Do you remember the Wr we ran out there last year opposite Bowe?

The additions of Breaston, Baldwin, McClain, a healthy McClusster are more than he had last year. He will be missing Moeaki which hurts but there is still enough offensive weapons to make this offense go.

Breaston and Baldwin. Like I said in another thread, I dont care if Baldwin hasn't practiced or played really, with his size, hands and leaping ability, he will be a threat in the red zone and someone you can just throw it up to down the field. Breaston is WAY better than any WR we had last year opposite Bowe or in the slot.

Also, a healthy and more experienced McCluster...we saw his playmaking ability in the pre season.

Losing Moeaki sucks ass, but its not the end of the world. We'll see more 3 WR sets for sure and once Baldwin gets more time, he'll eventually start. Bowe-Baldwin-Breaston could be our best WR core ever.

Hey Bills fans, if you can't beat KC this Sunday you might as well give up all hope and go 0-16 and make a run at Andrew Luck. Well, your team might get the first pick and still screw it up, but you should still be able to beat KC.

KC's first team offense and defense have been horrible all preseason. KC's first team offense managed a measly 2 field goals - both on turnovers around the 11 yard line of the opposition, against 1st team defenses. Now with Baldwin missing all of preseason, Cassel nursing hurt ribs, Lilja with some mystery injury and Moeaki out for the season, they are hurting even worse. If Palko has to play, he should be good for at least one pick six on his impressive fade away pass.

KC's first team defense has not been able to stop opposing teams first string offenses. The Rams pounded the ball down KC's throats, as did GB. If you have to convert 3rd and long, don't worry about, it hasn't stopped anyone else from getting first downs on 3rd and 15.

The coaching staff is also lost. They couldn't even get the first play of the game in on time without burning a timeout.

This game is Buffalo's for the taking. If you can't beat KC you'll be the bitch cows of the 2011 NFL Season.

I just hope when Baldwin gets healthy they let him play and not try and discipline him or whatever for this crap. I know you don't want divas running the franchise, but this "right 53" boyscout stuff is good and all, but we need the playmakers and talent on the field.

Yeah, the Chiefs by FIVE touchdowns. Right. If this idiot feels so strongly about it, he should bet the farm on KC, who was giving 6.5 points last time I checked...the Cassel uncertainty could cause that number to go down a bit.

**** you, you piece of shit.

Get the **** off this forum and never come back.

Name one thing that I said that wasn't true. Go Suck MCLUSTER'S COCK.

I know i'm a noob and all but it amazes me that people on this board claim to be chiefs fans and whine and pout like this. It wasn't a great preseason but jfc

Baldwin didn't miss all preseason LMAO

It's pretty ridiculous.

Oh, he played one preseason game. Big difference in this shortened preseason.

How are you viewing this as "whining and pouting?"

Almost everything he posted is undisputed fact.

Im not sure the "right 53" really means all boyscouts. If anything I think they look to establish leadership and then bring in some risks knowing that the leadership will keep them in line. If Pioli only wanted angels, he wouldn't have even drafted Baldwin or Houston.

It wasn't just his last post, it's been his demeanor the past week or so. It's always doom and gloom around here. Yeah his post was spot on we have not had a good preseason at all and all things stated are true. I guess we will prob. get piss pounded by Buffalo.

You guys were saying the same shit before the SD game last season.

"We suck, We're gonna suck"

Seriously, It is ****ing STUPID to base your outlook of this season on this game AFTER it is played, much less before it. Let's hope we've got it together enough to win this one. But the Bills shouldn't feel like abandoning the season if they lose, and neither should we.

I wouldn't count on it.

How much of a difference do you guys think it will make if Cassel plays or not? When the Chiefs played the Bills two years ago, Cassel threw 4 INTs in a six-point loss. Last year, he was pretty ineffectual, throwing for something like 150 yards with a fairly poor completion percentage. He has yet to throw a TD against the Bills over two games as a Chief. What's up with the Bills and Chiefs suddenly playing each other every year now? This is the third year in a row.

On the other hand, Tyler Palko never really started an NFL game. One thing here that didn't occur to some people is that Dave Wannstedt, who now coaches for the Bills, coached Palko at Pitt, and so should know him like the back of his hand...his tendencies, strengths, and weaknesses and whatnot.

We will be much better off if Cassel plays. Regardless of past performances.

Forget talking about what Cassel does or doesn't do. Find some tape of Palko and you will see why its such a big deal. I don't think this is really an issue at this point. If Cassel was in danger of not starting, they wouldn't practice him until last minute. To me, if they put him on the field yesterday, then they are comfortable with him starting this Sunday.

In a nutshell - If Palko starts, we lose. Not saying Cassel is a worldbeater, especially against the Bills, but Palko is that much less of a QB than Cassel is.

Yup.

Thanks for your responses. Wannstedt's familiarity with Palko could be the nail in the coffin if he starts, too. Sounds like people are fairly confident in Cassel's starting then? Wonder if he'll be hampered by that rib. I don't expect Haley to come out and level with anybody about the situation. We'll have to wait and see.

I still think that the key will be Buffalo's ability, or lack thereof, to stop the Chief's running attack, regardless of whether Cassel plays or not. Sounds like the Chiefs would be pretty predictable if Cassel was out, almost to the point of being one dimensional.

Cassel will play. Period.

He had one of his best games after appendectomy surgery last year so maybe a little pain helps his focus. :hmmm:

You're moving the goalposts.

He stated facts about the 2011 Preseason.

The starting offense WAS terrible. The starting defense DID get run all over.

They've been awful on 3rd down on both sides of the ball. They've looked reeruned regarding clock management.

Those are all facts, and I fail to see where NJ based the outlook of the entire season on those stats. At worst, he's basing the outcome of THIS GAME on the shitty PS.

And that's his right. Get over it.

I believe that the Bills will win this game. I am a homer, but I think I'm a reasonable homer. :homer:

Bills Positional Breakdown:

Quarterback - Fitzpatrick well exceeded expectations last year. He threw for 3000 yards, and 23 TDs in 13 games. He should have started at the beginning of the 2010-2011 season, but for some reason the front office was hung up on Trent Edwards. He's looked pretty sharp this preseason and I expect that he'll have a good season. In the third preseason game against Jacksonville, he went 11/12 for 165 yards and 2 TDs. Pretty sharp eh? His biggest downfall last year, was coming up big in the clutch. He seemed to have thrown several late interceptions killing drives for a last minute win or tie. With an improved defense this year, maybe he won't have to be chucking it down the field quite as much to play catch up late in the game. If Fitz gets hurt, we're screwed. Thigpen has looked terrible, and Brad Smith is a gadget QB, not a pocket passer.

Running Backs - You all seem to know Spiller, but he is not our starting RB...at least not yet. Spiller's biggest issue's last year were blitz pickup (read: nearly getting Fitzpatrick killed), and being patient enough to let holes open up. His problem is his speed. He's so fast, he wants to run through the hole before his blockers have time to set up. Jackson is awesome. He isn't the strongest or fastest back, but he seems to have this elusive quality. It looks like the Bills are trying to get Spiller more playing time this season. Hopefully something clicks for him, because he definitely has all of the physical tools.

Wide Receivers - Stevie Johnson had a fantastic season last year, but I'm concerned about his production this year. Last year he had Evans to draw the safety away from Johnson's side of the field. This year, Donald Jones appears to be starting across from Stevie. You guys probably recently see him get his bell rung by Raheem Moore against the Broncos. He's a total question mark at this point. He played really well in the limited playing time that was given to him last year, but will that translate to success as a starter? I guess we'll see. Roscoe Parrish will probably be in the slot. He's super dangerous, and can run a fly route pretty well (has caught several deep balls this way during his tenure as a Bill). Where he's most dangerous though, is underneath stuff. He'll get a swing/screen/bubble pass, and can go the distance every time. He was injured for half the season last year, and his presence was definitely missed.

Tight Ends - We have a guy named Scott Chandler. He has actually played well during the preseason, but we'll see how he does when the games count. The Bills haven't had a competent tight end in a long while.

Offensive Line - I am actually optimistic about the line. They are benefited by the fact that Fitzpatrick is really good at eluding the rush. Levitre, Wood and Bell are all starters in this league. While Bell has looked iffy at times, I think he's an average starting LT. I'm worried about the right side out our line. It will consist of Kraig Urbik and Erik Pears. I didn't really notice Pears during the preseason, but it seemed like Urbik was abused consistently. While most think our line is terrible, I think it is just average.

Defensive Line - This is where the Bills will be much improved due to the addition of Dareus. He has looked beastly thus far in the preseason, but I'm concerned that he could be injury prone. He was already in crutches earlier in the preseason. Barring injury though, I think he could definitely win DROY. Obviously it's a toss up at this point, as the season hasn't even started yet, but it's definitely not that far fetched. Williams is great at getting penetration for a NT, but he isn't your typical 3-4 eat up blockers NT. Dwan Edwards is pretty unremarkable. He won't make any big plays, but he probably won't hurt us much either. Torell was a high 2nd round draft pick, and will probably see increased line in the rotation this season. It has yet to be seen whether or not he'll make any impact.

Linebackers - We lost Paul Poz, and we gained Nick Barnett. I'm going to call this one a wash. It seems so far, like Barnett is much more aggressive that Poz, so he'll probably make more plays while getting burned more often. Kelsay is muff cabbage, and shouldn't be on an NFL squad. If I have to watch him chasing down a TE that's about to score for a TD, I'm going to lose it (not actually...it's just a game I guess...). Merriman has looked really good in the preseason. Apparently the Bills doctors did all sorts of crazy surgical stuff to fix whatever was wrong with his leg. That smuggling steroids at the border story was a hoax, and I don't think he would be stupid enough to juice again. He is probably under extra careful scrutiny by the league, considering he's already been suspended for it. If he can stay healthy, I think he'll at least have 6-8 sacks this year. The linebackers should be at least slightly better against the run this year. I also anticipate an increase in sack numbers from LBs this year. An improved DL should eat up blockers better, leaving the LBs free to get to the QB.

Safety - Byrd had 9 ints in the 2009-2010 season as a rookie free safety, but his production fell WAY down to 1 int last year. I don't know why this happened, because the pressure on the QB was the same both years pretty much (making opposing QBs with the same likelihood of making errant throws both years). He was a ball hawk...can he reproduce that season's success? George Wilson is one of my favorite players, because he came to the NFL hoping to be a WR. Seemingly out of nowhere he came from the Bills practice squad as a strong safety, and is now the Bills starter at the position (and a pretty good one at that). Wilson has been at least as good as Whitner was for us. Whitner will not be missed...

Corner Backs - McGee and Florence are two veteran starting CBs. Leodis McKelvin and Aaron Williams are the two young guns. McGee hasn't been able to stay healthy the past few years. He used to be a legit #1 starting corner, but unfortunately age has caught up with him. Florence is okay I guess, but he never looks back at the ball, and gets a ton of pass interference calls against him. McKelvin hasn't played up to his draft status, but he hasn't been atrocious either. Aaron Williams is super physical from what I've seen of him (he's good at jamming receivers at the line). I think he's going to be a good value pick in the 2nd round. Florence and McKelvin will probably start, with McGee and Williams filling in and playing the nickel.

Special Teams - Ryan Lindell and Brian Moorman are both awesome and not an issue (except when Lindell missed that FG in OT against you guys last year!). The coverage units have not looked very good the past couple of years. Maybe that will turn around this year, but I doubt it. Expect to get awesome field position consistently. Out returners are good, but not elite. Spiller had a return TD last year. I'm not sure who will be returning kicks and punts for week 1. It seems to change week to week.

Things to Watch For:

• The Bills to have a much improved run defense. We definitely aren't giving up 274 rushing yards again.
• The Bills secondary is seriously average. I don't know why Cassel didn't exploit it more last year (maybe because all you guys had to do was hand it off every play for a guaranteed 5-6 yards). I'm predicting Cassel to have a better game than he did last year (if he's healthy...with a cracked rib, who knows).
• Spiller might start, or get significant playing time b/c the front office doesn't want their first round pick riding the pine. It's bad for business. He might miss a blitz pick up, and get Fitzpatrick killed...keep an eye out for that.
• See how Stevie Johnson responds to getting double teamed. With Evans gone, that is going to be his new reality.
• Watch to see if the O-line can deal with the KC pass rush. If the Chiefs bring the blitz consistently, I can see Gailey doing a lot of quick throws right behind the rush to Parrish and Spiller.

tl;dr ~ The Bills will win if they can stop the run, and get some big plays.

Prediction: Bills 24 - Chiefs 17

Let's all hope for a fun injury free weekend :clap:

Where they hell are all these Bills posters from. They are really coming out of the woodworks.

Why doesn't everyone just stop the shit talking and wait for the fucking game to unfold?
Nobody here knows they are right, everyone is just throwing sh*t against the wall and hoping it sticks.
After the game is over, everyone in this thread just looks stupid.

And by the way...Beef on Weck is not a ham sandwich! It is a roast beef sandwich damn it!

We love hockey in Buffalo...that's one thing that we as a city have that's better than Kansas City. I'm assuming Chiefs fans root for the Blues?

Yeah, cuz that's why people usually come to message boards...to keep their mouths shut. STFU

I went to the Chiefs/Bills Monday Night game way back in the early 90s. Might have been 1990. I remember getting on the elevater and then these Bills fans get on and they're all decked out and painted up. Even had jr high school type of ribbons pinned on their cloth. Then they got to watch their team get beat down under the lights. That's a great Chiefs/Bills memory.

Beef. Pork. You're splitting hairs. I'd still rather go to Penn Station. The best Subs.

All 10 fans?!

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...6261c13cca.jpg

Hopefully Lilja & McCluster play this year

He stated that if the Bills can't beat us, they might as well try for 0-16, and jump into the Luck sweepstakes.
I would say that's basing their entire season on this game, no?

C'mon now. The Bills have a fantastic fanbase. No way in hell we could ever be accused of being fair-weather fans, either. It's time those assholes start giving us the winning product we deserve!

Honestly, I see our pass rush dominating this game. I think T-Jack is going to get some pressure, and Hali is going to be flapping his wings frequently. I even see Houston causing some havoc.

Chiefs-17 Bills-10

My dad can beat up your dad.





wow that was so much fun.

Chiefs 42, Bills 3

Charles rushes for 212 yards.

Cassel bombs for 390 yards and 4 TD's.

Eric Berry grabs a sweet Pick 6.

Thurman Thomas and Jim Kelly announce they've been gay for each other for 20 years and are both dying of AIDS at halftime.

What does that have to do with our season overall?

Your words - "We suck, we're going to suck."

He's right, this is Buffalo's chance to steal the game. We've shown nothing that tells any rational thinking person that KC will ABSOLUTELY win this game. If this game was in Week 9, he'd probably be singing a different song.

Based on what happened in the PS, I don't think it's out of line for him to think this is the best possible time to play the Chiefs.

I do Remember last year was a little more than I expected.....Dont bring that team

Hockey?

We call that ice soccer here. And no, we don't watch it or root for the Blues.

LOL, if you don't enjoy what happens on a football team's message board, why participate? What did you expect to find in this thread? Good luck in your quest to shut them all up and just have them all wait for the game to happen...nobody ever predicts what will happen in a match-up or projects their thoughts about what will happen in a game...end sarcasm. That's half of what being a fan is.

Your post really isn't any closer than mine to summing up what he said.
I completely believe that either team has a 50-50 chance Sunday.
There really is no way to tell whether or not they will have it together by then.

I'll give Buffalo their due. Apparently that's where hot wings came from. And those don't suck. But as far as I can tell, there's positively nothing else enjoyable about living there.

**** your assumptions.

St. Louis sucks, all of it.

I know. He actually thinks grown men watch dude's prancing around in figure skates with shoulder pads on.

Sounds like a Lady Gaga video to me.

It's too bad that you have such an uninformed opinion about Buffalo and hockey. Kansas City isn't exactly considered a hub of culture and high society either...

You're right. Sometimes when I get home I like to paint a swath on my wall and stare at it intently for 2 hours. This is my pregame for the evening's hockey match.

GET'S ME FIRED UP, BRAH.

And I'll have you know Lil' Wayne performed in concert here no less than two weeks ago. When's the last time Weezy came to your hood, buffaho?

Ah, the old underhanded, uneducated bashing of the city of Buffalo before the game...wouldn't be the same without it.

Buffalo leads the world in losing the superbowl

You aren't making any sense? What does watching paint dry have to do with preparing to watch a hockey game?

You obviously haven't watched any significant amount of hockey. If you had, you would be singing a different tune.

hockey is for a bunch of queers with diapers, the best players in the game are Sindey, and Danelle, and cockeater

March 19, 2011 and then again July 24 2011...

This one time my dad bought me a Bills hat for my birthday.

I was 13. I told him "Dad, I hate Canada and everything about it. Next time you might as well get me a I (Maple Leaf) Canada hat." This I opened up my next present and it was "Informer" by Snow on tape. And I jammed it out really hard and played Road Rash on my PS1.

I remember when Eric Clapton bought his son a buffalo bills hat

If I had watched a significant amount of hockey I'd probably be singing in a barbershop quartet with my boyfriend, Phillipe.

Thankfully, my Dad loved me enough to teach me to love America and her sports at a young age.

LMAO

Hockey has nothing to do with homosexuality, and there is nothing wrong with being gay.

Actually, the Vikings and Broncos lost 4 Super Bowls as well, so it's a tie. The Bills just lost theirs in a row. Lots of teams have never won a Super Bowl...I think 4 teams never played in one.

To be honest, I just played the Bills on Madden '12 and all I can say is you guys are SORRY.

I beat you guys handily with Palko and Jackie Battle.

And I honestly thought your team would be decent this year. Wrong.

You're prolly going 2-14.

Apparently the football team isn't the only thing that blows in Buffalo.

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Hockey is an intense, violent sport.

And Madden has jack squat to do with reality.

Kansas City Adult Basic Education Program: 816.418.7150

If you call the above number, they can set you up with GED preparation classes. If you just keep trying, I know that you'll get it someday.

LOL.

Call. Maybe I'd give a shit if they had a text line, bro. I'm not gonna call and talk to some smelly minority. I might text them though. You guys ever listen to that LOL Smiley Face song by Soulja Boi? That's my shit.

Anyways, I'm gonna give that Madden game another run. I'm gonna leave my WR's set at Urban and McCluster. If your team can't stop those two then I know it's all bad for you come Sunday.

fd

So is croquet. You guys like that game up there in Canada South too?

Bills fans cry Frank's Red Hot sauce. They usually watch old SB films to sauce their wings.

I've only ever played it once, but it was fun. If it's violent, I don't think you're playing it right.

Quoted for mother ****ing truth...

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When was the last time the Chiefs were in the Super Bowl? It was 41 years ago, their only appearance. Still high off that victory, are you? I'm still celebrating the Bills' two AFL Championships from the sixties myself. Yep, we won the whole ball of wax twice when George Washington was president.

14 teams have never won a Super Bowl. Strange how you are somehow a worse franchise for appearing in it more if you don't win.

Between your football team and the amount of snow you get up there, it's not even your fault you're all alcoholics.

No, you're a worse franchise because you don't know how to tailgate; and even when you do tailgate your drink Labatt Blue and wear Toronto Maple Leaf jerseys.

LOL, we don't know how to tailgate?...have you even BEEN to Buffalo? Or are you just making shit up in an attempt to get under Bills fans' skin? That's a rhetorical question by the way...look it up.

In a List of the Drunkest Cities in America:
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Kansas City, MO

Overall Ranking: 36th

Deaths from Liver Disease: 85th
Deaths in DUI Crashes: 10th
Binge Drinking: 42nd
DUI Arrests: 31st
Harsh DUI Laws: 42nd

Grade: D+
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Buffalo, NY

Overall Ranking: 66th

Deaths from Liver Disease: 82nd
Deaths in DUI Crashes: 49th
Binge Drinking: 14th
DUI Arrests: 71st
Harsh DUI Laws: 32nd

Grade: C+



Suck on that hater.

LOL, his problem is that he is drunk RIGHT NOW probably.

LOL @ opposing fans getting trolled on our forum. I ****ing love this place.