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ChiefAshhole1056 01-19-2021 01:56 AM

Love the mentality this kid plays with. He’s looking to lay dudes out consistently and has the speed, size, and strength to do it routinely. He did great against Jarvis but he could become a household name if he does something similar against Diggs, and honestly I’m not too mad at his odds. He’s the perfect type of CB that could neutralize Diggs.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-19-2021 02:06 AM

Sneed is a man of few words but he lets his actions speak for himself. If he shuts down Diggs, Sneed will be a household name for years to come. Not only are we looking at a future pro bowler but if he keeps up his current trajectory then he will be in Canton when his career is done

milkshock 01-19-2021 03:02 AM

What a player this young man is

Sannyasi 01-19-2021 03:22 AM

Love watching this guy play. If he's this good in his rookie year then the sky is the limit for him! He's already making huge plays in big moments.

Chris Meck 01-19-2021 04:08 AM

steal of the draft.

emaw1979 01-19-2021 08:43 AM

If he doesn't get injured he's in the defensive rookie of the year conversation.

KChiefs1 01-19-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by emaw1979 (Post 15490665)
If he doesn't get injured he's in the defensive rookie of the year conversation.

Definitely!

thabear04 01-19-2021 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15490503)
Sneed is a man of few words but he lets his actions speak for himself. If he shuts down Diggs, Sneed will be a household name for years to come. Not only are we looking at a future pro bowler but if he keeps up his current trajectory then he will be in Canton when his career is done

And Sneed never played in the Bills game so him on Diggs will be a plus for Chiefs.

ToxSocks 01-19-2021 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by emaw1979 (Post 15490665)
If he doesn't get injured he's in the defensive rookie of the year conversation.

I wish.

He doesn't have the name recognition.

Not that he doesn't deserve it though....

The secondary as a whole is playing great ball. Most under rated unit of all the playoff teams. Even the throws Mayfield made were just great throws. The coverage was there. None of our guys were truly "beat".

I don't see that changing vs Buff.

Dull Tools 01-19-2021 11:47 AM

Playing amazing whenever he has played. Its great when you pick up a great player in later rounds.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-19-2021 01:09 PM

It's utterly ridiculous how good Sneed has been. It's even more ridiculous how little recognition he gets for it.

To snag a legit shutdown corner in the 4th round is just plain amazing. We'll be paying him next to nothing the next 3 years to cover the opposing team's top receiver.

These are the kind of picks your GM has to make when you're paying your QB $500 million and want to remain competitive. With him, Fenton and Ward we'll have our top 3 corners making peanuts next year.

Kiimo 01-19-2021 01:34 PM

They mentioned Sneed in the broadcast. The thing is it takes a few years for people to recognize shutdown corners because they don't get the interceptions.


But people who know, know. Sneed is a way better player than say, oh I dunno Marcus Peters.

milkshock 01-19-2021 01:39 PM

He is all over the field, has even been effective on the blitz. Just an instinctive player.

Kiimo 01-19-2021 01:50 PM

This article is great



https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...2020-nfl-draft


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L'JARIUS SNEED ONE OF THE BIGGEST STEALS IN 2020 DRAFT CLASS

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Kansas City’s rookie class has a chance to be special. The team has seen significant contributions from most of their rookie class, and many of these players project to be key pieces moving forward. While first-round running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire has more than lived up to the hype as being the first running back off the board, one could argue that the most important and perhaps best pick for the franchise’s long-term success was fourth-round corner L’Jarius Sneed.

Pitt Gorilla 01-19-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15490522)
steal of the draft.

He is. When other GMs saw him move to safety, that was considered a con. Veach/Spags were like "Where the **** do I sign up?"

Wharton is going to be up there as well regarding "steals." The guy is nearly unblockable.

Megatron96 01-19-2021 02:12 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sneed didn't play BUF back in week 6 or whatever? So something new for Allen to have to deal with?

Kiimo 01-19-2021 02:13 PM

No he didn't and if we stick him on Diggs that could be huge.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-19-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15491483)
No he didn't and if we stick him on Diggs that could be huge.

Put him on Diggs with some extra help here and there. Take away Allen's favorite receiver. I'm pretty peanut brain when it comes to football but this seems like a legit strategy.

Megatron96 01-19-2021 02:37 PM

Maybe Sneed/Thornhill on Diggs? Not a big fan of putting a rookie alone on Diggs. Sounds like too big of a risk.

Spags will have a good plan, we know that. Probably some mixture of guys in coverage on Diggs. I think last time he employed some version of the box on Diggs. But he didn't have Sneed, and I think Ward was still dealing with a broken hand, so maybe he spends less resources this time?

Will be interesting to see what he does.

ToxSocks 01-19-2021 03:01 PM

As good as Sneed has been, Breeland and Ward have been excellent as well. I'm pretty damn comfortable with any of those guys on Diggs TBH.

Pitt Gorilla 01-19-2021 03:20 PM

Meh, we're going to mix coverages throughout the game, as we always do. Against Allen, it's a must. There won't be "one guy" on Diggs or any other receiver.

Kiimo 01-19-2021 03:22 PM

That's a good point. Sneed playing definitely helps though

KChiefs1 01-19-2021 04:11 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs CB L&#39;Jarius Sneed, P Tommy Townsend named to PFWA All-Rookie Team<a href="https://t.co/312ZQGH936">https://t.co/312ZQGH936</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs Football Alliance (@FA_NFL_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/FA_NFL_Chiefs/status/1351616083103510531?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

thabear04 01-19-2021 04:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lowest passer rating allowed among remaining CBs:<br>�� L&#39;Jarius Sneed - 58.1<br>�� Jaire Alexander - 67.5 <a href="https://t.co/0oCgGaCh6k">pic.twitter.com/0oCgGaCh6k</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1351658456990810115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

pugsnotdrugs19 01-19-2021 04:44 PM

I just don’t see them taking Sneed out of his current role (slot CB), to follow Diggs around. Spags clearly likes what he brings with the blitz (3 sacks in last 3 games), and he’s really physical defending the run.

He could largely erase Beasley, let two other guys double Diggs.

staylor26 01-19-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15491987)
I just don’t see them taking Sneed out of his current role (slot CB), to follow Diggs around. Spags clearly likes what he brings with the blitz (3 sacks in last 3 games), and he’s really physical defending the run.

He could largely erase Beasley, let two other guys double Diggs.

Depends on Breeland and Fulton.

When Breeland went down Sneed moved outside and Mathieu was playing in the slot.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-19-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15491998)
Depends on Breeland and Fulton.

When Breeland went down Sneed moved outside and Mathieu was playing in the slot.

Well that’s not great, we need to be able to use Mathieu in his rover do-it-all role if possible. Fenton is probably the best bet compared to Breeland who I doubt plays.

Megatron96 01-19-2021 05:45 PM

Superficially I really like the idea of Sneed on Diggs, but I'm not sure that Breeland/Ward are actually fast/quick enough to cover him. We know Sneed actually is.

But rookies vs. veteran elite WRs never, ever ends well for the rookie, so . . .

MahomesMagic 01-19-2021 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15491987)
I just don’t see them taking Sneed out of his current role (slot CB), to follow Diggs around. Spags clearly likes what he brings with the blitz (3 sacks in last 3 games), and he’s really physical defending the run.

He could largely erase Beasley, let two other guys double Diggs.

Yeah, normally I favor having my best corner to erase their 2nd best WR and then use numbers on their best.

jettio 01-19-2021 05:58 PM

Veach likes corners who can tackle and love playing football. He has done an amazing job of finding DBs with length and/or speed and can tackle.

Sneed is great.

GloucesterChief 01-19-2021 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 15492173)
Veach likes corners who can tackle and love playing football. He has done an amazing job of finding DBs with length and/or speed and can tackle.

Sneed is great.

With the way offenses are a true shutdown corner really doesn't exist anymore. Makes sense to get corner that will attack plays, make the tackle, and limit YAC.

jettio 01-19-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 15492272)
With the way offenses are a true shutdown corner really doesn't exist anymore. Makes sense to get corner that will attack plays, make the tackle, and limit YAC.

On Cleveland's last play on offense. Only a handful of NFL corners could stop Kareem Hunt as quickly as Ward did.

KChiefs1 01-20-2021 08:33 AM

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KChiefs1 01-20-2021 09:50 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sneed with a good read and avoids the traffic to make the tackle on the outside. Thankful Kpassagnon didn’t hurt his arm or pec on the tackle with how it stretched. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/Pdh1fy352O">pic.twitter.com/Pdh1fy352O</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1351917990183383043?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 01-20-2021 09:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sneak good blitz here. Sneed will be coming off the edge but Okafor crashes down for him to occupy the RG and RT. Wilson takes then back’s attention. Sneed makes it look like he has the TE and blends in with the OL until it is too late for Mayfield. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JacobsEyeInTheSky?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JacobsEyeInTheSky</a> <a href="https://t.co/tGU9PPTYYA">pic.twitter.com/tGU9PPTYYA</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1351916138893078529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

jjchieffan 01-20-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15491596)
As good as Sneed has been, Breeland and Ward have been excellent as well. I'm pretty damn comfortable with any of those guys on Diggs TBH.

I don't know that I would say that Ward has been excellent and that I would be comfortable with him covering Diggs. Don't get me wrong. I'm not hating on Ward. He is a good corner. But he's inconsistent. He's just as apt to make a big mistake as he is to make a big play. I'm glad to have him on the team, but I'm afraid that Diggs would have a big game against him.

MahiMike 01-20-2021 08:41 PM

Dudes an animal.

Chiefshrink 01-21-2021 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 15495345)
Dudes an animal.

He's old school tackling and I love it. Lays good wood.:thumb:

Chiefshrink 01-21-2021 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15491596)
As good as Sneed has been, Breeland and Ward have been excellent as well. I'm pretty damn comfortable with any of those guys on Diggs TBH.

Agreed. But these guys must have clear communication at all times because Diggs can burn you in a heartbeat.

comochiefsfan 01-21-2021 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 15495700)
Agreed. But these guys must have clear communication at all times because Diggs can burn you in a heartbeat.

I would just keep safety help on Diggs at all times. Don't let him beat you. All the rest of their receivers are banged up (Diggs is as well), and they can't run the ball at all. Force Allen to beat you throwing the ball to people not named Stefon Diggs.

Spoiler Alert: He won't.

Chiefshrink 01-21-2021 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15495702)
I would just keep safety help on Diggs at all times. Don't let him beat you. All the rest of their receivers are banged up (Diggs is as well), and they can't run the ball at all. Force Allen to beat you throwing the ball to people not named Stefon Diggs.

Spoiler Alert: He won't.

Amen !!

Allen has improved his accuracy for sure but not enough to beat the Chiefs IF we get good pressure and good 2ndary play .

ChiefsFanatic 01-21-2021 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15491596)
As good as Sneed has been, Breeland and Ward have been excellent as well. I'm pretty damn comfortable with any of those guys on Diggs TBH.

I don't understand why Ward gets so much love. I don't care what PFF says, Ward is the best at being next to the receiver catching the ball.

There are so many times when he looks dumbfounded that his man caught the ball. Sure, it looks like he is great in coverage, but he is nearly as oblivious to the ball as William Bartee was.

If his receiver doesn't catch the ball, it usually has more to do with the receiver and the QB, than it does with Ward making a good play.

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DaneMcCloud 01-21-2021 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 15495706)
I don't understand why Ward gets so much love. I don't care what PFF says, Ward is the best at being next to the receiver catching the ball.

There are so many times when he looks dumbfounded that his man caught the ball. Sure, it looks like he is great in coverage, but he is nearly as oblivious to the ball as William Bartee was.

If his receiver doesn't catch the ball, it usually has more to do with the receiver and the QB, than it does with Ward making a good play.

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Ward’s speed covers a lot of his mistakes and while he’s not a #1 by any stretch, he’s not garbage, either.

ChiefsFanatic 01-21-2021 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15495716)
Ward’s speed covers a lot of his mistakes and while he’s not a #1 by any stretch, he’s not garbage, either.

I don't think he is garbage, but I don't see the star corner that PFF sees, or some of the fans see.

I think he has given up 2 or 3 touchdowns just this year where he looks surprised that his receiver was the target, and surprised that the receiver caught the ball, all because he doesn't seem to have any instincts or awareness when it comes to locating the ball, or anticipating the pass. And it's not just in the end zone.

In contrast, Tyrann Mathieu has instincts, and an internal clock, and is almost always aware that the ball is in the air, and the ability to look for the ball and still stay with his man. I acknowledge that Mathieu's instincts are special, but Ward doesn't seem to have any instincts at all.

I love Ward's size and speed, and I believe he can get better. But, he is being outplayed by Sneed. I think if Sneed didn't miss significant time due to his injury, he may have been the starting CB opposite Breeland on the outside already.

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staylor26 01-21-2021 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 15495706)
I don't understand why Ward gets so much love. I don't care what PFF says, Ward is the best at being next to the receiver catching the ball.

There are so many times when he looks dumbfounded that his man caught the ball. Sure, it looks like he is great in coverage, but he is nearly as oblivious to the ball as William Bartee was.

If his receiver doesn't catch the ball, it usually has more to do with the receiver and the QB, than it does with Ward making a good play.

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:facepalm:

MahomesMagic 01-21-2021 07:17 AM

I like the idea of Snead and sometimes Mathieu in the slot on Beasley.

Ward on Brown.

Breeland on Diggs.

Then we can use numbers to support Breeland to erase Diggs.

Pitt Gorilla 01-24-2021 09:21 PM

Hope dude is good to go for the SB.

thabear04 01-24-2021 09:56 PM

Concussion maybe? But he should be good to play in the Super bowl.

Chris Meck 01-24-2021 09:58 PM

It wasn't particularly egregious. I would expect he'll be good to go.

Pitt Gorilla 01-24-2021 10:04 PM

Dude is SO valuable.

thabear04 01-24-2021 10:10 PM

He should be good he went live holding his son looked fine.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-24-2021 10:12 PM

Veach said you could make a case for L Jarous Sneed being a first round pick

KChiefs1 01-24-2021 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 15508271)
He should be good he went live holding his son looked fine.

Still needs to do the protocol.

Basileus777 01-24-2021 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15508289)
Still needs to do the protocol.

2 weeks to clear it. Should be fine.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-24-2021 10:14 PM

Might be my favorite defensive player on the team

thabear04 01-24-2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15508289)
Still needs to do the protocol.

Yeah I know hopefully he clear to play.

Why Not? 01-24-2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15508280)
Veach said you could make a case for L Jarous Sneed being a first round pick

Pro rate his stats over a full season and was there any 2020 first round secondary players who were better this year?

PattyFlakes 01-24-2021 10:17 PM

Dude is the complete package back there. Can cover, make plays on the ball, is an effective blitzer, and is a good physical tackler. Great pick Veach.

TwistedChief 01-24-2021 10:19 PM

He does nothing but make plays. All the time. Spags has so much confidence in this guy.

BossChief 01-24-2021 10:26 PM

He played like a top 5 corner this season and today was full blown elite.

His value alone will offset a big chunk of Mahomes cost.

Bravo, Veach.

Bravo.

mnchiefsguy 01-24-2021 10:28 PM

Hope he is all right for the Super Bowl. We are gonna need him.

KChiefs1 01-24-2021 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15508293)
Might be my favorite defensive player on the team

He is mine. :thumb:

Redbled 01-24-2021 11:42 PM

I can’t recall a Chiefs DB ever being as effective at blitzing as Sneed. What all timers do you recall that had a knack like that?

KChiefs1 01-27-2021 04:47 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highest-graded rookie CB of 2020: L&#39;Jarius Sneed<br><br>Sneed was the 16th CB drafted in the 2020 NFL Draft �� �� <a href="https://t.co/Am29E7cFEN">pic.twitter.com/Am29E7cFEN</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1354542455941685249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pitt Gorilla 01-27-2021 05:09 PM

Again:

Other GMs: OMG, he's playing safety this season! That's so terrible. Imma put a 7th round grade on him.

Beach: Holy ****! He can also play safety! Dude might be the best DB in the draft for our scheme. Clearly a first-rounder, but I bet we can get him in the 4th because these other guys are complete idiots.

Spags:
https://media.tenor.com/images/e42e4...0a74/tenor.gif

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-27-2021 05:49 PM

Veach is a ****ing wizard

Red Dawg 01-27-2021 05:53 PM

Kid can ball. He fast as well, nobody is burning him.

Sofa King 01-27-2021 07:21 PM

Did he have a concussion then or what? I haven't heard anything on him, haven't seen any updates either.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-27-2021 07:33 PM

Kid is a 4th round GEM. Steal of the draft.

ToxSocks 01-27-2021 07:38 PM

I remember the first time we really heard about him in camp. They said he ran stride for stride with Tyreek and broke up the pass. Kinda neat to see those camp reports come to fruition.

suzzer99 01-27-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15514338)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highest-graded rookie CB of 2020: L&#39;Jarius Sneed<br><br>Sneed was the 16th CB drafted in the 2020 NFL Draft �� �� <a href="https://t.co/Am29E7cFEN">pic.twitter.com/Am29E7cFEN</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1354542455941685249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Basically Brandon Carr. Hopefully we keep him this time. That was a real bummer losing Carr.

BossChief 01-27-2021 11:59 PM

Sneed is way better than Carr ever was.

That’s not a knock on Carr.

Pitt Gorilla 01-28-2021 07:14 PM

Sneed was the #17 ranked CB headed into the draft. Imagine how good the other 16 are!

Pitt Gorilla 02-01-2021 10:58 PM

https://fansided.com/2021/02/01/ljar...IxUWm1ipRSZvhY

staylor26 02-01-2021 11:10 PM

BAMF

Pants 02-02-2021 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15522583)

Nice read.

dlphg9 02-02-2021 02:56 AM

Mother****er has never blitzed before and looks like he's been doing it for 10 years.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-02-2021 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15522709)
Mother****er has never blitzed before and looks like he's been doing it for 10 years.

He could’ve gotten one more last game but he fell for the pump fake 🥺

Dunerdr 02-02-2021 09:48 AM

WHO'S D DO I HAVE TO S TO GET A SHIT LOAD OF L SNEED GIFS IN HERE?

CoMoChief 02-02-2021 10:57 AM

It'd be interesting to see what his full stat line could have been had he been able to stay healthy.

We'd prob be talking about DROTY.

What a great gem find by Veach and Co.


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