Damn, that mother ****er can fly.

Cook and Thornhill do different things.

They also play for different teams next year.

I wouldn't be so sure.

I'm not sure that Thornhill is getting this big money deal you guys think he will.

Big money? No.

Bigger than the Chiefs will pay after drafting a guy in the 2nd round last year? Yes.

He has a pretty desirable skill set and he's a younger player with a pretty solid resume already.

I think a deal near Reid's is pretty likely. He was hot/cold especially through the middle part of the season so that will probably put a cap on his value. Bates will obviously be the top guy on the market but I expect he won't get there.

There will be some older guys like Jimmie Ward and Jordan Poyer. I'd imagine Chauncey Gardner-Johnson will be most teams first choice if they're looking for a single-high guy but I figure Thornhill will be the next choice.

Not trying to pick on Bolton, but watch those two and notice the difference in speed. Holy shit Cook is fast.

They both seem nice though.

Dude, they don't even have the same skillset. Cook is not replacing Thornhill. If they let Thornhill go, they're going to be shopping for a new safety.

Yeah, I don't agree. Cook isn't coming down playing the Sorenson role, that's Reid.

Cook is Thornhill's replacement.

Bolton is also standing flat-footed to read the play while Cook has come 3 full strides to get to speed before Bolton can turn and run. Yeah, Cook is faster than Bolton (duh; he's a DB vs. a LB) but he also had the advantage of several steps to get up to speed.

I'm mostly intrigued by what Cook saw that allowed him to sell out early like that. Did he have a spy on that RB out of the backfield? Because he was off like a shot almost immediately.

I think he read Burrow's eyes and likely noted the receivers on his half were half-assing their routes.

Good play by him. Also had some bad plays. Time will tell. Still rooting for him & every other “rookie” on the squad.

Plenty more where that came from. You still seem nice. Hugs. :)

The **** does "drafted too high in my eyes" mean? Where "should" a guy with his talents be drafted (and still assure the Chiefs that he isn't drafted by another team)?

Unbelievable.

Cook has been a very nice surprise playing deep; his book after the draft said that he was a liability there but was a good downhill safety. So this expansion of his capabilities has been a huge plus for the secondary especially over the last two months or so. As a replacement for Dirty Dan, if that's really how Spags sees him, has been a nice upgrade in speed, coverage ability and tackling, for certain.

Too high is drafterbator for “I didn’t have him going that early”.

Have a sip of your Octoberfest pixie's beer and believe it. (Wonder how old she is now after all these years. God bless her.) Chiefs are going to the SB, so lighten up Francis.

Based on Cook's college career, draft profile, Chiefs' draft position/needs and other teams' draft needs: I would have taken a chance & traded back to get Cook or Joseph Kerby (taken R3, #97 overall). Assuming that a trade partner could be found. But the draft is a crapshoot. Lots of hard to define variables. One easy to define variable is that the Chiefs had already signed Bush. That was no doubt part of the calculus. So I am happy to defer to Mr. Veach. He's the expert on all things Chiefs. (After all these years, it's a sweet thing to have adults running the show at Arrowhead. I'm so very thankful to have a GM who isn't a narcissistic blowhard cursing out top draft picks and their agents or playing hall monitor to candy bar wrappers. All the while doing God's work in running this franchise.) That said, Chiefs are AFC Champions and heading to the SB. I'm not losing sleep over any of the draft picks... even if I wouldn't have taken Cook in the 2nd round.


I'm a Master Drafterbater. And I'm taking the GF and her twin sister to Belize to watch the SB. Two finer butts you've never seen. :)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is an elite play by Cook <br><br>Knows the situation (3rd &amp; 3; elite slant WR in the outside lane)<br><br>Positions for the slant but then recovers with serious speed and the finish on the football is as good as you will see anywhere <a href="https://t.co/2w3S3mPzLM">pic.twitter.com/2w3S3mPzLM</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Stewart (@BryanStewart_) <a href="https://twitter.com/BryanStewart_/status/1621393662809702402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's just a hell of a play. High safety jumps the slant, realizes it's a s and go and turns and runs and finds the ball and makes a play on it.

Cook is going to be good

Sometimes we forget we are starting 4 rookie DBs or at least we have significant snap counts.

Honestly think Snead is going to price out, and we will draft another DB and sign a vet in off-season

That will suck. He is so versatile in this defense.

I’m not sure about this.

Have people forgotten that Spagnuolo preferred to start Sorenson over Thornhill for damn near half a season and only made the switch after multiple game swinging ****ups by Sorenson. I just don't think Thornhill is though of that highly in the organization. Maybe he takes at or near vet min to stay but other than that he's probably gone.

I was thinking purely on an athletic basis. But no I haven’t forgotten. Thornhill has had some good games lately though.

J. Williams just needs to high-step out of Tee Higgins' swipe-tackle, and he could have run all day. He was clear to the 50 and had blockers in front.

We'll know exactly what the Chiefs think of Cook if they let Thornhill walk.

Looking at it he seemed to have a ton of room to run. Wasn't sure how much though.

Thornhill has a say in that as well. If he is looking for a big payday he's probably gone. I could see them resigning him if he is reasonable with his demands.

What we believe is reasonable about half the time is below market value for these guys. Every year we as fans are super shocked that somebody gets paid a fat bag.

Thornhill may need to accept not just a cheap 1-year deal, but also Cook being the starter. And that might be too much for him.

Cook's made some rookie mistakes. But he also flashed in that AFCCG in a way I can't remember Thornhill doing for a long time.

Veach nailed the draft. We can return the entire secondary minus Thornhill next season. If Sneed gets grumpy about not getting the new deal he will want he can play out the final year of his contract or force a trade. Chiefs are in a great position IMO.

Bart rebuilt damn near the entire defense with last year’s draft.

Just need a 3rd safety, a DE opposite Furious George, and some DT depth.

I want Snead back, but you’d have to think they could get a nice return on that. Especially when you consider how minimal the initial investment was.

Imagine how dominant our secondary could be with Snead and then McDuffie, Watson, Williams, and Cook as 2nd year players, with Reid as well. Even without the draft, our only weakness would be what, the DE opposite Karlaftis??

Agree. Its odd saying this a week before we play in the Super Bowl, but I'm really excited about what next year could look like.

As for the prospect of trading Sneed. I want him to be a Chief. But when you are a team like the Chiefs you just can't be married to everyone because of Mahomes. I think a deal can be worked out. I'm not nervous at all about it, but if it were to sour you get picks and move on and you keep the roster young, cheap, and talented.

I was thinking the same. If we lost and were close it'd be gutting, but I'd still feel like there's a really good opportunity for this team to come back better next year with a more complete roster.

This is an impressive physique for a safety that can run

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Way better than a stupid hill.

No box jump, tho.

I really wish we could've seen this guy's workout numbers at the combine.

Veach said he would've went higher if he tested.

I really have unrealistic expectations for this guy. Like when he hits a scrambling quarterback he literally loses his head and it goes rolling out of bounds and he's dead.

https://i.imgflip.com/dnvja.gif

That guy running full speed towards you would be ****ing terrifying.

I don't understand how it wasn't position of need.

So, what's the consensus about where Cook ends up playing? he's probably not going to be FS, right? Looks more like a SS, near the box. Then does that make Reid the FS in deep center?

In today's game safeties are largely interchangeable.

Sure. What I mean is in single high downs or whatever. Who's our best deep S at the moment? Cooks doesn't seem to fit that role.

I think Spags will rotate whomever back there to change the look. As previously noted, they'll likely play interchangeably.

Lol, I know Spags will rotate people around. My question is simply which of our two S is better at playing deep centerfield? Which guy has the better skillset in that situation?

DJ is verbose and occasionally wrong.

News at 11.

I don't think it could be Cook. I don't think he has the range or read. I'll be honest, I didn't like the pick much at that point in the draft, but he tackles well and seems solid the nearer he is to the line. I just think he's not quick or fluid enough for FS.

That's kind of what I was thinking, but i also admit i spent very little time actually watching Cook. Reid looked decent at times back there, and I think I read somewhere that he really is supposed to be a FS.

I mean, I'm not worried about it at all. Spags will figure it out, and we actually have both Sneed and MCDuffie that could play S if it became necessary, so it's not like anyone needs to panic. I was just curious which guy was better playing deep, or to be more precise, my gut told me that Cook wasn't it, and I was fishing for consensus on CP.:)

I think I agree on Reid, but I know less about his usage with the Texans and what's been typical for him. Seems like he's been used everywhere on the assumption of versatility. But to my eyes he might be better further back. Presume Spags will just keep spinning everyone around!

I'm probably way off but...I kinda feel like there might be an expanded role for Nazeeh Johnson. Think he ran in the 4.3s and he looked QUICK on STs, and a way more reliable tackler than in college

He wasn't JUST drafted for ST. The team really likes him as as defender. You could absolutely be correct.

Edit: His fastest was 4.32.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bryan F. Cook, folks….Put some respek on his name: <a href="https://t.co/Q2LHBCMBYA">pic.twitter.com/Q2LHBCMBYA</a></p>&mdash; Matt C (@MattfromKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattfromKC/status/1708687971065471293?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This guy is good. Another Vorch home run.

Cook saved the game for KC.

I remember people complaining when he was drafted. Always thought he was an outstanding pick.

An extremely underrated play tonight.

That was like the Roethlisberger tackle to stop the Colts on the scoop and score.

Yes it was and if Hall scores there we might very well have lost the game with Breece getting going because you don't want that. Cook tracks very well and doesn't get lost whether tracking the ball or player. My guess he played the outfield in baseball.;)

This was arguably the play of the game.

You really see tranquil inability to stack and shed and karalaftis lack of pursuit speed on that play. (Karalaftis got burned by the jets qb on several plays also)

I bet there aren't 5 other safeties in this league who could make that play. The way he adjusted his angle while running almost backwards and tackled with pure arm strength was damn impressive.

That was such a key play in the game that went unnoticed.

Very similar to that big gain Gray fought for on 3rd down against the Jags to set up a 4th and short. Unsung heroes.

I'm not seeing the Abram comparison at all. Cook's the cerebral/vocal leader of our secondary while also providing that thump. He's an all around great safety.

That boy fast

Oof that was a rough one

Wonder what the fancy stats show his top speed on that return. Dude was hauling some serious ass

Yes, he was. His speed very much surprised me on that play.

[QUOTE=BWillie;17211463]That boy fast[/QUOTE
Kids got wheels

He's just a great all-around safety.

cheetah speed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bryan Cook reached a top speed of 21.31 mph on his 59-yard fumble return TD, the fastest play by a Chiefs&#39; ball carrier this season. (via <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NextGenStats</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/awscloud?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@awscloud</a> <a href="https://t.co/BZFr0UzKZt">pic.twitter.com/BZFr0UzKZt</a></p>&mdash; NFL Network (@nflnetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork/status/1721206252636897683?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Veach absolutely nailed so many picks in that draft.

McDuffie, Karlaftis, Cook, Williams, Watson, Pacheco. Hell of a draft, and we’re seeing a great defense because of it.

Bryan Cook of the Kansas City Chiefs returns a fumble against the Miami Dolphins in an NFL game played in Frankfurt Germany on November 5th 2023:

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This mother****er....

He's awesome.

Chenal's been pretty good too.

I like this guy, he’s a perfect pairing next to Justin Reid

I knew I was forgetting someone. Thanks!

Man, if Skyy can even become a decent receiver. Like a 600-700 yard guy. Just good enough that you want him on the roster. That’s about the only blemish on that draft currently.

Kinnard didn’t work out, but he was a later pick

he has already passed his rookie numbers