Rip is on ER on Pop network. Hard to tell it is the same person

Many of us can say that

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He was in School Ties and Good Will Hunting

He was in Dazed and Confused also, didn’t recognize him at first.

I hate Jamie’s **** baby mama

1883 is really ****ing good.

I was stoked when the group defended themselves. Then was like "aw ****". Then I was all "holy shit, Billy Bob!"

The ending was very powerful and all kinds of sad.

Yellowstone is a daytime soap opera in comparison.

Ok all caught up now, and maaan I just can't believe what a disappointing season its been... was that REALLY the best they could do in the second to last episode of the season?

Spending 20 more worthless minutes on Jimmy's ass, and another 15 on Kayce trying to understand the meaning of his spirit animal?

And another 10 or so on the enviro-radical who loves ****ing her enemies?

**** me

Its easy to see where all of Taylor Sheridans creative energies are being spent these days, and thats 1883... which is a VASTLY superior product at this point

But probably not enough to make me sign up and pay extra for it, because **** Taylor Sheridan

Yeah I agree. This season has been disappointing. After last season's exciting cliffhanger, which resulted in "they fight off the bad guys and everyone lives and is just fine. 3 months later...." in this season's premiere, I don't know if I can ever get too excited about this show again.

And yeah I just love how Jimmy can't walk 5 feet without falling into a pit of wet panties. I mean he might have down syndrome, but them country girls are lonely!

The finale is gonna be just as I feared, they'll try to cram 3 hours of crap into an hour and thirty minutes, and its gonna be a MESS... just like the Walking Dead used to do

Couldn't agree more with the assessments above. Just a complete trash season of a show I loved and a return I was eagerly anticipating after the killer season 3 finale. This whole thing has been hot garbage and I'm painfully watching but ready to throw in the towel.

Me thinks Mr Sheridan is stretched too thin with projects and thought this one could get by on previous reputation alone. I'm literally not even sure if I could summarize this seasons plot or big arc if someone asked me.

"And next stop shave that shit off Jimmy. You look ****ing homeless"

At this point I'm just watching it because I loved it before this season. This show flat out sucks. Kayce's spirit animal...what the ****?? More music videos showing horse type stuff for filler...Beth needs Walker to sing her a sad song so she can cry...

...I mean, this shit is so cringeworthy I can't believe it. How could they have had 3 seasons of absolute awesomeness only to leave us with this schlock?

Seriously, do the writers and actors and crew finish a season like this and feel "wow, we are really doing something special here"? They have to know they are mailing this in. I hate shows that do this, looking at you GoT...

I guess I'll try 1883...maybe. Although it'll probably suck me in and 3 years later it'll be shit too...UGH...

Thought about that today. Don't you love the way TV execs think?

Hey-we love your show. It is a high quality money maker. You put everything in your brain and heart into that show.

We want you do the same thing with 5 more shows. Split your brain and heart into 5 different things...We are sure the quality will be just as good, and if not, no one will notice.

My guess on what happens in next week's "shocking" season ender:

JD kills Jamie's Dad by kidnapping him and taking him to the train station. Jamie's dad's last words: "REMEMBER THE TITANS!"

Rip beats Walker to death with his guitar for serenading Beth. Beth then has dirty animal sex with Lloyd, because, well Beth is like that. Rip goes into town, gets faced, then gets pulled over for a DUI and the Sheriff determines he has no drivers license, and does not exist in any database. He's a non person. He gets deported as an illegal alien.

Kacey gets hooked on Peyote and turns into the January 6th dude in the cow horns. His annoying wife runs off with Mo. His annoying son gets eaten by a wolf.

The stable kid steals JD's truck and goes to Las Vegas, where he becomes a habitual gambler.

Jamie beats his pushy baby mama to death with a rock, then tucks her in a kayak and dumps her in the river. Hey, it worked once. His baby is eaten by a wolf.

Chief Rainwater is burned at the stake by his own tribe, who then sells the reservation to the evil white city builders for 500 million dollars.

The environmental chick gets a suspended sentence then has dirty animal sex with Beth. Then she tells Beth she has ass cancer.

Jimmy quits the ranch; moves to Utah, becomes a mormon and marries both of his girlfriends.

See? Nice tidy season ending!

LULZ, and yes... bet we haven't heard the last of Rip vs Walker

This show has so many unlikeable characters that I wouldn’t be sad to see most of them killed off. I think Walker, Kayce and his family, Rainwater and Mo and the few extras in the bunkhouse are really the only characters that aren’t absolute pieces of shit. I liked Lloyd until his bullshit with Walker.

**** John Dutton the most. I have a few close friends that grew up on a ranch with narcissistic asshole fathers like him. I can see that the show really tries its best to make him one of the good ones by surrounding him with even worse people, but I’m really hoping it ends realistically and he dies alone without anyone to look after his ranch and “legacy”…

Thats why I appreciate the show "Banshee" so much. It told a great story in 4 seasons and then ended. Someone here recommended that show and Im so glad they did.

Yeah, I just don't see how they can pull a rabbit out of the hat and save this season and give hope for next.

On an unrelated note after Yellowstone 1886 restarted so I watched the opening again. The aftermath at the Dunker Church at the Battle of Antietam. Was that Tom Berenger playing the Union Officer giving comfort to Tug McGraw's dipshit son?

Mine was Justified. 6 seasons of awesome, and it ended well, if not a slight bit unsatisfying. Great show that knew when to end.

Tom Hanks

Seriously?

According to IMDB, yes. I just watched it again, it's him.

Well I'll be damned did see that one at all. I thought for sure it was Berenger.

Who thinks it will come out that the guy that Jamie's mom was cheating with was John Dutton and he really is John's son, not his adopted one.

LOL. Days Of Our Lives

Don't let the big beard fool ya

I saw Castaway.

I was fooled for sure but this photo confirms it.
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He was Playing General George Mead which I was also wrong on as I figured Gen Hooker who was prominent in the fighting around the Dunker Church. Gen Mead was temporary General in charge of the Battlefield.

As it turns out, McGraw is actually old buddies with Hanks.

"You never want to botch a scene when you got Tom Hanks in there with you," McGraw told Cinemablend. "But yeah, he's a great guy. We've been friends for a long time. Rita, his wife, and Faith are best friends, and Tom and I've been friends for 25 years, 24 years. I knew that there was this part in there, and I gave him a call said, 'Hey, would you be interested in showing up doing a cameo in this show that we're doing?' And he goes, 'Tell me when to be there,' and he just showed up.'"

I'm hoping for massive meteor to end the season, killing everyone.

I thought they pushed Justified a season or two too long. But no where near the point that they came any where near ruining it. They did realize they needed to end it before it got to that point and loved the series enough to do so instead just chasing the money. One of my top 5 all time favorite shows.


Also, a thread request: can we spoiler the 1886 talk? I’m waiting for that and Mayor of Kingstown to complete before I suspend my Hulu account for a month and get P+ to binge them and then resume Hulu.

In GBlowWorld, wolves are the new warlords . . . ;)

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On a related note, the name of the show is 1883.

Eff John I can understand, eff him the most I think it's fair to ask for additional exposition.

Is it just the personality? His paternal/leadership position?

Are there specific traits or acts that single him out in particular?

From my POV, he's hard and entitled and often dispassionately criminal, but he's rarely irrational or wrong in his assessment of the merits of the situation. There's plenty not to like about him, but don't see where he's the top dog to go get effed.

I enjoyed most of the first three seasons but this season has been a total drag with the plot going nowhere. Kaycee (sp?) on his personal walkabout, Jamie being Jamie (why is that piece of s**t still alive?), Rip mostly following Beth around like a moon-eyed lap dog, Beth going from being an absolute bad*** to just plain evil and mean, with a side order of bunkhouse bunnies, horses going in circles and sliding on their butts. I usually fast forward through scenes involving Jimmie or Monica. The last episode might be a barn burner but I don't think it could save this season. :ZZZ:

It just hits too close to home having friends that grew up in similar situations. What John has done to all of his kids is obviously hardcore child abuse, but it gets a pass in small communities like this, because it’s seen as “toughening you up.” It’s passed down from abusive father to abusive father in ranching communities like this and it’s just too close to a reality that I’ve seen first hand to root for an asshole like him.

This is completely unrelated [creatively] to Yellowstone, but looks to be, in the words of the immortal Paul Harvey, the rest, . . . of the story, regarding the politics of land and land usage out west.

And I haven't seen anything but the trailer, so it's premature for the 'must see series' thread . . . ;)

And I clicked on it in youtube recommends not expecting much, . . . But then, DAG, Sharon Lawrence, . . . is that MICHAEL DORMAN?!?!

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I have actually enjoyed the new character "Carter", the stray boy, played by Finn Little for the most part.
Tough love would be my call so far, but I didn't care for the idea of making him a card shark.
No ****ing way can I fit that into reality.
The protest chick that ****ed John is also a nice twist IMO.
Somehow I would like to see them fade Beth's facial scar out, it's just wrong on such a beautiful woman.

much better tonight

REALLY??

I'm halfway through it, and I'm ****ing hating this ridiculous farce. We have gone through a whole season where nothing happened...I have about 30 minutes left. I'm watching the "wedding" scene.

Just finished. Seriously, someone explain what happened this season that was really noteworthy?

I'm gonna binge it I guess, but this season sucked. You could miss it entirely and it would make no difference.

Total disappointment.

Pretty disappointing season all in all. I fast forwarded through most of Kayce's parts. Not sure what the hell that was all about. I don't really give a damn about the protestor chick, nor about Jimmy coming back just to leave again.

Tyler got the green light on two spinoffs, that's the long and short of what happened this season.

Try watching it in normal speed. It might help. I always find it difficult to understand any show when I fast forward through it.

My take on the last second wedding has to do with Beth saying there is something she needs to do today (wedding, then Jamie) and then once married confronting and threatening Jamie with 2 choices, one of which was Rip would kill him. Then a wife can't testify against a husband and vice versa. Her plan all along I think was to have Jamie kill dad, she knew he would break and she did say there is a third option thus finishing up that loose end. She put the gun on his desk when she was using his computer and I'm guessing left it there. And then the photo she takes at the train station of Jamie and Dad. That's cold on a Michael Corleone level.

I still wish they would stay on a story/idea longer. That may create more episodes.

Maybe it is the way tv is today-short attention spans. I am used to ER. but the Chicago shows dont always give a lot of info.

My opinion.

I'd like a conjugal visit with Beth in that Gold dress...

The gun she had was nickel plated, the gun he shot him with was black. But whatever. That was a long way to go for something that honestly makes no difference in the long run. Oooooohh she made him kill his daddy and then got a picture of him dumping the body so she could use that against him...whatever.

I'm serious, I haven't been this angry at a show since the finale of GoT. Let's review:

Monica, Kayce and the kid: Kayce is one of the best characters in this show. He was a complete and total no show this season. Monica was used sparingly (thank GOD) and the kid...pretty non-existent.

John Dutton - Did nothing. At all. Except screw some young protester chick who we're supposed to feel sorry for for some reason at the last episode.

Jamie - has become so much a whiny weak prick that I honestly wish option 3 was for him to kill himself.

Rip and Beth - whatever.

Jimmy and the bunk house - I did not sign up to watch a goddamn soap opera, but that's pretty much what we got.

If this was season one, this show would never have gotten more seasons. This season was so bad as to be completely ignore-able. NOTHING HAPPENED. Beth's bad ass persona was played out and overbearing given the lack of any real problems this season.

**** this show.

I think you are correct. I believe the ultimate plan was to own Jamie so John can drop out of the governor race and let Jamie become governor. Then they can control what happens with the corporation that is trying to build on the ranch.

Bingo, I think you nailed it. I actually enjoyed this season unlike most on here. A few new characters etc.

WTH is Beth gonna do with that picture? There is probably at least 50 bodies at that spot and if Jamie goes down for murder the entire family goes with him.

This season seemed to be to pimp out Sheridan's new shows more than moving the plot along.

But Season 5 sets up Beth vs Market Equities, Jamie's governor run, Kayce and Indian chick falling out love, and another spinoff with Jimmy down in Texas.

The first movie I saw her in was Flight with Denzel Washington and I liked her ever since.

Any proof that ties them all to the Dutton clan? It would be a he said/she said at that point, with the biggest piece of evidence being the video/picture showing Jamie there. They could just as easily pin them all on him.

Also, he's too much of a pussy and too easily manipulated to push back much. He clearly bends at any hint of opposition, so it's pretty believable that he would cave to Beth's demands in that scenario. Now that his dad is gone who does he have to lean on to push back against the Duttons?

Season 4 wasn’t on the level of what I was expecting but I still enjoyed it and looking forward to season 5. I hated Rip not being a major character this year, freaking Jimmy had more scenes than him, WTF. Also was very disappointed in how Kayce was portrayed this season, he’s the 2nd best character, only behind Rip, but what a wasted season for him.

Worthless season. The show went full on stupid with Beth just walking around being an evil bitch. What company hires the daughter of the land owner they are trying to get land from and on top of that on who speaks to people the way she does? It's idiotic.

Jamie being terrified of everything that comes out of her mouth is ****ing stupid. He saved her life years ago and she is hell bent of hurting him all the time even though she made him take her there. Classic woman that won't take responsibility for her actions. 4 seasons of that shit is stupid and he's a lawyer and they hate him so why would he stay there? Just leave and go be a lawyer somewhere else.

The ranch hands are all shit actors. The more try and make them funny and likeable the more it looks like they are trying to make them likeable and funny. Horrible job all the way around.

Kayce going all Dances with Wolves like an Indian is maybe the dumbest shit of all.

Yeah, back-benching Kaycee and Rip all season so you can get a shitload of Jimmy and Lloyd was sure an interesting decision.

Oh well - looks like they've fully embraced Carter as replacement Tate so I'm okay with that.

Yeah S:4 was pretty disappointing comparatively. But let's be real here, I've watched and stuck with less enjoyable shows as they went along. The problem is we're comparing it to S:1-3 which is really REALLY good TV. This isn't that, but to be fair, they set the bar and they're not living up to their own standard. If it was overhyped, that's one thing, but it's a step down from their own show.

I love Rip, moar Rip always and forever. I understand you can't have Rip just being a total testosterone monster all the time, so I understand him taking a different direction for a few episodes.

Same with Costner. My GOD that dude can still throw 100. He can turn it on, throw a little gravel in his voice and read a speeding ticket and make it goddamned compelling. Throw a little emotional crossroads at him and I'm hooked every time.

I could go along with the story line, whatever. It was disjointed sure. But I could get around that just like the math problems on the acres, cows, capital, and number of people to do the work. I'm fine with that.

I didn't hate the Jimmy and Lloyd stuff. Jimmy's arc completion was actually pretty satisfying IMO, even though it was lazy as all ****. Lloyd/Walker shit gets a pass from me because frankly it's cool as **** that Ryan Bingham is on my TV. All that is definitely not great but liveable TV.

Beth...woof it's a little harder to swallow. She gets a ton of rope from me because Kelly Reilly is ****ing shiny. But everything regarding her employment is absolutely inexplicable. Like this big ass investment firm (my experience is limited here, but everything in that universe has been focused on returns for each manager to a reeruned level) hired her with no real responsibilities or job titles, she did no real work - ever, very little interaction with anyone from the company and absolutely no feedback or interaction regarding her job duties. That's dumb. I didn't even hate Beth being a raging **** the whole time, because let's be real here - I'd be an furious hulking monster in that situation too. But her storyline went off the rails a good bit here.

And that sucks because comparatively they do a good job with Jamie of showing him in an attorney generals office, taking meetings, looking at (presumably) discovery/investigation stuff. He interacts with his staff and boss some. It's fine. He does a good job. There is a lot of hate for Jamie's character, but I'm not really turned off by a ton of it other than the "I'm pulling a gun on you dad -->I LOVE YOU DAD" shit. But whatever. He's coming apart at the seams. I can live with most of that.

Kaycee has always been all over the place. And I won't lie, him hanging out in the hills over the house in a gunny suit was damned enjoyable television. They had an opportunity to allow him to find some focus and carve out his place in the show. Nope. Other way - he goes full walkabout and nary a word from John.

Where it really lost me though, was a SHITLOAD of the charm and hook of the show was simple cowboy one liners that they define as the basis for their decision making. And to this point, they hadn't really ****ed them all up...until now.

We branded you - you're Yellowstone for life. NOPE You don't owe me nothing.
Everything is for family. I want my kids here. NOPE You find a new home.
Everything for the ranch. **** everybody else. NOPE Morality matters with this chick who hates everything I'm fighting for.
There is no fighting on the ranch. If you want to fight someone fight me. I'll fight you all day long. NOPE chicks - fire away.
I'm leaving to go barrel racing. I'm a barrel racer. NOPE Jimmy is showing back up so...I'm in a scene...I guess?
Kid's got a long way to go. NOPE Let's play poker.

The reality of it is that they made an entire season of small, forgivable mistakes, if each one was by itself in a good season. But they rolled it all up into a bag of shit.

I'm still in. I'll still watch, but this while it was still an enjoyable watch, it was bad. Especially in comparison to what they're capable of. They still do a lot of the ranch/scenery stuff, which is a good piece. That makes up for a lot of ****ery. But damn man, if you need to take a segment of an episode off, write in more of the biker scene less ****ery with this season. I'd rather watch a mailed in biker fight than a mailed in Beth cussout or kid being a douche. More biker fights.

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Just finished the finale, all in all it wasn't quite as bad as I've been hearing or expected it to be

Just glad they finally got some pointless storylines outta the way, like...

Jimmy is a bona fide cowboy now and went back to Texas, excellent

Kayce met his spirit animal, a super hot native girl disguised as a wolf... we didn't learn a ****ing thing from it other than he had an ugly firefight in Afghanistan, but at least we got it outta the way

As for Jaime, wow what a pussy... he'll be dead by Johns hand at some point

The judge caved in for John, the enviro chick gets a slap on the wrist... whatever

My biggest gripe for this episode is when Beth visits the dude in prison, he is serving a life sentence already... so what was keeping him from strangling her ass to death right then and there?

Total bullshit, any real wacko convict already serving life would've tortured her to death in that room

Honestly just glad to get it over with, I'll be going into season 5 with a VERY jaundiced eye, if we even get a season 5 because... just yesterday read a headline on yahoo that went something like "Yellowstone fans might be waiting even longer than expected for season 5"

Yeah, because Sheridan is too busy with 46 other projects to give Yellowstone the time and attention its fans deserve

It is looking like they used Yellowstone to launch 1983 and Mayor of Kingstown. They keep playing the first couple episodes of those two over and over and I guess you have to buy Paramount Plus to get any further episodes of the new shows. Could be wrong though.

You do.

And the arc with Jimmy was setting up the spin-off series based on the 6666.

Well, I guess some are way more forgiving of this shit fest of a season than I am. I honestly can not see how after 3 seasons of awesome that anyone could look at this season as anything other than dull, pointless, and stupid. Needless to say, it takes all kinds. If this season was even considered passable to some of you, then you are definitely the target audience. I ain't...

The big issue here is John doesn't fear anyone. There hasn't been an adversary where he's out strategized or beaten in the past where there's history between said rival.

I was thinking the same exact thing. Why does she hate him so much and blame him solely for that? Didn't she want him to take her to the clinic to get that abortion? Didn't she want to hide the fact she was pregnant from Rip and everyone else? I get that she didn't want to be sterilized but she wasn't a baby when they did that and it's safe to assume she wasn't stupid either. She should've known what she was in for at that clinic. To blame it all on him is ridiculous and he should've told her to **** off a long time ago.

All the times she has attacked him physically or thrown shit at his face. He should've grabbed her and put her ass in timeout until she can behave like a grown up. But he's a pussy apparently. Dude lived his entire life to serve his father and the ranch. Became the attorney general. And in return they've shit on him at every turn. He should've left them in the dust a loooong time ago. Too late now.

This has bothered me since the time it was revealed. It makes sense that someone like Beth would hold this against him, but after 3 seasons, you would think that at some point this would be resolved the the way you describe. I mean, she was what, 14, 15? Jamie was 18 or 19? It was how long ago? I get Beth, I don't get Jamie. I could see him apologizing and feeling guilty for awhile, but after years and years of her behavior, he should be done with that shit. Yet every scene he becomes more and more like a little boy. It's annoying, and IMO no very realistic.

To each their own, but put me in the camp of not being impressed with season 4. Other than the first episode, it was pretty much a waste of time.

It's also poor character development. He's killed two people and dumped their bodies. That doesn't make somebody more of a pussy, it makes them less afraid of everyone. The picture thing at the end is also stupid. If she showed the cops years later what is her story going to be on covering up the crime. Jamie could claim he was helping her.

The fear factor of Rip is also tired. He's not super human. A gun will kill him.

You guys are missing a major point of contention in the relationship that happened at the end of S3. Jamie actually LEASED part of the land to the investment firm. He actually did it as a power of attorney for the ranch.

That's why John shut him out, that's why Beth went from to ****ing nuclear.

PLUS

Beth thinks Jamie was behind the assassination attempts.

Beth has always treated him badly but she turned that shit to 11 after he leased part of the ranch for the airport.

There's a response to hearsay objections: "Not introduced to prove the truth of the matter asserted..."

In other words, you're saying that the hearsay should be allowed in not for what it is saying, but for its impact on the person that initially heard it.

So what you have here isn't that it's logical or fair for Beth to be as angry at Jamie as she is. Or even that Jamie isn't fed up with her shit (he noted as much in season three during the first 'showdown' with John; she was a part of the abortion as well). But that Jamie knows full well that if Beth brings that information to Rip, Rip will tear his arms off and beat him to death with them. Or if she tells John that Jamie knew his dad organized the hit and then sat on that information while getting even cozier with dear old dad, then Jamie knows John will have him killed for that.

I think Jamie knows, and has even stated aloud, that Beth is being wholly unreasonable. But he also knows that not everyone involved in this discussion is going to be swayed by his attempted logic i.e. Rip and John.

The truth and/or fundamental fairness of Beth's grudge as to Jamie isn't relevant. Because ultimately it will present a very real problem for Jamie if/when 3rd parties find out.

But didn't she also acknowledge to John early in the season (or maybe it was Kaycee) that the Lease was a 'best of bad options' scenario? I think where she got so upset with Jamie was that he ghosted the family after the hit. And in so doing he seems to have given her the impression that he was more involved in it than he was. I don't think the lease really did much for her. And I think John had already started to box Jamie out even before he leased the property - hence his shock when Jamie pulled the trigger. He thought he'd transferred that POA to Beth but he'd done it in the wrong state, IIRC.

John continued to try to convince Beth that Jamie wasn't responsible for the hit before he just laid it out there. And at that point she kinda pivoted to the prisoner guy...until she found out that he talked to Jamie. Then she was right back to pissed at Jamie because she'd re-convinced herself that he was part of it.

She's just kinda been on the warpath after the attack. And since she got blown up a bit, that seems understandable. Boy the working for market equities side-trip sure was wasted energy, though. That felt, just as much of the season did, like filler. Was it all just to show the depth of her temper? She'd go through all of that just to fire Bob after he wasn't really even directly responsible for her fall in Season 3?

S4 was a complete waste of time for me. Bored me to tears. The incessant focus on Jimmy and 4 6's made me want to jam a red hot poker into my eyeballs.

I am digging 1883, so there's that....

The problem with the lease, and I think they did a shit job of explaining it or at least reinforcing it was property taxes. The lease didn't provide a ton of revenue, some but not material enough to matter after development takes place the property taxes for the Ranch (presuming there is an entity, if not it's just John getting ****ed here) after they goddamn explode when development happens. They touched on it early on, but if development moves in, even if it's on neighbors farm that will drive the property tax rates up to an unprofitable level, and they lose the ranch to insolvency.

What Jamie did, alleviated the immediate pressure, but absolutely devastated the ranch by allowing development to move forward.

I'd have to go back and re-watch, but that's the way I understood the economics of the thing on the Ranch's end.

RE: Bob. I don't remember exactly, but he hung her out to dry once market equities overpowered him. I dunno. She was pissed. Whatever.

Some of my notes:

-Yes, in comparison to other seasons this was boring.
-Huge setup for Season 5 though. All that development shit out of the way, they have an opportunity to bring the show back with a bang.
-Less Beth. She's just an evil **** running around being an obnoxious bitch... I don't even see why guys are attracted to her. **** all that.
-More Kaycee. They have been dicking around with this huge potential of a character for far too long. All of that walkabout shit better be over with, it's time for him to shine.
-Get Jimmy off the show... nobody cares about that storyline. How you are going to do a spinoff show based in 6666 ranch is going to be impressive. But I dunno, I thought the same about "better call saul" which turned out amazing.
-Beth being at exact spot that the body was being dumped at the exact time to take the picture, then just walks off (did anyone see her car parked somewhere?) was ****ing stupid lazy directing.

I'll still watch Season 5 because they have wasted a season setting up to it. It better pack a punch or I may be done with the show.

Finally all caught up. Love the **** out of this show!

I don't even know how Taylor Sheridan finds time to sleep (between Yellowstone, Yellowstone's prequel show 1883, Mayor of Kingstown and various other film projects in the works) he is a machine at this point.

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I gave Hell or High Water a re watch last night on Netflix and can't get enough of that film. Sure bank robbery films have been done to death but there was something so fresh and unique about Hell or High Water. The chemistry between Bridges and his partner was so authentic as well as the chemistry between the two bank robbing brothers (they were quite funny too) Sheridan's Oscar nom for Best Original Screenplay was well deserved (ditto on its Best Picture nom and Jeff Bridges' Oscar nom)

Anyways sorry for getting off topic but I think Taylor Sheridan is one of the most talented artists in Hollywood and we're lucky to have him.

If Jamie REALLY wanted to **** John, he technically could've just sold the place. And really, he should've.

I saw the lease as a tactical retreat. Had they dug their heels in and attempted to block the development outright, they'd have gotten steamrolled. By leasing it, they don't actually cut off any options to fight later and in the meantime they get a bit of a cash infusion that could bankroll that battle.

It seemed to me that the writing was on the wall w/r/t the near term issues with the lease. And he still maintains ownership of the land, even with a long-term lease on it. Had Jamie refused to lease it, it was likely that the Governor was going to use eminent domain to simply transfer ownership outright and again, cut off some options.

The lease was a way to slow the burn, save some powder and regroup for a fight on firmer ground, IMO.

Since Beth had an abortion and they scooped out her box when she was 15, would that make her a lousy lay? Or would she make up for it in other ways? At least you could do whatever and not worry about pregnancy.

To your last point, its not farfetched to think she knows where the "train station" is

I agree. But the fact remains that everybody saw it as a betrayal. And I don't know anything about the law, but there is a pretty good argument that he breached the fiduciary responsibilities of his POA.

I know my Dad would be pissed if I did something similar with his ground and there aren't near the stakes.

Bottom line though, Jamie put them in an unsustainable position.

**** all the characters except Rip and Carter.
This season was a complete waste.