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FloridaMan88 06-02-2017 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12899733)
We all have different temperaments but yeah he sucked most athletes use the game as an out

He was also dealing with a serious groin injury which was more than likely the bigger negative impact on his performance.

DaneMcCloud 06-02-2017 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12899718)
Actually I have two degrees from UM. Next.

Oh and by the way you are fat and said this:



ROFL

If you have two degrees from Miami, that school should be shuttered immediately.

I don't buy it for one hot minute.

kccrow 06-02-2017 08:48 PM

I understand the cap prospective, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend I'm in some delusional world where this was a net positive from a personnel perspective. Maclin was a good receiver.

Tyreek Hill offset Maclin's drop in production in 2016. Hill and Conley will both likely have to produce more this season to offset the loss because I'm doubtful that a handful of rookies and a 2nd year guy that could only muster 4 snaps are going to do it. I don't think that's a huge stretch to expect 800 yards each out of Conley and Hill and 200 yards out of a rookie, but it still has to happen just to break even. We'll see how it transpires, but I'm certainly not jumping up and down about this transaction at the moment.

Reerun_KC 06-02-2017 08:51 PM

So when it mattered { playoffs not regular season ). Did maclin ever play it contribute while in KC?

FloridaMan88 06-02-2017 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12899739)
If you have two degrees from Miami, that school should be shuttered immediately.

I don't buy it for one hot minute.

I'll take that as a compliment since you "buy" this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12649712)
Alex Smith is a Franchise QB. Period. End of story.


DaneMcCloud 06-02-2017 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12899748)
I'll take that as a compliment since you "buy" this:

Prove otherwise.

Thanks in advance.

CajunChief 06-02-2017 08:57 PM

So it looks like every pass play KC will run next season is Hill on the fly, Kelce over the middle and everyone else on a check down.

RunKC 06-02-2017 08:58 PM

I think Andy and John saw an injury prone receiver that couldn't justify his salary and knew we had the resources to make him expendable.

Conley was the 3rd WR last year and had about the same amount of yards as Maclin. Wilson had the same amount of TD's. It's a hell of a bargain to keep those 2 combine for $12 million less.

It was also interesting to hear our scout say that Chesson doesn't need much development bc he's knowledgeable of the game from his time at Michigan.

jspchief 06-02-2017 08:58 PM

I have a hard time believing this offense will be better without Maclin than they would have been with him.

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Sandy Vagina 06-02-2017 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12899755)
I have a hard time believing this offense will be better without Maclin than they would have been with him.

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can't possibly argue with this...

jaa1025 06-02-2017 09:01 PM

Pretty cold that Reid was just at his wedding.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-02-2017 09:01 PM

Make or break year for Conley

Red Dawg 06-02-2017 09:02 PM

I am stunned but I want Conely to get more catches. He's young and fast. Mack in not worth the cash and he wouldn't be around next year for Mahomes anyway.

Couch-Potato 06-02-2017 09:05 PM

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/06/...anquan-boldin/

Anyone else find it interesting that this article posted 8hrs ago about the various sports writers that have very recently mentioned Boldin as a fit for Chiefs?

Boldin was better than Maclin last year, and doesn't disappear in the Red Zone, plus he costs a fraction of Maclin's contract. I'd be fine with a 1+1 or 2 year contract if it means we also get Hodges or Revis!

That's better personnel value than Maclin

nychief 06-02-2017 09:07 PM

Sucks. Loved Mack. He looked diminished physically last year.


Next guy up.

HonestChieffan 06-02-2017 09:07 PM

Choke on the big bucks.....sad to see him go but the money is the ticket these days. He had no tie to KC, its show me the money....

mcaj22 06-02-2017 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 12899769)
https://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/06/...anquan-boldin/

Anyone else find it interesting that this article posted 8hrs ago about the various sports writers that have very recently mentioned Boldin as a fit for Chiefs?

Boldin was better than Maclin last year, and doesn't disappear in the Red Zone, plus he costs a fraction of Maclin's contract. I'd be fine with a 1+1 or 2 year contract if it means we also get Hodges or Revis!

That's better personnel value than Maclin

we arent getting Hodges

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-02-2017 09:08 PM

I guess if "franchise QB" is just a silly term with no meaning whatsoever, we can go ahead and knight Smith.

Otherwise, I believe it would be best to just recant the statement and call it too much whiskey so we can all get the **** on with our lives.

Red Dawg 06-02-2017 09:09 PM

We need our draft picks at WR to play not sit behind over old vets.

Couch-Potato 06-02-2017 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12899775)
we arent getting Hodges

?

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-02-2017 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12899778)
We need our draft picks at WR to play not sit behind over old vets.

This should be the case with as many positions as possible. During this throw away season, we should be getting the newest blood some experience in preparation for the coming of the Franchise QB, and all of the awesomeness it will entail.

Pablo 06-02-2017 09:12 PM

Third season is the one that matters in Reid's system. Obvioulsy Jeremey couldn't get it down. Sad.

mcaj22 06-02-2017 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 12899779)
?

he signed with Buffalo

nychief 06-02-2017 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 12899786)
Third season is the one that matters in Reid's system. Obvioulsy Jeremey couldn't get it down. Sad.



Um, he played for Reid for years in Phillips too...

Couch-Potato 06-02-2017 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12899785)
This should be the case with as many positions as possible. During this throw away season, we should be getting the newest blood some experience in preparation for the coming of the Franchise QB, and all of the awesomeness it will entail.

Bah-Humbug! Sign Revis and Josh Gordon, trade a pick for an ILB. lol

FloridaMan88 06-02-2017 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 12899759)
Pretty cold that Reid was just at his wedding.

http://www.jcheraldtribune.com/wp-co.../idddida.0.jpg

Shaid 06-02-2017 09:16 PM

Wow, no way did I expect to log in and see this today.

Tribal Warfare 06-02-2017 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12899702)
The simplest explanation is usually correct.

Ergo, brokedick.

In any case who cares. 2017 is largely meaningless. Transition year.

Alex ain't it, and 2PM is being prepared for his shot

Anyong Bluth 06-02-2017 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 12899759)
Pretty cold that Reid was just at his wedding.

Maybe this is his wedding gift...


...because Chiefs

Tribal Warfare 06-02-2017 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12899792)

The grim reaper short, Alex is the only player left, and he's going bye bye too.

RealSNR 06-02-2017 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12899726)
The latest from Homerville, the Chiefs cut Maclin because they simply had too many offensive weapons. ROFL

Who ****ing said that?

Sandy Vagina 06-02-2017 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12899803)
The grim reaper short, Alex is the only player left, and he's going bye bye too.

how could there be a better, falsely conceived gif?


https://media.giphy.com/media/xZwCTfI3EBBF6/giphy.gif

Tribal Warfare 06-02-2017 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12899817)
how could there be a better, falsely conceived gif?


https://media.giphy.com/media/xZwCTfI3EBBF6/giphy.gif

And the Alex only fans response.

#TARGETACHIEVED

staylor26 06-02-2017 09:35 PM

Conley breakout year confirmed

This was a bit shocking at first, but it's the right move. We need to start creating cap space to keep guys like Ford, Peters, Hill, and Jones.

Also, as somebody else already mentioned, Alex is going to put up Alex #'s regardless of who his weapons are.

Pablo 06-02-2017 09:37 PM

So, we all agree that Reek goes for like 1,900 yards and 22 TD's this year right?

RunKC 06-02-2017 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12899823)
Conley breakout year confirmed

This was a bit shocking at first, but it's the right move. We need to start creating cap space to keep guys like Ford, Peters, Hill, and Jones.

Also, as somebody else already mentioned, Alex is going to put up Alex #'s regardless of who his weapons are.

Escobar will help make up for this loss. Alex always looks for the TE's and Escobar could be a decent player this year.

Hoover 06-02-2017 10:00 PM

Maclin seemed a little too Pro-Alex for me.

This move will hurt us in 2017 (I think), but in the end its probably the right thing to do.

DaFace 06-02-2017 10:02 PM

The amount of Alex ranting in threads like these is why I barely even try to talk Chiefs here anymore.

Red Dawg 06-02-2017 10:02 PM

The buck stops with Dorsey, has has player decision power. I remember that was said when he was hired. This may be proof of that.

The Franchise 06-02-2017 10:03 PM

According to the Kansas City Star, free agent Jeremy Maclin "looked spry" in OTA practices and ran with the first-team offense prior to his shocking Friday night release.

Cap expert Joel Corry indicated Maclin's release may have been almost entirely salary-cap related. The Chiefs' only other high-salary, cut-able veteran was Tamba Hali, but his salary is guaranteed. "They had the most cap commitments of anyone in the league for 2018 prior to the (Maclin) move," Corry said. "They’re going to have to do something else next year. They’re not in good shape, cap-wise." The Chiefs' likeliest 2018 move for cap relief is moving on from Alex Smith.

Bob Dole 06-02-2017 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12899853)
The amount of Alex ranting in threads like these is why I barely even try to talk Chiefs here anymore.

Ditto.

notorious 06-02-2017 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12899221)
**** yes

This.

Bye.

Chromatic 06-02-2017 10:16 PM

Getting rid of the best receiver on the team(don't anyone say tyreek is better, he's not) pretty much means the Chiefs are in a sort of proto-rebuild/rearrange mode to get the team ready for Mahomes. Marcus Peters needs to be resigned, Tyreek too. Also getting another WR1 and DT.

Pat Mahomes is Andy Reid's last shot at winning a SB, and I think he knows it, so they're going to make the team the best possible situation for Pat Mahomes to waltz into.

This definitely signals that the team has closed the window on the Alex Smith era.

notorious 06-02-2017 10:20 PM

No rebuilding. No fairy tales.


Maclin wasn't worth his production.

RealSNR 06-02-2017 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12899853)
The amount of Alex ranting in threads like these is why I barely even try to talk Chiefs here anymore.

Blame Alex. If he weren't so frustrating, people wouldn't talk about him all the time.

This shit happens on every Chiefs discussion board I've ever seen. It's not just Chiefs Planet.

RealSNR 06-02-2017 10:23 PM

This is almost the exact same situation when we cut Brandon Flowers.

It was met with shock at first, but eventually we got used to it, and as it turns out, our secondary was just fine. And it was for the best.

notorious 06-02-2017 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12899880)
This is almost the exact same situation when we cut Brandon Flowers.

It was met with shock at first, but eventually we got used to it, and as it turns out, our secondary was just fine. And it was for the best.

Yep.

DaneMcCloud 06-02-2017 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12899880)
This is almost the exact same situation when we cut Brandon Flowers.

It was met with shock at first, but eventually we got used to it, and as it turns out, our secondary was just fine. And it was for the best.

Not by me.

True story.

He choked at Indy.

Buh Bye.

Couch-Potato 06-02-2017 10:30 PM

How do you expect us to spend the cap space?

ClevelandBronco 06-02-2017 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 12899887)
How do you expect us to spend the cap space?

Extend Smith and give him a raise.

notorious 06-02-2017 10:34 PM

I stand by everything I said in the Maclin thread.

Thanks goodness he is gone.

notorious 06-02-2017 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12899889)
Extend Smith and give him a raise.


http://pedestriantv-prod.s3.amazonaw...ite-finger.gif

ToxSocks 06-02-2017 10:36 PM

Im sure this was an incredibly difficult move for the Chiefs to make. I'm generally not one that favors cutting players after a down year, but i'm ok with this move.

I'm betting Maclin was well aware he was on the bubble. He didn't show up to OTA's because it was the vet thing to do, he showed up because he knew his ass was on the line and he had to prove he belonged on the roster.

As crisp as he may have been, he probably wasn't 13.5M dollars crisp.

A very Patriots move...

Eleazar 06-02-2017 10:37 PM

Too bad, he had one fine season but injuries are injuries. Probably time to move on. Especially at that price.

Eleazar 06-02-2017 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12899853)
The amount of Alex ranting in threads like these is why I barely even try to talk Chiefs here anymore.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-30-2014/NM5Tv1.gif

DaneMcCloud 06-02-2017 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12899900)
.

The solution is simple

The new mods chose otherwise.

I did not.

ToxSocks 06-02-2017 10:43 PM

Here's Conley leaping through the air to snatch the ball away from Gaines...

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/p...6-36c8e0ada6cb

Prison Bitch 06-02-2017 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12899855)
According to the Kansas City Star, free agent Jeremy Maclin "looked spry" in OTA practices and ran with the first-team offense prior to his shocking Friday night release.

Cap expert Joel Corry indicated Maclin's release may have been almost entirely salary-cap related. The Chiefs' only other high-salary, cut-able veteran was Tamba Hali, but his salary is guaranteed. "They had the most cap commitments of anyone in the league for 2018 prior to the (Maclin) move," Corry said. "They’re going to have to do something else next year. They’re not in good shape, cap-wise." The Chiefs' likeliest 2018 move for cap relief is moving on from Alex Smith.

That ones a certainty

Iconic 06-02-2017 10:47 PM

Lighting a fire under the rest of the teams ass. I like it.

Our receivers aren't the Frankie Hammond's of the world anymore, Dorsey has stockpiled potential there so I'm honesty okay if we go into the season with what we have.

It'll be a breath of fresh air really.

go bo 06-02-2017 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12899652)
Please **** yourself. And when you're finished? **** yourself again for good measure.



And there's the truth that tingles my balls. Yee-ha!

generally speaking, i prefer a young thang for tingling my balls...

ymmv...

RealSNR 06-02-2017 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go bo (Post 12899922)
generally speaking, i prefer a young thang for tingling my balls...

ymmv...

I'm 36. I'm not old.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 06-02-2017 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12899897)
Im sure this was an incredibly difficult move for the Chiefs to make. I'm generally not one that favors cutting players after a down year, but i'm ok with this move.

I'm betting Maclin was well aware he was on the bubble. He didn't show up to OTA's because it was the vet thing to do, he showed up because he knew his ass was on the line and he had to prove he belonged on the roster.

As crisp as he may have been, he probably wasn't 13.5M dollars crisp.

A very Patriots move...

Yup.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 06-02-2017 11:07 PM

When you have an elite tight end and a solid run game, you can get by on a squad of low end tier 1 and tier 2 receivers

Garcia Bronco 06-02-2017 11:20 PM

lol...this is techincally a bust signing, but solid bailout on the 10 mill, James McClair wasn't a world beater out there.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 06-02-2017 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12899655)
As I've said before, you butt****ing moron, Alex Smith is a Franchise QB.

Look what happened to the 49ers after he was traded.

What he is NOT is a future Hall of Fame QB.

Now, shut the **** up, Child.

:clap:

BlackOp 06-02-2017 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12899741)
I understand the cap prospective, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend I'm in some delusional world where this was a net positive from a personnel perspective. Maclin was a good receiver.

Tyreek Hill offset Maclin's drop in production in 2016. Hill and Conley will both likely have to produce more this season to offset the loss because I'm doubtful that a handful of rookies and a 2nd year guy that could only muster 4 snaps are going to do it. I don't think that's a huge stretch to expect 800 yards each out of Conley and Hill and 200 yards out of a rookie, but it still has to happen just to break even. We'll see how it transpires, but I'm certainly not jumping up and down about this transaction at the moment.

I'm not happy about this either...there has to be an ulterior motive to this more than just saving money. 12-4 teams dont usually cut their #1 WR without having a contingency in place. While Maclin had a bad year, there really isn't anyone to take his place when he's healthy. He knows this system better than than any other WR on the roster.

I dont see how this makes the Chiefs a better team in 2017...

Kind of a raw deal to have him practicing out there in OTAs, risking injury, when they were going to cut him after June 1st. Dorsey did him dirty, IMO.

Sandy Vagina 06-02-2017 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12899938)
When you have an elite tight end and a solid run game, you can get by on a squad of low end tier 1 and tier 2 receivers

works well, if you have a TE that doesn't drop game clinching receptions... or a run game that averages 14 carries a game? :deevee:

pugsnotdrugs19 06-02-2017 11:48 PM

I get the move from a financial perspective. I might even get it from the perspective that they want their young WRs to get game reps, especially since they are more likely to play with Mahomes than Maclin was.

But the bottom line is that the 2017 Chiefs got worse today. No doubt about it. Now, I don't really care all that much, because I knew our odds of winning the SB this year were pretty much nil anyway.

Long term, its probably the right move. Short term, the Chiefs likely suffer.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-02-2017 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12899878)
Blame Alex. If he weren't so frustrating, people wouldn't talk about him all the time.

This shit happens on every Chiefs discussion board I've ever seen. It's not just Chiefs Planet.

This.

I hate it too. No really, I do. I believe every Chiefs fan should look forward to a day when his putrid name never be mentioned again. An entire season is a long time to circle the bowl, but at least the handle has been pushed and the flush of all things Smith has commenced.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12899945)
works well, if you have a TE that doesn't drop game clinching receptions... or a run game that averages 14 carries a game? :deevee:

Guess we'd better get some better weapons for him!

Oh wait...

ROFL

kcchiefsus 06-03-2017 12:09 AM

Might as well cut loose Houston's worthless ass.

pugsnotdrugs19 06-03-2017 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 12899956)
Might as well cut loose Houston's worthless ass.

Oh FFS. :facepalm:

Tribal Warfare 06-03-2017 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12899949)



Guess we'd better get some better weapons for him!

Oh wait...

ROFL

Alex Only Fans tears are so sweet,because of their idols inevitable mediocre careers demise in KC.

penbrook 06-03-2017 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12899957)
Oh FFS. :facepalm:

And Hali as well. Oh and Berry. Taking up all the cap space

Bufkin 06-03-2017 12:50 AM

With moves like this, it's as if the franchise hasn't been to a Super Bowl in almost 50 years, or hasn't won more than 1 playoff game in 24 years.

Simply Red 06-03-2017 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12899957)
Oh FFS. :facepalm:

that guy very well may be the worse football poster on CP.

Simply Red 06-03-2017 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 12899941)
lol...this is techincally a bust signing, but solid bailout on the 10 mill, James McClair wasn't a world beater out there.

we swept you last year so your opinion about our team is irrelevant. No keys? No problem.

Reerun_KC 06-03-2017 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 12899972)
With moves like this, it's as if the franchise hasn't been to a Super Bowl in almost 50 years, or hasn't won more than 1 playoff game in 24 years.

Yeah..... No not even close. It's moves like Alex that keeps this franchise in the dumpster...

Recycling trash for decades is the reason.

Reerun_KC 06-03-2017 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12899945)
works well, if you have a TE that doesn't drop game clinching receptions... or a run game that averages 14 carries a game? :deevee:

ROFL

KCrockaholic 06-03-2017 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12899938)
When you have an elite tight end and a solid run game, you can get by on a squad of low end tier 1 and tier 2 receivers

We've seen this before somewhere. Difference is, that team had a QB who pushed the ball vertically and was smart as hell.

ChiefAshhole1056 06-03-2017 02:04 AM

List of more important player (not in order)-
Berry
Peters
DJ
Houston
Ford
Jones
Fisher
Morse
Schwartz
Kelce
Alex
Tyreek

He was 3rd on the team in cap hit this year. This is what good teams do, and we're trimming the fat. Dorsey recognized that Maclin just wasn't worth the cost over what they feel they have developing. They've always approached positions of need this way where you plug in a serviceable starter and then develop behind it. If anything this should excite Mahomes fans because it proves that this team is not afraid of going young once they feel the position can be handled.


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