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Hypothetical speaking. If we win a super bowl with smith as QB there is no way you start Mahomes right?
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That said, I think this is all about Green Bay and a non-commitment to the Chiefs moreso than any misses. |
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The franchise that kept crappy GM's such as Jack Steadman and Carl Peterson on board for decades, suddenly decides to get impatient with a generally successful (although certainly not perfect) GM in Dorsey.
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I don't think Ballard would have been picked. Dorsey brought Ballard in, not Andy.
Brett Veach was a guy Andy brought over to be on Dorsey's team. He's his guy. |
I'll wait and see his replacement before I completely lose my shit.
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Do not worry. |
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Who would you guys want to be the new gm?
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I has the sad.
Meanwhile Cochise is killing it with GIFs. ROFL |
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The timing of this is bad for any competent outside hire, unless Reid wants a yes man. |
Had to let Ballard go too, the GM has to be some dude who use to work for the Eagles so he won't even question what Reid wants to do, no checks no balances.
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Makes you wonder if this has anything to do with the way they handled the Maclin situation
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If John Dorsey heads back to Green Bay as expected, that pretty much rules out Eliot Wolf for the next decade, so he'd probably be the first guy I'd interview. |
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Sure, he whiffed on FA's and overpays at times. Who ever comes in and replaces him will likely do worse, or as good at best. Dorsey was ballin'. |
The new GM will be one of Andy's sons.
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Per Ian Rapoport
There are few news stories I can remember generating as many stunned, dumbfounded reactions as John Dorsey being out in KC. Very respected |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are few news stories I can remember generating as many stunned, dumbfounded reactions as John Dorsey being out in KC. Very respected</p>— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/877996838116220928">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Dorsey is a top-10 GM in the NFL. If he's not safe, no one is. I've learned more about front office football from him than anyone else.</p>— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/877994367516114944">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
What the ****!
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Dude made too much money. You can't extend or rework that contract, same deal as Charles, we had to let him go. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm told Andy Reid will not take over GM duties. He'd done both at the end in Philly. Chiefs are looking for a replacement for Dorsey.</p>— Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/877992205096321024">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I could see it being Tom Gamble if they don't hire within
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Clark dropped some hints.
This is either about Dorsey wanting to shop around or Dorsey's lack of cap management skills. |
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He would have been another teams GM in 2018. I would be shocked if it's not him. |
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If Dorsey didn't want to sign an extension due to the possibility of Green Bay opening up next year, it was the right move to fire him at this point. |
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So now Dorsey replaces Elway and high fives Bowlen telling him Mahomes will bust and the Chiefs are ****ed for 5 years and don't even have a 1st next year.
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Might be waiting awhile so this might help |
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You're not a contrarian yet you're the only guy in this thread pretending that Dorsey has done nothing. |
What a ****ing debacle.
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KK is on WHB talking to Herm about what happened. Talk about two clueless boobs trying to explain something like this...
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Quick! Lets start spreading rumors that Dorsey is an alcoholic wife beater with a gambling problem!
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What a kick in the balls! Now what? Who will be the GM?
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This ramps up the heat on Clark big-time. Even with the Packers stuff in the background, if you are Clark, you have to lock Dorsey up.
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WTF was Clark thinking?
I just don't understand. |
I think this sucks.
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Dorsey made a lot of mistakes with Free Agents and contracts for aging players. He will always have a place in my heart though for moving up in the draft and finally drafting a QB to end the Blackledge Curse.
Best wishes. |
There are reasons to be really uneasy about all of this. It's quite possible that Dorsey was really only effectively the chief scout. Seems like we drafted pretty well but our free agent signings weren't very good -- and those could have been Reid's calls. Who knows? We really don't know how much power Dorsey had at anything.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Shocked," one NFL decision-maker told me. "Top-to-bottom best roster in the league." There is internal surprise, too.</p>— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/877997883622129665">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs and John Dorsey did not agree to part ways, per source. Chiefs dismissed John Dorsey, per source. Their decision.</p>— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/877998847858835456">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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It's all about the money.
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I wonder if Dorsey wanted to be the highest paid GM in the league and Clark told him to kick rocks.....
If that's the case then **** you Clark Hunt. |
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Herm Edwards on 810 now.
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I hope they at least fired him by voicemail.
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I better start seeing some rumors about Dorsey's addiction to opiates....
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Conspiracy theory: Chiefs were becoming to competitive so the NFL told hunt they had to release Dorsey to go to a more favored team.
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Per Tom Pelissero
Among issues I've heard #Chiefs brass had with John Dorsey: Didn't get some big deals done early (e.g. Houston, Berry). Cost them more later |
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Or recent events -- Maclin? -- pissed off Clark? |
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A top priority this offseason should have been to lock up Dorsey or Ballard long term. The Chiefs absolutely bungled that responsibility. |
Apparently they had been having contract talks then chiefs decided to let him go.
Something weird happened |
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Based on the discussions here, a few of us should be sending our resumes to the Clarks....
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This puts a huge damper on our future . Dorsey and Reid seemed to work so well together.
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Clark is obviously not happy with how the Chiefs salary cap has been managed... Trip MacCracken, Will Lewis and now Dorsey.
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Reid and Dorsey have the same agent
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It's like you are completely ignoring what Dorsey did with this roster and giving all the credit to Reid. Nobody is saying Reid didn't coach it up, but the talent was actually there for him to do it. That's because of Dorsey. |
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Clark planned to extend Both Big Red and Dorsey. Andy signed his contract while Dorsey drug his feet, with an eye towards Green Bay. Once the Reid contract was finalized, Clark said times up...pulled the extension to Dorsey allowing him to pursue the Green Bay GM job, dictated a hastily written letter to his secretary and quickly emailed it to panicked season ticket holders. |
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This is why our GMs never draft first round QBs. Penalty is swift termination.
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Probably a lot of tension since the Mahomes pick.
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Check out @AllbrightNFL's Tweet: https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/sta...885645312?s=09
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The only thing I can think of is the Green Bay situation which would make sense
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