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That really rubs you the wrong way, huh homer? |
Time will tell on Fisher, but he was a consensus top 3 overall best player available in this draft.
He's had to switch positions to start and is injured as well. It is far, far too early to begin writing him off as a bust. |
People writing him off as a bust after two preseason games are going to look pretty dumb in my opinion.
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Dave LOVED the Fisher pick.
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Fisher is a rookie who's in his 2nd preseason game.
What I'm seeing from this is every indication of why they drafted Fisher in the first place. Albert is getting his ass kicked on most of those plays, and he's a 5th year vet. That's what's really embarrassing. |
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Lane Johnson is doing pretty well.
http://i.imgur.com/mVJLHyw.jpg Our guy, not so much. http://i.imgur.com/b1YvVh0.jpg |
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My god, man. It's like standing in the middle of Hurricane Katrina and saying "See?! I told you this house had drainage issues!" |
I'm pretty shocked that our stud RT got his ass handed to him by an average OLB, yes.
I can examine that independent of the rest of the line. |
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So far after watching Albert get his ass kicked, I'm starting to see why we didn't want to throw big money at him and why nobody else wanted him either.
He's a decent LT who played in a run heavy/quick pass offense last year which made him look "elite" statistically. |
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He got beat one on one. |
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The player we just spent the #1 overall pick on getting his shit pushed in is getting singled out?
Shocker! |
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I've yet to see official boards from all 32 teams that state Eric Fisher is top 3 on the board and until so, I'll remind you that it's speculation. It's quite possible that Jacksonville had Joeckel, Johnson, and Jordan as their top 3 but it's impossible to know at this juncture. |
As bad as fisher was in each gif, Albert was just as bad. Very worrisome
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Albert will get his shit together. He's probably a little out of shape from the off season. He was beat around the edge several times in that game.
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Trying to redirect the attention to Albert doesn't "defeat the purpose of this thread." Albert struggling has nothing to do with Fisher playing like shit. Nice try. |
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Unlikely. |
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This fanbase is so used to it's first round pick being bad that most are in complete denial about the early returns of Eric Fisher.
So many are begging for their hope in John Dorsey to provide us with a good team again and just don't want to even think about the chance that he may well be another Pioli. Myself included, believe me. The truth is that we need to accept that may well be the case. It's not a foregone conclusion, far from it...but THUS FAR this smells exactly like 2009. |
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Take a breath for a bit, let them play a game before you proclaim something like that. You may not agree with everything they've done, but this is ridiculous |
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He's also a subject of intense scrutiny this year as he is the #1 pick. That is why this is a hot topic. There's no agenda at play here. I hope he beasts next week. In fact, I praised him for looking pretty good in the first game, so please, step down from your soap box. And take out a bar and scrub up, because you stink. |
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Crazy= 2nd preseason game and calling the rookie tackle a bust. This line will be good, they'll gel and play as a unit they've got the coaching and talent to do it just takes more than a couple of practices in pads and a ps game. Whenever there's a new system / personel the Oline is the last to come around. We've seen this many many times, even with best line's we've fielded.
It will click for Fisher, not this week or next but it will happen and he will be very good for a long time. I'm confident they didn't miss on this kid. |
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It's pretty shocking how bad he was though. Looked like Barry Richardson with a mask on. |
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A first overall pick linemen that sucks (again, SO FAR) in all facets of his game and will have a target on his back all year The tight end we drafted at the top of the third round has 3 drops so far and 2 would have been touchdowns. AGAIN, there is plenty of time to change all of that, but all I'm talking about is RIGHT NOW and exactly what we have seen. no rainbows no unicorns |
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He'll get his feet and the playbook down he's an animal, just a little green. He was overwhelmed agains the 9ners, and it won't be the last time but I'd be willing to bet after the 8th game he won't get outright owned by anyone. |
I can't wait till everyone is full blown homer mode in a few weeks when we beat up on Jacksonville...then, we play Dallas close and maybe win...then reality kicks in. Philly is gonna be tougher than they currently seem and The Giants are gonna blow us out. That will be ignored, though and homerism will get a shot in the arm playing Tennesee and Oakland before we get brought back to earth playing Houston. Cleveland will beat us and we may Buffalo owns us. That bye week is gonna be looooong.
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The learning curve is supposed to be minimal. Branden Albert came out in his first pro game and stoned Richard Seymour. Do we just shrug our shoulders Saturday night when Lamarr Woodley is eating his lunch? When does it become acceptable for us to criticize a 1.1? |
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Will be moved to guard within a few years. For ****s sake we suck drafting in the first round. Who was our last good first round draft pick that outperformed his draft position, Hali? Berry was 5th overall so can't say him. |
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It's only preseason, right? Well, Dante Robinson and Jalil Brown aren't going anywhere...Alex Smith is still Alex Smith (no cape) and he will need to put up points to offset the play of Robinson and Brown. Passes to Fasano and Charles are only gonna get us so far. I hope they are up to the task. I really do. |
Harbaugh did the homers a favor in not playing Kaepernick the whole first half.
Dude threw 2 passes and one should have been a touchdown. On Dante Robinson. |
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What did Bruce Mathews do his frist pro game? How about his rookie season? What about his 2nd season? WARNING - THE ANSWERS DO NOT FIT YOUR NARRIATIVE... |
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As a fan it's entirely acceptable to critique any player at anytime. There's a lot of intangibles that you seem to overlook when looking at nothing but stats. We have no idea of what we have yet, none. You didn't see anything in his performance to date the will provide you any insite into what kind of player he will prove to be. The Oline will take a little time always does, it's just they way it is. |
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You ranted and raved about how you wanted this attacking defense and this and that, then they go do it, but they don't draft a qb first overall who's ceiling at this point is the qb we currently have on the roster as our starter and you are all up in arms. |
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We're looking at footage of Eric Fisher getting DESTROYED. |
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All I heard all offseason was "you don't take projects in the top ten, you take players that can help you win games right away" The excuses are already rolling in because that's what we are used to. It's just sad that we took a project right tackle with the first overall pick in the whole draft. |
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As opposed to who? Milliner? Because you don't take a corner either. And you definitely don't take a third round quarterback.
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That's not in reference to Fisher. I watched the same game you did and won't argue that he wasn't destroyed. You've seen nothing from Fisher yet that give you the slightest inclination as to what type of player he will be. none. |
If we were dead set on upgrading the line, then trade back (taking a second if that all that's offered) and take whoever if left out of Fisher, Johnson, Joeckel, Cooper, Aarmack.
Impact players? Ansah, Austin, Mingo, Patterson, Richardson, Jordan, etc. Staying out at 1 and taking a project right tackle was just flat out stupid. I don't want to hear the bullshit excuses. It was a waste of resources. |
Sitting here trying to think of who was available in this draft that anybody would trade into the first spot for.
It's also funny that Jacksonville did the exact same thing as the Chiefs. You are overreacting big time. |
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He better straighten up and start shitting me tiffany cufflinks soon, though, or he's going to be a GIF'D UP legend. |
Where are you getting that he's a project right tackle?
He was the best left tackle prospect in the draft, the mistake if you want to argue that there was one, was not moving Albert if your gonna take fisher. Now, the guy is hurt and learning a new position. And if you want to scream trade back, that's fine, but if you want to argue that some of those guys are such impact players, why was there no one knocking down the door to trade up for one? |
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How about our third corner? In case you haven't noticed, every single team in the NFL runs 3 and 4 wide sets all game long. A third corner is a borderline starter and if Flowers or Smith go down, we are in huge trouble on the back end. No big deal though, right? It's only preseason. |
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Tell me then, who is the giants third corner? The Seahawks have the best secondary in the league, who's their 3 cb? If you're banking on winning or losing in your 3rd corner, we've got bigger problems than that. |
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Fisher is going to be this teams LT for years to come. You're fooling yourself if you think Albert is the long term LT. |
Let's go through the list here.
Ansah=biggest question mark in the draft. Easily a huge project player. Mingo/Jordan=no room for them to get on the field with Tamba and Houston. Milliner=No room for him. They are high on Sean Smith and he's looked solid so far. Cooper/Warmack=this is funny because these are the players that people said they'd freak out about the most had we picked them. Only possible player worth picking was Tavon Austin. Would have loved him, but I understand the Fisher pick. We have to defend Von Miller to compete and the OL was an abortion after last year. Just flat out terrible. |
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Don't you people have ANY STANDARDS? Expectations? Shouldn't the first pick in the draft be able to handle one on one matchups with backup quality players without problem? TE guy has been getting walked like a dog by almost everyone he has faced. Including Austen Lane, who is a terrible player. Quote:
First overall picks at low importance positions should flash the ability to DOMINATE backup quality players. Some of you think it's ok, though because he is supposed to be a left tackle...even though we already have a good left tackle. If Austen Lane and other backup quality players beat Fisher in 1on1s how is he supposed to be able to handle guys like Woodley, Ware, Aldon Smith, etc? As far as the "we couldnt trade down" argument, why was Oakland able to move down? Vaccaro Richardson Star Reid Floyd Werner Jones Patterson Trufant Elam While also adding a valuable second round pick... Oh well, let's just hope they do the right thing and at least keep Albert (if he earns it) so that the pick at least solidified our tackle spots long term and we don't have to spend more pucks next year to cover for bad decisions this year. |
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I haven't followed Richardson. Wonder how he's looking so far? |
So we have a good left tackle that has to prove he deserves a contract? Isn't that counterintuitive?
Had we traded down and taken a dl, people would bitch. Same with a olb. The guy is hurt and has played 2 preseason games. He's underperformed up to this point sure, but I don't think you can necessarily expect him to be a top of the line player at his position by week 2 of the preseason. If he's an average to above average player this year and ascending, that's what you look for |
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