Like a GHOST!!!! It was JUST Halloween TOO!

LMAO
@ the Dorn photoshop.

When one of the greatest defenders in history changes his mind and calls Alex an elite Quarterback... Yet there are those who think that 5 years of winning is an accident or outlier??. Foles is a backup, that is all.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-gameda...ter-Chiefs-win

Deion probably has CTE.

Smiff is NOT elite

I was a big Foles proponent back when Andy first came him. Seemed like a no brainer.

Then Andy expressing no interest, followed by his tenure at StL gave me pause as to whether he was a budding Kurt Warner or a budding Scott Mitchell.

Glad to know Andy and he were sympatico enough to regroup here.

Mainly, I'm just glad the team has enough success under its belt to make its QB decisions with zero consideration for fan angst. At this point, it's like appointing a homeless Vietnam vet who karate chops signposts in his off time to run the DoD.

The Jags are very dangerous this week because they are too talented for the performance they laid out last week. If they have any respect for their coach at all remaining, I wouldn't be surprised if their effort wasn't similar to what the Bills put out for Rex Ryan against the Pats the first time around. It still won't be near enough, and Bortles isn't going to correct his shit mechanics in a week, but there will be a stout defensive effort.

Seeing a low-scoring game, and a few tense defensive stands against an impotent Jags O to preserve a late lead, and the QB-centric lunatics will come out in force with their conspiracy theories that Andy sabotaged Foles to preserve Alex's honor.

Being sacked is pretty common in the NFL.

so if Michael Irvin calls Eric Warfield Elite......then he's Elite.


got it.

Boy this news really rustled everyones jimmies

It'll be fun to see Saint Nick again, but no one should be getting their hopes up about a permanent takeover

But Foles is? I am amused with all of the Foles love. Its great people around here that think he is the savior to take this team to the promised land.

This site should be split into 2:

1. Clay and his band of stats obsessed morons

2. People who actually know a thing or 2 about football.

That's why is said sack/fumble, you dipshit. I wouldn't be surprised with a turnover due to poor pocket presence and movement. Go back to the kids table, you illiterate ****.

If you don't like clay, quit responding to him. This isnt rocket surgery.

Most of these comments are done in fun. Mostly people just want to see what this offense looks like with a different QB so we can determine Alex's true value.

I'm a bit of both - I am not for the dismissal of Smith - nor the promotion of Foles - but he'll sure be fun to watch, i'd imagine.

Apparently it is, these mokes just keep the Clay train rolling with their hate. He feeds on it.

Wait till Foles goes full reerun like we've seen before. Meltdown incoming

The site should be split into 2:

1. People who like real quarterbacks

2. People who think every quarterback that the Chuefs bring in is elite

What will be better for ChiefsPlanet?

Foles goes

15-32 for 183 2 TD, 3 INT
or
22-29 for 348 3 TD and 1 INT

The latter.

The former won't generate much discussion other than some "I told you so's".

he really DOES look like Tom Petty's boy!

WHY THE **** IS HE THROWING INTS!?!?!?!

It could have been read the other way as well, bitch boy. How about "I bet Foles fumbles the ball as he's hit at one point during the game". You're just too ****ing lazy to type.

That's the thing that has me puzzled.

This is the guy they want to crown? The guy is roughly the same age Smith was when Smith got here and those same folks said Smith was too old to develop any further. And sure, cite Foles great initial start with Philly but then try not to ignore Smith's 1+ outstanding season in SF before he got here. And Smith's was more recent in time; it was immediately preceding his trade here; we're 2 full seasons removed from Foles most recent successes.

Foles is every bit the flawed prospect that Smith was upon arrival. But because he likes to throw the ball deep and Clay's a ****ing mouthbreather that thinks that's the only way to win, people are all hot and bothered for the guy.

The odds overwhelmingly suggest that Nick Foles isn't very good. Now, he may be a different brand of mediocre and I guess that's fine, but mediocre is what he almost certainly is.

Bad news folks - If Smith isn't capable of taking the Chiefs to a Super Bowl, Foles isn't either. Nick Foles is no sort of force multiplier and never will be.

This is a ****ing COUP bitch.

KING FOLES I HAS SEIZED POWER!!!

http://i.imgur.com/wEx65M8.jpg

Yeah baby!

Neither is our coach. So just enjoy the games for their entertainment value.

I still can not believe they let a newborn leave the hospital under your care.

Because a guy with 35 starts and one elite season is equal to a guy with SEVENTY FIVE and none.

Keep lying to yourself there, buddy.

Holy shit LMAO

WELCOME BROTHER!!!!!

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-30824...dding-SRXv.gif

Hey, I largely agree.

If you view every season that doesn't end in a championship as a waste of time, effort and energy, you're going to be one miserable goddamn sports fan.

Take this shit as it comes; enjoy it when it's going well because there's a good chance that sometime in the next 10 years things won't even be this good. Such is the nature of a cap league.

Don't be mad because he looks better than your ugly ass kids

Agreed.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, sport.

Alex Smith came into KC with his previous 25 starts over 2 seasons being fringe elite whereas Foles 'development' over his last 19 starts over the 2 immediately preceding seasons was so strong that it got him benched and cut for Case Keenum.

Yeah, the arrow was sure pointing up for Nick Foles...

Oh, there was a good joke here regarding you burning down the house....but I'm not gonna start talking shit on kids.

Jesus. Apologize or UNFRIEND at ONCE!!!!!

Bull****ingshit. ROFL

When you can't even sniff 20 TDs in a season you're nothing close to elite.

You know FULL WELL Alex Smith had proven to be nothing more than a game manager at best as soon he came here.

At least we have PROOF that Nick Foles can lead a bonafide aerial assault and not some dumpoff circlejerk. And his ceiling has yet to be realized.

There is absolutely no comparison between the two.

So you're saying Foles at least has an arrow.?

There's no way I'm taking the guy's job who is 15-2 in the last year.

And it's not like this is his first time winning a lot of games.

the only thing i disagree w/ DJLN about was his saying his throws are unnatural (or whichever description, he'd said) - I thought quick release and NATURAL looking throws were the two MAIN things that were traits in Foles. Just from my little bit of watching him play.

It's humorous to me. I enjoy the amusement of it.

Clay suddenly likes retreads after denying them vehemently for the last 6 years.

Guys we have to put the brakes on right HERE! BRB!

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Smith/Foles = Grbac/Gannon

it's called a glimmer of ****ing hope

there was never any with Doug Smith

Perfect summary

the voice of reason.

Jeff Fisher being a ****ing reerun explains much of the Keenum decision

I'm just ****ing around man, don't take shit I say seriously. Except when I say Smith sucks.

Whoa whoa whoa. Now you're making excuses for Foles. :D

Don't forget Andy drafted Foles high. He's just entering his prime so I'm very intrigued.

we'll be fine.

The mustache is a fraud. Glad we didn't get him as coach. Fact is, he is on KC, a much better team and threw down on Sunday. Let's see what happens this week. I am geeked to see it.

NickCuses

Big Dick Nick will make all of you Alexis lovers eat it this week.

Heh, I just dont see anything Jeff Fisher does with his offense being a good barometer of anything

Nobody said he didn't get his bell rung. Twice.

I can say this, and I don't speak for anybody else, but I know Alex Smith isn't elite. That's not where my conversation is directed. But he has won a lot of games. And you may chalk it up to the defense, that's fine. I would much rather watch an awesome defense with a "just good enough" offense when the wins are piling up. Do I think Nick Foles could win games with this team? Absolutely. He's probably good enough. But to sit there and say that he is leaps and bounds better than Alex Smith is illusionary. Hell, I think this team can win a super bowl with either/or at QB. But neither one of them is scratching the surface to being elite. Nick Foles doesn't give this team any better of a chance.

When you have zero chance with the other guy, yes he does.

Imagine if teams had to play catch up against this ****ing defense. ****ing shit.

Foles' 7/10 TD/INT ratio compared to Keenum's 4/1 did have something to do with it.

Don't get me wrong Fishers Offense is a shit show, but Foles was trying to do to much & was literally almost losing games by himself at the end. He started off with a 5/1 TD/INT ratio, after that it was 2/9.

Who gives a shit.

If people here are going to complete erase vast swathes of Alex Smith's shitiful pre-2011 career, I'm going to dump that anomaly from Foles' record.

There. He's 14-4 as a starter in his last 18 starts, with nearly a 4:1 TD/INT ratio! MAGNIFICENT!

Thats fine, but heres how I see it

Foles is in there running a dinosaur system, not only is it outdated but its poorly implemented by the coaches, and poorly called on game day... so he struggles, like all Fisher QBs do

After some rah-rah from the coaches and guys trying to rally around the flag, Keenum comes in and looks slightly better for a few games... but that all fell apart rather quickly, as we now know

Fair enough, but as someone who watched every game it really was Foles trying to do too much. And I say that as someone who was pumped when the Rams traded for Foles & I was also pretty excited when I found out the Chiefs traded for him as I generally agree he got a bad deal with the Rams.

That's the downside to Foles, hopefully here he won't have to do as much, but when pressure's coming he's more likely to just toss it up much like the Hill catch last week. It really is a lot like the controversy we have going on now, Keenum was the guy who wouldn't turn the ball over like Smith is here.

The other thing I will point out is that most of Foles starts happened before Gurley started playing so that definitely figured into the stats as well.

Foles was surrounded by complete shit in STL. People that use his time there as a defense for their position are being lazy.

Personally, I don't think you win games that matter with him or Alex unless you have an epic defense - which we do not.

I really hope that Ware clears protocol, because I would like to see what he and the offense is capable of when the defense has to respect the entire field, and not just a 10 yard box from the LOS.

Kenny Britt, Lance Kendricks, Tavon Austin, Todd Mother ****ing Gurley are not complete shit.

This is what happened to Foles:

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/5156...1-CDC72I5K.jpg

After that hit, Foles was shit. He threw 4 picks that day and eventually was benched because he played like shit after that game as well.

it's actually really bad.. meaning stupid.

Now had Foles been in the league 10 years, and had a shit start in the first 5, and good showing in his last 5, that last 5 would be a more accurate indicator of the QB he is today.

As it is, if being reasonable, studying a QB's career path of recent years far outweighs the years of distant past.

Foles is in yr 5 now.. and should only be judged on those years.
Smith is in yr 12 now.. and should only be judged on his recent years.

If one is being fair and trying to discern what this Qb can bring a team today.

Foles has one great yr and then a concerning few. Smith has a steady and solid 5.

Funny you mention the short field,. As soon as Foles went in Kendall gammons on the broadcast stated that Indy will have to defend the whole field as Foles will put pressure on the DBs were Smith can't.

You were shitting on the defense last week.

I didn't "get it" until I got to "we aren't caught up in your love affair," but this was clever. Good work.

That's that vaunted Packers D, though.

And yet Foles missed a sure TD to West because his short and intermediate accuracy, which is bellweather to Reid's WCO, isn't there.

LMAO

3 of the 4 are hot garbage.

Sorry.

.

If I had a dollar for every time Alex blew a screen/short pass.

C'mon, man.