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ceebz 01-04-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10342985)
Let me paint this picture a little more basic clear for you. It's just a simple 2 yes or no questions.

1. Is Alex Smith the defensive coordinator?

2. Is Alex Smith a safety?

If both answers is a no, then there's the culprit of the loss.

I should also add in that he was playing without the best player (Charles) throughout the game, and he made enough plenty of plays to win this game.

The defense. Did. Not.

Argument over.

1. Smith was spotted 28 points in the second half.

2. Smith couldn't answer Luck's rally.

BossChief 01-04-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10342976)
Smith also doesn't lead the offense to TDs in the 4th quarter.

We lost 3 out of our top 5 offensive weapons by that point and Indys defense is the same unit that shut down some ELITE NFL offenses this year. They aren't a shitty unit.

Alex had a great game.

Coach 01-04-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10342976)
Smith also doesn't lead the offense to TDs in the 4th quarter.

Hard to do that when you lost practically half of your starters, and a back-up RB.

Not to mention that Reid went full-reerun on the playcalling on the swings/screens.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10342997)
1. Smith was spotted 28 points in the second half.

2. Smith couldn't answer Luck's rally.

Smith was SPOTTED?

FFS.

Alex SMITH CREATED THAT SPOT.

HAHAHA.

Coach 01-04-2014 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10342997)
1. Smith was spotted 28 points in the second half.

2. Smith couldn't answer Luck's rally.

Try again.

Alex Smith is not a defensive coordinator.

Alex Smith is not a Free Safety. Kendrick Lewis is a free safety.

And spotted? That's absurd.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10342992)
This man gets it, and I agree.

44 points by this offense, without Charles.

If anyone have told me before this game started, that the Chiefs would score 40+ points without Charles, I would be asking where they bought their drugs from.

The Chiefs are 6th in the league in scoring. I don't see why that point total is blowing peoples minds.

Coach 01-04-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10342989)
Berry had an awful game. However, Fleeney's contributions were minimal.

That was the problem. Berry had a awful awful day. His tackling was dog shit.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10343007)
Try again.

Alex Smith is not a defensive coordinator.

Alex Smith is not a Free Safety. Kendrick Lewis is a free safety.

And spotted? That's absurd.

I wish he was a FREE AGENT

Mav 01-04-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343016)
The Chiefs are 6th in the league in scoring. I don't see why that point total is blowing peoples minds.

6th in the league in scoring.

With Jamal Charles for 6 plays????

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343006)
Smith was SPOTTED?

FFS.

Alex SMITH CREATED THAT SPOT.

HAHAHA.

Yes. Smith created that 28 point lead all by himself. Especially the last 7 points which were gifted to him by Trent Richardson.

laughsatyou907 01-04-2014 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343016)
The Chiefs are 6th in the league in scoring. I don't see why that point total is blowing peoples minds.

That isn't blowing peoples minds, your mind numbing rejection of reality is blowing peoples minds.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343027)
Yes. Smith created that 28 point lead all by himself. Especially the last 7 points which were gifted to him by Trent Richardson.

Oh cool. So we scored defensively?

I missed it.

AWESOME FOR THE DEFENSE that other than that first possession in the second half didn't stop the colts ONE TIME.

jd1020 01-04-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by laughsatyou907 (Post 10343031)
That isn't blowing peoples minds, your mind numbing rejection of reality is blowing peoples minds.

The reality is this...

The Chiefs scored 44 points and lost.

That means both teams defenses ****ing sucked and the other teams offense was BETTER.

Chiefnj2 01-04-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10342999)
Hard to do that when you lost practically half of your starters, and a back-up RB.

Not to mention that Reid went full-reerun on the playcalling on the swings/screens.

Sure it's hard to do, that's why you need an elite QB. Just like its hard to lead your team to a victory from a 4 score deficit. Some guys can do it, others get traded to the Chiefs.

tredadda 01-04-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10343007)
Try again.

Alex Smith is not a defensive coordinator.

Alex Smith is not a Free Safety. Kendrick Lewis is a free safety.

And spotted? That's absurd.

^ This. He is so desperate to pin this loss on Smith that he can't grasp the fact that it was a Smith led offense that spotted the defense a 28 point lead.

Coach 01-04-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343027)
Yes. Smith created that 28 point lead all by himself. Especially the last 7 points which were gifted to him by Trent Richardson.

Isn't that what QB's are supposed to do, these days? To create points for their team?

QB's can't "prevent" points. That's on the defense.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343026)
6th in the league in scoring.

With Jamal Charles for 6 plays????

It's ironic how you Smith fans keep pointing to Charles' injury as a death blow to the team. He's a RB. Surely a QB of AS' caliber could overcome losing a RB? Andrew Luck has been playing with his third string RB all season.

laughsatyou907 01-04-2014 10:15 PM

This is a sad, yet needed day. Many super posters are outing themselves as morons. This is a good thing.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10343037)
The reality is this...

The Chiefs scored 44 points and lost.

That means both teams defenses ****ing sucked and the other teams offense was BETTER.

Well, that is the first truthful thing you have said tonight.

Yes, the team that doesn't lose its best play maker, has the better qb, and doesn't lose 3 of its top weapons on offense, and two of its top defenders, won.

You are correct.

tredadda 01-04-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343016)
The Chiefs are 6th in the league in scoring. I don't see why that point total is blowing peoples minds.

Because they did that with Charles. Today they did it without him. Big difference.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10343044)
Isn't that what QB's are supposed to do, these days? To create points for their team?

QB's can't "prevent" points. That's on the defense.

Unfortunately, Alex Smith didn't create many points in the second half.

penguinz 01-04-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343018)
I wish he was a FREE AGENT

He is when this season is officially over. ;)

laughsatyou907 01-04-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343048)
Well, that is the first truthful thing you have said tonight.

Yes, the team that doesn't lose its best play maker, has the better qb, and doesn't lose 3 of its top weapons on offense, and two of its top defenders, won.

You are correct.

This person has eyeballs and a strong mind.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343046)
It's ironic how you Smith fans keep pointing to Charles' injury as a death blow to the team. He's a RB. Surely a QB of AS' caliber could overcome losing a RB? Andrew Luck has been playing with his third string RB all season.

Smith fans? Im a CHIEFS FAN.

And so NOW Jamal Charles who was just 37 percent of the Chiefs offense was just another guy, and ahmad Bradshaw, and Vick Ballard are in the league of CHARLES?

If you troll any harder, your head is going to explode.

tredadda 01-04-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343046)
It's ironic how you Smith fans keep pointing to Charles' injury as a death blow to the team. He's a RB. Surely a QB of AS' caliber could overcome losing a RB? Andrew Luck has been playing with his third string RB all season.

Charles was in the running for league MVP. You are a moron to think that loss did not matter. And FWIW he did overcome the loss of Charles. The 44 points we scored attest to that.

jd1020 01-04-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343048)
Well, that is the first truthful thing you have said tonight.

Yes, the team that doesn't lose its best play maker, has the better qb, and doesn't lose 3 of its top weapons on offense, and two of its top defenders, won.

You are correct.

Nothing I've said has been untruthful.

People simply don't want to hear it.

Coach 01-04-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10343038)
Sure it's hard to do, that's why you need an elite QB. Just like its hard to lead your team to a victory from a 4 score deficit. Some guys can do it, others get traded to the Chiefs.

Let's put it in this way.

We all can agree that Charles is the best player on this team. Since Charles was only available for six plays, and was done for the day.

Alex Smith rose to the occasion. He played like a ****ing Franchise QB should play. This loss is not pinned on Alex.

I'm done arguing this stuff. It's sad, that people wants to blame this on Alex, whereas, he was nowhere responsible (other than the fumble, which I concede to) giving up all those points on the defensive side, other than 7, due to his fumble.

From the way things are going here, it just sounds like to me that everyone want Matt Cassel back. Not me. I'll take Alex Smith over Matt Cassel any day, any time, any place.

I'm out with this irrational logic being placed here.

BossChief 01-04-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10342984)
Or a tight end. Fleener killed Berry tonight

If we are able to add a Jace Amaro or Eric Ebron to this offense, it's gonna be REALLY hard to stop.

The only thing that would keep me from going up and getting one of those guys is if both are still on the board in the mid teens along with a really good coverage safety like Haha Dix.

Dix
Amaro
Ebron
Lee

I would be thrilled if one of those guys s our pick. Any of them would be a game changer.

tredadda 01-04-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343052)
Unfortunately, Alex Smith didn't create many points in the second half.

44 points and we lost. This while losing three of our top offensive players. Only morons like you put this on the QB.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10343069)
Charles was in the running for league MVP. You are a moron to think that loss did not matter. And FWIW he did overcome the loss of Charles. The 44 points we scored attest to that.

Which really was more impressive, the shovel pass to Sherman, or the deek and beauty to Knile?

laughsatyou907 01-04-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10343037)
The reality is this...

The Chiefs scored 44 points and lost.

That means both teams defenses ****ing sucked and the other teams offense was BETTER.

That means that one defense tightened up while the other played soft like they have done the entire season when they get a huge 1st half lead. Before the Houston-Hali injury it was the opposite. We ran clock and wore down the opposing defense.

jd1020 01-04-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by laughsatyou907 (Post 10343089)
That means that one defense tightened up while the other played soft like they have done the entire season when they get a huge 1st half lead. Before the Houston-Hali injury it was the opposite. We ran clock and wore down the opposing defense.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

Keep trying to put it on one side of the ball.

Lose a 28 point lead...

Thats a team failure.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10343071)
Nothing I've said has been untruthful.

People simply don't want to hear it.

Lets just leave it as it is. Your opinion is biased because you have and always have had, and will always have an extreme dislike of Alex Smith.

So, I take your takes with a grain of salt. I respect you not for your takes, but because you chose a side, and you stuck with it.

It does not mean you aren't delusional, or wrong. Its just your opinion. And im fine with that.

I used to get destroyed for mine, back when I first got here, and I tried explaining to people why I liked Alex Smith.

I get it.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10343080)
If we are able to add a Jace Amaro or Eric Ebron to this offense, it's gonna be REALLY hard to stop.

The only thing that would keep me from going up and getting one of those guys is if both are still on the board in the mid teens along with a really good coverage safety like Haha Dix.

Dix
Amaro
Ebron
Lee

I would be thrilled if one of those guys s our pick. Any of them would be a game changer.

Any one of those would be outstanding.

Im partial to Ebron. His athleticism is ridiculous.

jd1020 01-04-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343098)
Lets just leave it as it is. Your opinion is biased because you have and always have had, and will always have an extreme dislike of Alex Smith.

So, I take your takes with a grain of salt. I respect you not for your takes, but because you chose a side, and you stuck with it.

It does not mean you aren't delusional, or wrong. Its just your opinion. And im fine with that.

I used to get destroyed for mine, back when I first got here, and I tried explaining to people why I liked Alex Smith.

I get it.

Nothing biased about my opinion.

I have yet to single out Alex for this loss.

You lose a 28 point lead in the 2nd half...

2 reasons for that.

1) The offense failed to keep scoring
2) The defense couldn't stop the other teams offense

Team choke job.

Chiefnj2 01-04-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10343074)
Let's put it in this way.

We all can agree that Charles is the best player on this team. Since Charles was only available for six plays, and was done for the day.

Alex Smith rose to the occasion. He played like a ****ing Franchise QB should play. This loss is not pinned on Alex.

I'm done arguing this stuff. It's sad, that people wants to blame this on Alex, whereas, he was nowhere responsible (other than the fumble, which I concede to) giving up all those points on the defensive side, other than 7, due to his fumble.

From the way things are going here, it just sounds like to me that everyone want Matt Cassel back. Not me. I'll take Alex Smith over Matt Cassel any day, any time, any place.

I'm out with this irrational logic being placed here.

He played like a franchise qb the first 34 minutes. The last 26 weren't anything special.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-04-2014 10:24 PM

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Thanks Reid

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10343083)
44 points and we lost. This while losing three of our top offensive players. Only morons like you put this on the QB.

No, no. This was a team loss. There was bad play all around. My point is, that in the clutch, AS failed hard. In today's NFL, the QB is expected to pull out wins, regardless of how many bad bounces he gets. AS was in position to win this game in the second half, and he pissed it away.

tk13 01-04-2014 10:25 PM

There's some serious trolling going on in here. Some of you are truly miserable people.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10343074)
Let's put it in this way.

We all can agree that Charles is the best player on this team. Since Charles was only available for six plays, and was done for the day.

Alex Smith rose to the occasion. He played like a ****ing Franchise QB should play. This loss is not pinned on Alex.

I'm done arguing this stuff. It's sad, that people wants to blame this on Alex, whereas, he was nowhere responsible (other than the fumble, which I concede to) giving up all those points on the defensive side, other than 7, due to his fumble.

From the way things are going here, it just sounds like to me that everyone want Matt Cassel back. Not me. I'll take Alex Smith over Matt Cassel any day, any time, any place.

I'm out with this irrational logic being placed here.

Irrational logic? You're the one bringing up Matt Cassel.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10343117)
There's some serious trolling going on in here. Some of you are truly miserable people.

Yep. My entire dislike of Alex D. Smith was based around the fact I thought he would be useless in the postseason.

Shit, he was the only reason we had a chance today.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10343112)
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Thanks Reid

Yeah, I've come to realize that Reid's play-calling and time management will always be an obstacle to overcome.
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Mav 01-04-2014 10:28 PM

Here is the post that should end this stupid debate.

Raise your hand if when Jamal Charles laid on that turf, and Andy Reid walked out, if you said, pfff, no big deal. We got this.


There are no hands raised, and if it is, you are full of shit. I am the biggest PRO ALEX SMITH GUY on the planet. For those who don't know, when I started here, my user name was ALEX SMITH FAN. And im NOT a troll account.

I said, the Chiefs are ****ed.

They scored 44 points without Jamal Charles.

The qb threw 4 tds, no picks, and 380 yards and accounted for about 440 yards of offense.

That's FRANCHISE qb numbers.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10343126)
Yep. My entire dislike of Alex D. Smith was based around the fact I thought he would be useless in the postseason.

Shit, he was the only reason we had a chance today.

I defended you on that point earlier.

HemiEd 01-04-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10343038)
Sure it's hard to do, that's why you need an elite QB. Just like its hard to lead your team to a victory from a 4 score deficit. Some guys can do it, others get traded to the Chiefs.

bingo, pretty much sums it up.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-04-2014 10:29 PM

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...ith-highlights


Alex Smith

Hammock Parties 01-04-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343135)
I defended you on that point earlier.

Embrace me as a brother.

Jimmya 01-04-2014 10:30 PM

Bingo...that is why Smith isn't starting in San Francisco

BossChief 01-04-2014 10:31 PM

If we get Kelce back healthy and add a tight end like Amaro or Ebron or a receiver like Lee, this offense is gonna explode next year.

Alex will have 4000+ yards and 30+ touchdowns.

Not saving a good tight end held us back most of the year.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343133)
Here is the post that should end this stupid debate.

Raise your hand if when Jamal Charles laid on that turf, and Andy Reid walked out, if you said, pfff, no big deal. We got this.


There are no hands raised, and if it is, you are full of shit. I am the biggest PRO ALEX SMITH GUY on the planet. For those who don't know, when I started here, my user name was ALEX SMITH FAN. And im NOT a troll account.

I said, the Chiefs are ****ed.

They scored 44 points without Jamal Charles.

The qb threw 4 tds, no picks, and 380 yards and accounted for about 440 yards of offense.

That's FRANCHISE qb numbers.

Honestly, no bullshit here, I thought the Chiefs still weren't out of it. I think Davis is quite talented and I didn't (still don't) think the Colts' defense is very good.

Did I think it would limit the playbook? Yes. Did I think it would kill any dynamism the Chiefs' offense had? Yes. I still thought they could win though.

Now, you answer me this: with a 28 point lead and basically the entire second half yet to play; isn't it still the offenses responsibility to be efficient and put points on the board? (The Chiefs scored a total of 6 points after the Davis TD reception BTW)

Mav 01-04-2014 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10343152)
If we get Kelce back healthy and add a tight end like Amaro or Ebron or a receiver like Lee, this offense is gonna explode next year.

Alex will have 4000+ yards and 30+ touchdowns.

Not saving a good tight end held us back most of the year.

I think people underestimate that point. Fasano, and McGrath are okay. But they offer almost no game changing ability.

Remember that 3rd and Short where they ran that middle screen to Fasano? That was the slowest four yards in the history of football. It was timed with a sun dial.

MeatRock 01-04-2014 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343157)
Honestly, no bullshit here, I thought the Chiefs still weren't out of it. I think Davis is quite talented and I didn't (still don't) think the Colts' defense is very good.

Did I think it would limit the playbook? Yes. Did I think it would kill any dynamism the Chiefs' offense had? Yes. I still thought they could win though.

Now, you answer me this: with a 28 point lead and basically the entire second half yet to play; isn't it still the offenses responsibility to be efficient and put points on the board? (The Chiefs scored a total of 6 points after the Davis TD reception BTW)

When did we lose Davis?

laughsatyou907 01-04-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10343096)
ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

Keep trying to put it on one side of the ball.

Lose a 28 point lead...

Thats a team failure.

Do you even read what you say?

Jimmya 01-04-2014 10:35 PM

I agree ceebz. ...it is the o's responsibility to at least milk the clock and put a few points on the board.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 10343162)
When did we lose Davis?

Sometime late in the 4th quarter. Happened on the Chiefs' 2nd to last drive.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10343157)
Honestly, no bullshit here, I thought the Chiefs still weren't out of it. I think Davis is quite talented and I didn't (still don't) think the Colts' defense is very good.

Did I think it would limit the playbook? Yes. Did I think it would kill any dynamism the Chiefs' offense had? Yes. I still thought they could win though.

Now, you answer me this: with a 28 point lead and basically the entire second half yet to play; isn't it still the offenses responsibility to be efficient and put points on the board? (The Chiefs scored a total of 6 points after the Davis TD reception BTW)

I am not arguing that the offense underperformed in the second half.

There were several factors, some that INCLUDE Alex Smith, but to single any one out, is not fair.

Not having Charles to run the clock, hurt. Bowes drop on 3rd and medium where Alex threw a really good pass.

Alexs miss to Cyrus Gray, Alexs IG, Alexs fumble, the energy with which the Colts played defense, and offense, and the fact that after that early int in the second half, the Chiefs defense didn't stop the colts once.

Not only that, but the Chiefs losing Flowers, and Houston, didn't help at all.

MeatRock 01-04-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10343172)
I agree ceebz. ...it is the o's responsibility to at least milk the clock and put a few points on the board.

ROFL Milk the clock with who running the ball? McMidget? Grey?

tonyetony 01-04-2014 10:37 PM

I am sick. Sutton = Tits on a boar hog.

houstonwhodat 01-04-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10343126)
Yep. My entire dislike of Alex D. Smith was based around the fact I thought he would be useless in the postseason.

Shit, he was the only reason we had a chance today.


Alex Smith is a good quarterback.

Key word is GOOD.

He is not an elite player which is what you need in these days.

The future looks good for you guys but in the AFC you still have to overcome the likes of Brady, Manning, Luck.

Winning ain't easy.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 10343162)
When did we lose Davis?

Um, early 4th. Went down with a knee.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10343187)
Alex Smith is a good quarterback.

Key word is GOOD.

He is not an elite player which is what you need in these days.

The future looks good for you guys but in the AFC you still have to overcome the likes of Brady, Manning, Luck.

Winning ain't easy.

Give Alex Smith multiple weapons like Colston, Jimmy Graham, Kenny Stills, Lance Moore, Darren Sproles, Pierre Thomas then ****ing talk to me.

he has NEVER HAD A CAST LIKE THAT. NEVER.

MeatRock 01-04-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343188)
Um, early 4th. Went down with a knee.

I thought it was early in the 4th. I think the beginning of the 4th quarter. I could be wrong though.

ChiefsCountry 01-04-2014 10:39 PM

Not getting a touchdown on two series, the big one being in the 3rd after Luck's 3rd pick. That should have been the dagger in the Colts, holding the Chiefs to a field goal was a victory and changed the game around.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-04-2014 10:39 PM

jd goes full reerun once again

laughsatyou907 01-04-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343175)
I am not arguing that the offense underperformed in the second half.

There were several factors, some that INCLUDE Alex Smith, but to single any one out, is not fair.

Not having Charles to run the clock, hurt. Bowes drop on 3rd and medium where Alex threw a really good pass.

Alexs miss to Cyrus Gray, Alexs IG, Alexs fumble, the energy with which the Colts played defense, and offense, and the fact that after that early int in the second half, the Chiefs defense didn't stop the colts once.

Not only that, but the Chiefs losing Flowers, and Houston, didn't help at all.

That was a beautiful pass that grey turned fully around on 15 yards too early and back peddled, but you can't really fault the QB or the scrubs on that one, chalk that up to inexperience.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10343172)
I agree ceebz. ...it is the o's responsibility to at least milk the clock and put a few points on the board.

At the very least, extend some drives and continually put the Colts in poor field position. But what happens? The Colts answer with a TD, and then AS makes a terrible play which ends up in a sack/strip which leads to anothe Indy TD, cutting the lead to 14. The game was over after that, IMHO. For all of their talk about toughness and family, I honestly think this Chiefs team is quite weak, mentally.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-04-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10343194)
Not getting a touchdown on two series, the big one being in the 3rd after Luck's 3rd pick. That should have been the dagger in the Colts, holding the Chiefs to a field goal was a victory and changed the game around.

Allowing TDS on FIVE consecutive drives changed the game
..absolutely pathetic

SilentHell 01-04-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10343187)
Alex Smith is a good quarterback.

Key word is GOOD.

He is not an elite player which is what you need in these days.

The future looks good for you guys but in the AFC you still have to overcome the likes of Brady, Manning, Luck.

Winning ain't easy.

Literally, Luck, as in the luck of causing a fumble, having it bounce off a clueless lineman's head, and right into the hands of an offensive playmaker who can dive over the pile to score a TD. And to say Alex Smith is not elite is kind of a biased statement. Stats aren't really key in his "eliteness". It is more of his accuracy and care of the football and handling situations. I wouldnt say he is top 5 right now, but I would definitely say top 10

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343188)
Um, early 4th. Went down with a knee.

Pretty sure the Chiefs only had one drive, (the last one) without Davis.

Jimmya 01-04-2014 10:42 PM

Top 10...you may be the ONLY fan in America to believe that.

ChiefsCountry 01-04-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10343200)
Allowing TDS on FIVE consecutive drives changed the game
..absolutely pathetic

That actually didn't happen.

laughsatyou907 01-04-2014 10:42 PM

How many games this season did an offense score 44 pts? Now subtract the scrub teams being blown out by playoff teams. Yes, many of the debbie downers here contribute nothing but negativity.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentHell (Post 10343202)
Literally, Luck, as in the luck of causing a fumble, having it bounce off a clueless lineman's head, and right into the hands of an offensive playmaker who can dive over the pile to score a TD. And to say Alex Smith is not elite is kind of a biased statement. Stats aren't really key in his "eliteness". It is more of his accuracy and care of the football and handling situations. I wouldnt say he is top 5 right now, but I would definitely say top 10

He definitely elevated himself above "middle of the pack"

houstonwhodat 01-04-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343191)
Give Alex Smith multiple weapons like Colston, Jimmy Graham, Kenny Stills, Lance Moore, Darren Sproles, Pierre Thomas then ****ing talk to me.

he has NEVER HAD A CAST LIKE THAT. NEVER.



Oh I hear ya.

The Saints pulled this one out but I wasn't so sure after the first half.

Brees was playing like dog shit and he knew it.

Next week is Seattle and it will not be easy.

But if we pull if off next week then I think we go home for the NFCCG.

If that happens we are going all the way.

Jimmya 01-04-2014 10:43 PM

Middle of the pack..yes. ..elite...no

SilentHell 01-04-2014 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10343209)
Top 10...you may be the ONLY fan in America to believe that.

Why, because of stats? He is playing on a team with a brand new head coach and staff. Look at his W/L record in the past couple seasons. There is a lot to consider. It is not what have you done for me now, but what have you done over the course. A. Smith is severely underrated and I am not the ONLY person to think that. A huge base of people in this country were jealous that we picked him up.

ceebz 01-04-2014 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by laughsatyou907 (Post 10343196)
That was a beautiful pass that grey turned fully around on 15 yards too early and back peddled, but you can't really fault the QB or the scrubs on that one, chalk that up to inexperience.

LOL, now Gray "back-pedaled" on that play? You guys are ****ing ridiculous.

Mav 01-04-2014 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10343216)
Oh I hear ya.

The Saints pulled this one but I wasn't so sure after the first half.

Brees was playing like dog shit and he knew it.

Congrats by the way.

All I am saying is, in all honesty, take my homerism with a grain of salt, but Alex Smith really has never been surrounded by a complete cast like Peyton, Brees, Rodgers.

Not that I think he is elite, but damn, how good could he be with a complete cast around him?

Ya know?

Hammock Parties 01-04-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343214)
He definitely elevated himself above "middle of the pack"

That was elite QB play today. In a very tough situation.

Moar.

laughsatyou907 01-04-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentHell (Post 10343202)
Literally, Luck, as in the luck of causing a fumble, having it bounce off a clueless lineman's head, and right into the hands of an offensive playmaker who can dive over the pile to score a TD. And to say Alex Smith is not elite is kind of a biased statement. Stats aren't really key in his "eliteness". It is more of his accuracy and care of the football and handling situations. I wouldnt say he is top 5 right now, but I would definitely say top 10

It's disgusting how easily minds are controlled by simple media, these dorks are incapable of formulating their own opinions and just regurgitate the most 'gangsta' reerun opinions no matter how baseless they are.


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