It doesn't look like that big a deal to me. All those parts except the cv shaft can be got at a salvage yard. If you're not mechanically inclined you're probably just gonna have to pay somebody. But I don't see more than a couple of days work in the driveway there.

dont care, still not buying it.


look dude i do this for a living and see what it takes to total a car with 1200 miles on it out and a curb at 15-25 isnt gonna get it there. sorry

the issue looks as though (through a short car-part.com search) not many people have the knee assembly used. the se-r is the issue.


wheel isnt too big a deal surely they have a reconditioned at LKQ, they are closed so i couldnt check.

sway bar link is 10.00
control arm is 198.00 for a genuine nissan part with ball joint. 143.00 at oreilly.
a new monroe strut is 60 bucks from o reilly

if it doesnt have ABS there is a knuckle at bee line auto salvage in wichita for 90 if it does euroasian auto in wichita has it for 65

i need a better pic of the subframe though.


inner tie rod is 22 outer is 22 both through oreilly.



just to give you an idea.

If that's the parts price they must be killing me on the labor

That, and most shops mark up their parts.

I'm ready to just shut down and no longer give a **** about anything.

Remind me age of this child?

Bud, you've gone above and beyond. You aren't a bad guy for letting him learn a life lesson here.

does it really matter at this point?

Just curious on his decision making. But no. If he's above 16, he needs to learn the value of a dollar and to take care of things.

yeah, well the life lesson always seems to be on the parents. Now we become a ****ing taxi service for him to have a job.

Bus or bike.

Those are all walk in prices. Not wholesale cost. Not sure what the shop's markup percentage is.
And there may be other ruined parts.

Oh and most CV shafts are under 100

busses don't go after 10pm. he works at a pizza place that closes well after that.

I'm just pissed because I'm going get bent over on this shit. I'm tired of getting bent over.

Not sure what his career plans are but guess he'll have to get different job to coincide with public transport. Or as I said, $200 a month back to you each month on a loan.

****, leave it up to him to figure it out. You bail him out on this one you'll be bailing him out his entire life. That's what a certain someone that I'm married to can't seem to figure out either.

Quit enabling it.

Uber? :shrug:

These. Love ya bro. I know you care. We all do. It's time for him to learn.

The problem is we would have no choice but to scrap the car because we have no place to put it that the police woulnd't have a problem with.

You are gonna have to fix the car.


It sucks but lots of shit sucks. Make it drivable and severely restrict the amount of driving he does in your car. It isn't his car until it's paid for in full, at that point he is free to do as he wishes or however you have his free time restricted previously.


He will save more money and can pay off the repairs and the car faster.

Get the car fixed and sell it. Use the money to buy your son this.

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I dunno man, I guess you sealed your fate when you loaned him money for a car that wasn't going to be fully insured. That was a huge risk and you're getting burned by it now. You just have to ask yourself how deep you're willing to get with this...if you loan him the money to fix it, then he's into you for a $7k for a car that's worth only half that. And what if something else happens 6 months from now?

1. Direct your son to youtube.
2. Rent/buy some tools.
3. Make him learn to fix it himself.
4. ????????
5. Profit

Hope it works out for you Guru. Lots of interesting things in this thread.

Could always be worse...uninsured driver totaled my Cherokee about a week ago. 15 years service then POOF! Gone.

....you'll figure out the right thing to do, but it still sucks. Sorry, man.

That is sooo ****ed up. Any hope of getting anything out of the other driver?

They're always deadbeats who owe money to everybody and don't have a job.

All of a sudden I'm really uncomfortable with the fact that I am running liability only on the Jeep I paid $5500 cash for. I hadn't really considered the thought of an uninsured driver taking it out.

Nope.

...get it. I am.

Thing that pisses me off is they'll probably only give me half of what I paid for it if something happens since it's so old. But something is better than nothing I suppose.

LMAO

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I could use a little something about now....

Put me in the "don't do shit and let him learn a life lesson" camp.

Kids are shitheads and often don't understand the value of the dollar, not to mention good decision making.

Happens all the time. You'll have to ask if uninsured motorist PROPERTY damage insurance is available in Nebraska. Because it isn't available everywhere.

When I was a kid my older brother had a cherry 65 Chevy Malibu. Cherry. Metallic blue paint. nice interior, etc. He got T-boned by a Jaguar. Car was totaled.

He used the insurance money to buy a 71 Chevelle. Centerline rims, Edelbrock manifold, stainless braided fuel lines, all that shot. He swerved it into a curb and totaled it.

I was 13 and knew he was a double dumbass.

These scumbags will buy insurance on their car at tag renewal time because you can't get tags without it. Then they just stop paying for it. And I mean they let their ****ing kids drive around without it. I once had a homicide all planned out but decided against it.

It wouldn't fall under either comp or collision? What the hell happens if you live somewhere that doesn't have it and you have a $30k bank loan on your car? There has to be some way to get protection, otherwise no bank could make car loans in those states.

That's full coverage insurance. That of course is available. I'm talking about just a liability policy with uninsured asshole protection.

Ah, gotcha. I thought full coverage was the route I was going to have to go, didn't know there was a possibility of another option.

Yeah but you have to keep in mind how much money you are paying into insurance to have that coverage.

In our case, it would have helped and hurt. he would have gotten something on a 2 month old car but our rates would have skyrocketed and possibly made us uninsurable.

I was breaking down what his rate would have been for full coverage for 2 years and it would have doubled the amount of his loan. Even after this, i would say it wouldn't have been worth it.

if we had somewhere to store it I would make him wait until he could afford to get it fixed. Checking with the grandparents since they have big driveways and are out of town, but I wouldn't if I were them.

Give him the wife's spot in the garage.

When it happened to me, cops said I could do small claims court, so you're right. Nope.

Unless nothing happens and you pay more money in than the car is worth is 4 years or so. I'm rolling without.

Uninsured motorist is a big enough deal out here that it's now a required coverage.

It's required for insurance companies to include medical coverage for uninsured accidents, but not to fix your car if one of these dummies plows into you. In most states you have to have a full coverage policy for that.

So can you sue said uninsured motorist for damages? How would that even work? Small claims court? What are your odds of receiving compensation taking that route?

You certainly can, but I would guess that the type of people who don't carry insurance for their cars are not likely to have a massive pile of money sitting in the bank.

You can sue them. But when it happened to me, I did a background check on this dumb broad who let her 16 year old son drive without insurance and she was already being sued by every credit card company you can think of, among others, so it was just going to be a big waste of my time over a 2000 dollar car. Think about the type of person who does this.

I figured as much..

That is troubling. I know someone in Ohio that was recently driving on a suspended license and no insurance. She said if she were to get pulled over she'd just get additional fines.

My roommate was also driving on a suspended license with no insurance about a year ago. We're in Florida. He said he'd have been taken to jail if he ever got pulled over. I wonder if that's true..

That just seems so strange. It seems the only people who'd actually have incentive to get insurance are those with a large estate or a newer vehicle that's still being paid off.

Those ****s need to rot in jail. It's a GD joke.

Don't get me wrong - if someone is motivated enough, you could go after them for a lot of money. I don't think it's impossible to get wages garnished and that type of thing. It's just a matter of how much money you're talking about and how much your time is worth to take them to court over it.

You'll go to jail here for driving under suspension.

In my case , it would be a waste of time.

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Just sucks all around....I'm hoping to find trade out.(pipe dream) I really don't like the idea of having a car payment..exactly why I maintained my Jeep.

I can tell you car payments suck and I've never even had one. I buy my cars used- straight cash, homie.

I'm sure the peace of mind you get from a power train warranty is nice but.. Nah. I'm good.

It is true. It's also true that if you cause an accident without insurance you lose your license until you pay for the damages. Statute of limitations comes into play but I don't think it should.

You can. There are tons of avenues available to take the ****ing money from them. In Brock's case, he would've had to wait in line and it wasn't worth it. I would've done it anyway though just to watch the ****ers squirm when the shit head kid, AND the mom both lost their drivers license.

The sad thing about it was the kid had proof of insurance, but the policy was out of force for non payment. Insurance companies should not issue 6 month cards unless you paid for six months but they do.

I'm with you... My son has seen his last gimmie with daddy-provided car fixes. I get that less kids these days are gear heads than back in my day (how can you be with modern cars - no points and plugs!), but no young man, and I mean NO YOUNG MAN (!!!), should need much help figuring out a bad starter and need help changing it. And taking it to the shop to get such things fixed should cost you dearly, it's dumb, and dumb should cost you.

There, I said it!

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Buehler is a bad bad man....

Mine's first car lasted 3. The ONLY thing that didn't suck was that it only cost $500. What really sucks is that it was worth a LOT more, but the neighbor thought the world of him, so it was his for 500 of my $s.

I love that he lived at school, but these things tend to piss me off a bit.

But in the end he's doing a lot more right than some of these irritants, but I still think diagnosing a bad starter and changing it should be in every young man's ability.

If your son is 18 years old and doesn't know basic auto repairs/diagnostics then that's your fault.

You wouldn't know your ABCs if you weren't taught.

Meh, mine has done a lot of car "maintenance" (oil changes, jumping a car )properly), differential fluid changes, bleeding breaks, battery replacement, changing lights (and entire lenses too!!), brake pad changes, plugging of tires, and some others....), but the 'ol hammer-on-starter trick never came up because it's the first failure. He learned, I just want him to learn more.

Oh, and OBD-II systems suck when it comes to not starting issues! LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

This isn't basic repair.

Agreed! I don't even print cards anymore because the geico.com app has it stored right on it. And I, ya know, pay my ****ing insurance every month.

Yes, but it's not rebuilding an engine either.

I ****ed up a few major suspension components on my cars as a teen. I got to fix every one of them because my mother didn't have the money to fix them.

His kid can do it with a little supervision.

Every person is different, not everyone is mechanically minded. If a kid is tearing up a car being dumb then let him walk or get a ride.

I agree. I wasn't very mechanically inclined. It took taking on a lot of jobs above my then skill level to get better at it.

If I may point out, if your kid is wrecking cars and not being responsible, you might want to look for a root cause, such as weed and alcohol.

Or just as likely its young and dumbass driving and just not being responsible.

Supervision by who? It doesn't sound to me like this dude even owns a socket set. Some people just gotta pay, as hard as it is for me to imagine being that way.

Yeah I wouldn't recommend doing major suspension work unless you know what you are doing.

You are putting more than just yourself at risk

My post was a response to GloryDayz. He said every young man should be able to diagnose and repair a bad starter.

Should my younger son (heck, even my older son) even need a lesson, would you consider letting them watch/participate? Realistically I think I've done about all I can do in a typical suburban garage, and one hell of a lot more than any neighbor around me, but there are time I'd love to make him watch/participate in some repairs. I know when his muffler broke just behind the "Y", but before the catalytic converter, the local MIDAS show was pretty cool about letting him see what was happening. And it's not like I have a welder to even consider such work, but if you could do those things, that's be something I'd pay more for, just to teach a kid a skill he might not get otherwise - at least not if it's not a career he's getting into.

"Diagnose" is one thing, teaching a kid to use the hammer you left in the trunk (along with the other tools he might need for a roadside repair!) to bang on a starter is more of an old trick than anything else.

Oh, and it worked perfectly BTW. All it took was reminding him what the starter way, what the solenoid is, and which of the two to hit. :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

My kids don't give a shit about fixing a car. Good thing cars are a lot better than they used to be. I've been out in the driveway at 1 am putting a car back together just to get to work the next day. A joy they'll never know.

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My roommate is the same way. Doesn't know dick about "being a man" and honestly doesn't want to. He says that's why they have automotive technicians/plumbers/electricians/etc.

Personally, I like to know how to fix shit to save money but I'm cheap as shit soooooo.....

That's a bit overboard I think. Cars aren't what I grew up working on, so I'd never really expect the same from an average kid in 2015 as I would have in 1979. That's the whole points and plugs deal... But I'd agree that is you can show them oil changes, and perhaps break pad replacement, that's a lot of what's still normal. Oh, and an ODB-II system... The fact that some of us had them out there to change the differential fluids and bleed breaks is another.

I did in hopes of teaching him something that could help, but is a great way to relieve stress from a long week at the office... I mean a great leather chair is helpful, but after a week of 16-18 hour days, working some grease under your fingernails and teaching them about Lava soap is awesome...

Same here, I've had my Dakota for 6 years and only had it in the shop one time, and that was for the rear brakes. **** those goddamn drum brakes and all their ****ing springs and wheel cylinders rusted to brake lines that you can't get free without ****ing up the lines. I'll gladly pay someone else to deal with that shit.

I'll be up at sunrise torquing a head, replacing intake /exhaust manifiolds, installing my Weber 2b, and then bleeding the brakes.

...if all goes well, my van will be back on the road...I have work waiting.

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