executed. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I was so thankful that accident happened ... quite a turning point for a storyline that had started in the pilot: hey, I want your crown and by the end here I’m gonna put the crown back on your head and I’m gonna help you to your throne"<a href="https://t.co/UubVwUHOeo">https://t.co/UubVwUHOeo</a></p>— Culture Crave �� (@CultureCrave) <a href="https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1579512235130753024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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The Strong kids have been left behind by the men in Kings Landing/their lives who would otherwise help them become masculine. Daemon probably isn’t involved with them. Their pretend Dad wasn’t exactly present or raising them to be fighters. Their actual father wasn’t around for long but was the only one we see encouraging them to train but he couldn’t be as involved as he liked. And Sir Christian, who was most responsible for training the boys in fighting, had no desire and in fact preferred to humiliate them and instead focused on Aemond who he considers the true heir. It makes a lot of sense that they would grow up a little weaker and less accomplished with swords and weapons. |
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Really nice episode.
I really loved the throne room scene, the last dinner, and Daemon’s demeanor around his dying brother. He was stuttering and seemed almost embarrassed to bring up the succession while Viserys was suffering in bed. And the look of sadness he carried for most of the episode was heavy. Viserys showing the strength to sit the throne one last time and Daemon helping was also well done. A few things: Is Diana dead? I thought that was pretty ambiguous. She said she’d never tell anyone and Alicent said she knew. The only way she’d know it is if Diana died right there in that room. I originally assumed the tea was the contraceptive but with Alicent’s wording, I figured it might have been some sort of poison. I’m loving the sly tension and foreshadowing they’re setting up with Aemond and Daemon. Aemond hasn’t quite challenged Daemon yet and Daemon seems to be more amused with Aemond’s antics to this point. I’d imagine he probably sees a lot of himself in Aemond. Also regarding Aemond, I thought him standing up in defense of Aegon at dinner was a little strange. Last we saw them, Aegon was a douche, bullying Aemond and we see now that Aegon is even shittier. Aegon isn’t a fighter and doesn’t even want the throne. Seems Aemond would be the type with loftier aspirations who’d want the throne for himself but that doesn’t seem to be the case, at least not yet. |
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I think Criston Cole and the Strongs should have been portrayed by dark skinned actors rather than the Velaryons. Assuming the goal is to make Luc and Jace obviously not Laenor's kids to the absolute dumbest audience members of course.
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Take a look at a family tree and it becomes clear.
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I guess the scene in the throne room was partially improvised by Matt Smith. I guess the crown wasn't supposed to fall off his head and it was an accident, but Daemon picked it up and gave it to Viserys. They just kept rolling and went with it. That small element added a shit ton to that scene.
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