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jAZ 05-02-2010 10:44 AM

Since the AFC West is already made up of Southern California, Bay Area, Denver and Kansas City, this seems like a very natural set of rivalries.

Adding KU, Colorado, K-State, Texas and maybe A&M and Tech.
Pac 16 would be good by me then split into:

Mountain region:
Arizona, ASU, Texas, Colorado, Kansas, K-state, A&M, T-Tech

Coastal Region:
UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, OSU, UW, Wazzu.

Seems like a perfect setup. Good for TV too.

jAZ 05-02-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6730797)
The time zone differences would be horrible. I couldn't imagine a 10pm Central Tip.

But we'd have a Pac-16 Network that would free up some of the scheduling issues.

Readymade ESPN games would go on either the early or late slot depending on the teams/locations, others could go on the Pac-16 network or the Duece. Or whatever.

ArrowheadHawk 05-02-2010 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6730802)
Since the AFC West is already made up of Southern California, Bay Area, Denver and Kansas City, this seems like a very natural set of rivalries.

Adding KU, Colorado, K-State, Texas and maybe A&M and Tech.
Pac 16 would be good by me then split into:

Mountain region:
Arizona, ASU, Texas, Colorado, Kansas, K-state, A&M, T-Tech

Coastal Region:
UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, OSU, UW, Wazzu.

Seems like a perfect setup. Good for TV too.

That would be interesting.

|Zach| 05-02-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6730788)
You are stupid.

Hey, not everyone is as smart as you are. Putting Wichita St. in the Big 12.

ArrowheadHawk 05-02-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6730813)
Hey, not everyone is as smart as you are. Putting Wichita St. in the Big 12.

I was just throwing out a list of schools. I made no claim that it was a good list.

duncan_idaho 05-02-2010 10:57 AM

heathpellets -

Don't worry about that. Missouri is not going to pass up the opportunity to move. To do so would be stupid, considering that conference shake-up is coming. Missouri is in (somewhat) of a driver's seat right now and is very attractive to the Big Ten.

It would not be in the same spot in the Pac-10 or the SEC.

This is going to happen and is more of a done deal than has been publicly announced, from what I have been hearing.

The Pac-10 will be a rough fit for ku, but I think it's better than going to the ACC...

Spicy McHaggis 05-02-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6728561)
Can't wait till Colorado goes to the Pac 10 and we have to bring in Rice, TCU, and Memphis. That will be terrible. No BYU, they can't even play on Sundays.

If I'm KU, I'm not waiting for the shit storm to settle and to see who the ever so proactive Big Texas committee can land as replacement schools.

I'm on the horn every ****ing day to the Pac-10, Big 10 and SEC to try to make a jump of my own.

vailpass 05-02-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 6730817)
heathpellets -

Don't worry about that. Missouri is not going to pass up the opportunity to move. To do so would be stupid, considering that conference shake-up is coming. Missouri is in (somewhat) of a driver's seat right now and is very attractive to the Big Ten.

It would not be in the same spot in the Pac-10 or the SEC.

This is going to happen and is more of a done deal than has been publicly announced, from what I have been hearing.

The Pac-10 will be a rough fit for ku, but I think it's better than going to the ACC...

Missouri has some positive attributes but make no mistake: the Big 10 occupies the driver's seat and Mizzou (and others) would very much like to ride.

|Zach| 05-02-2010 11:02 AM

In other news. Kim English had a hilarious twitter message last night. Columbia folks will especially appreciate it.

http://twitter.com/Englishscope24/statuses/13232712512

This student just offered me and my friends, El Rancho Steak Nachos for reperations 4 slavery.. Haha http://yfrog.com/emtskqj

|Zach| 05-02-2010 11:04 AM

The Big Ten gets 70 cents a month per subscriber within the conference’s footprint. So, 70 cents x 12 months x 2.2 million homes = $18,480,000. That’s how much the conference would make per year from the Big Ten Network alone if Missouri were to join the league.

http://ht.ly/1FYbD

Frazod 05-02-2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6730813)
Hey, not everyone is as smart as you are. Putting Wichita St. in the Big 12.

It's not like he has much to work with. LMAO

Rain Man 05-02-2010 11:06 AM

It's probably been said, but if two schools leave the Big 12 for the Big 10, then doesn't the Big 10 become the Big 12 and the Big 12 becomes the Big 10? So in reality those two schools didn't leave, and the other 20 schools did?

vailpass 05-02-2010 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6730834)
It's probably been said, but if two schools leave the Big 12 for the Big 10, then doesn't the Big 10 become the Big 12 and the Big 12 becomes the Big 10? So in reality those two schools didn't leave, and the other 20 schools did?

Big 13?

duncan_idaho 05-02-2010 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6730831)
The Big Ten gets 70 cents a month per subscriber within the conference’s footprint. So, 70 cents x 12 months x 2.2 million homes = $18,480,000. That’s how much the conference would make per year from the Big Ten Network alone if Missouri were to join the league.

http://ht.ly/1FYbD

Yup. Kinda crushes the "The Big Ten won't add more than one team/it dilutes the payouts too much" argument I've seen bandied about on Phog.net, doesn't it?

That's why the Big Ten will add five teams...

Missouri, Nebraska, Syracuse, Pitt and Rutgers (Notre Dame would dump Pitt or Rutgers if it changes its mind).

The cable subscribers alone pay for the teams that are being added. Then you throw in the $35-40 million the four-team, three-game football playoff brings, the increased hoops revenue, and so on... and you see why Big Jim Delaney is making this happen.

That creating a 16-team megaconference in football will spark further realignment and eventually kill the BCS and NCAA helps, too.

Make no mistake, the Big Ten sees this as an opportunity to strike the NCAA. College sports' future is four-superconferences encompassing 64-70 teams.

Everyone else? I guess they can stay in the NCAA, which is going to eventually become a "minor" league.

duncan_idaho 05-02-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6730823)
Missouri has some positive attributes but make no mistake: the Big 10 occupies the driver's seat and Mizzou (and others) would very much like to ride.

Oh, no doubt. But you compare Mizzou to some of the other schools in the running, and the Tigers are much more in control than, say, Pitt (which is a good fit but adds no new TV sets or money), Syracuse (which was not one of the initial five targets but slid up when Notre Dame said "no" again), or any of the other schools that won't get an invite...

Bowser 05-02-2010 11:18 AM

I'm late to this discussion, but maybe this explains why I've been offered Big 10 packages on my TWC service?

RustShack 05-02-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6730834)
It's probably been said, but if two schools leave the Big 12 for the Big 10, then doesn't the Big 10 become the Big 12 and the Big 12 becomes the Big 10? So in reality those two schools didn't leave, and the other 20 schools did?

You know the big 10 currently has 11 schools right?

healthpellets 05-02-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 6730851)
I'm late to this discussion, but maybe this explains why I've been offered Big 10 packages on my TWC service?

while that would be nice, until the day comes when i can get NFLN on TWC, TWC can SUCK MY LEFT NUT.

healthpellets 05-02-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6730831)
The Big Ten gets 70 cents a month per subscriber within the conference’s footprint. So, 70 cents x 12 months x 2.2 million homes = $18,480,000. That’s how much the conference would make per year from the Big Ten Network alone if Missouri were to join the league.

http://ht.ly/1FYbD

will that in any way increase the research funds to be distributed?

KChiefs1 05-02-2010 03:18 PM

I've had the Big Ten Network from day one on Directv. They also have like 5 alternate channels so every game broadcast is available in HD.

crispystl 05-02-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6728574)
I just registered Big16sports.com

****ing Genius

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 03:52 PM

Someone on Huskerboard said that Mizzou and Nebraska will announce their joining the Big Ten.

Reaper16 05-02-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6731285)
Someone on Huskerboard said that Mizzou and Nebraska will announce their joining the Big Ten.

"Tigerboad: Someone on ChiefsPlanet said that someone on Huskerboard said that Mizzou and Nebraska will be announcing they're joining the Big Ten."

Etc.

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6731321)
"Tigerboad: Someone on ChiefsPlanet said that someone on Huskerboard said that Mizzou and Nebraska will be announcing they're joining the Big Ten."

Etc.

Right on.

ChiefsCountry 05-02-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6731285)
Someone on Huskerboard said that Mizzou and Nebraska will announce their joining the Big Ten.

Linky?

kchero 05-02-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6731331)
Linky?

I second the motion.

WoodDraw 05-02-2010 04:38 PM

It's already been debunked. KOMU ran with a ESPN guy guessing about what would happen. They've already retracted, but the story has spread.

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 04:58 PM

Sweet Espn lied again

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 04:58 PM

Anyway Nebraska said they'll take the call http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf,236834

KcMizzou 05-02-2010 05:03 PM

Pretty good read....



Quote:

Big Ten Buzz: The Week that Was

By Dave Matter

Posted May 2, 2010 at 11:37 a.m.

This might have to become a weekly feature on the blog, a roundup of the latest coverage on the biggest storyline in college sports, Big Ten expansion. After some links I’ll share some of my thoughts on the expansion buzz.

● We start with our own Joe Walljasper, who touched on the topic last Sunday.

Walljasper writes …

The Big Ten gets 70 cents a month per subscriber within the conference’s footprint. So, 70 cents x 12 months x 2.2 million homes = $18,480,000. That’s how much the conference would make per year from the Big Ten Network alone if Missouri were to join the league.
Whether that, along with the school’s academic credentials, is enough to merit an invite is the question that will linger until the holidays, but I believe Missouri would be more than happy to join the club if asked. It would be foolish to refuse the offer.

● Austin Murphy, one of my favorite people in the biz, has a thorough sketch of three different realignment scenarios in this week’s Sports Illustrated. In all three, Murphy has Missouri joining the Big Ten.

Murphy writes …

Like many of their conference brethren, the Tigers are irked by what they perceive as the Big 12's Longhorn-centrism and how it distributes (or, more accurately, fails to distribute) its football TV revenue. Where the Big Ten and SEC dispense equal shares, the Big 12 has a weighted formula favoring its strongest teams. While the gentry rakes in $10 million, bottom-feeding Baylor must settle for $7 million — well shy of the $22 mil that its Big Ten analogue, Indiana, is pulling down.

● The Chicago Tribune’s Teddy Greenstein has been all over this developing story for months and shared some thoughts on expansion with the guys at Lake The Posts, a Northwestern blog. He raises an excellent point about revenue sharing in an expanded Big Ten.

Greenstein writes …

Keep in mind that these invitations probably won't be cut-and-dried. Let's say the Big Ten wants Missouri but doesn't think Missouri should get a 1/12th (or 1/14th) split of the revenue pie in its first few years. Then a negotiation ensues.

● Wisconsin AD Barry Alvarez has some words of wisdom for anyone falling for the latest expansion "report" that cites anonymous speculation: "Anything said right now is anyone's imagination."

● Tom Shatel of the Omaha World-Herald addresses expansion from the Cornhuskers' perspective.

Shatel writes ...

Don't assume that (Tom) Osborne is sleeping on this and don't assume that he's Big 12 loyal. The former coach never liked the idea of the Big Eight/Southwest Conference shotgun marriage and all of his predictions about the power shift to Texas have come to fruition. While he's in the A.D. chair, it's Osborne's job to set up Husker football for the future. A move to the Big Ten does that. If he could send a seismic shift through Austin, Texas, on his way out the door, that's called a bonus.

● David Jones of The Patriot-News makes an important point regarding possible Big East targets, Rutgers and Syracuse.

Jones writes …

The Big Ten is hardly interested in the game-to-game ratings Rutgers or Syracuse would bring – which, by the way, are historically comparable to several Big Ten schools. It's the new cable footprint and prospect of a deal with NYC metro provider Cablevision, one similar to the pact arduously hacked out by the BTN with Time-Warner in the Midwest and Comcast in Pennsylvania. That's where the big money is these days in TV sports.

● Dave Sittler of the Tulsa World puts the pressure on Big 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe, who is "the second coming of either Nero or Teddy Roosevelt."

● Finally, my quick thoughts. And, yes, they include the world's greatest archeologist.

IndianaJones.com
Reporters are on a mission to uncover something grand.
I was skeptical of the initial Big Ten buzz only because I doubted the Big Ten’s sincerity about adding teams. For years the Big Ten has wondered aloud about expansion only to table the idea. This time, though, Commissioner Jim Delany is serious about adding schools, and for the first time since Penn State joined the league 20 years ago, there appears to be a groundswell of support for expansion within the conference.


Will Delany ask Missouri to the dance? Seems likely. He might have already picked up the corsage. That said, be wary of any unconfirmed reports from anonymous sources, like the ones that popped up last week and will predictably pop up for weeks, maybe months, to come. There’s a lot of guesswork going on right now and very little, if any, hard news to report. The person who will ultimately break the news of who’s been invited and who’s been accepted into the Big Ten is Delany. No one else. Expansion is his baby to conceive and deliver.

Meanwhile, for sportswriters chasing the expansion story, we get to play Indiana Jones this summer and beyond, trying to uncover a priceless relic/enormous scoop. If so, and if the list of Big Ten additions is the Lost Ark, then we’re just escaping the boulder in Peru — still a while away from all those snakes in the Well of Souls. (That doesn't mean we have to wave our torches at every rumor that slithers on the Internet and out from under other outlets.)

Delany said he's sticking with the 12-18 month timetable he originally laid out in December. I'm with Greenstein in guessing the job gets done sooner than that but no earlier than August or September. The Big Ten’s annual athletic director meetings take place later this month, followed by the Big 12’s annual meetings the first week of June. I can't imagine landmark decisions being made before these meetings commence.

So, when this week's inevitable batch of unsubstantiated "done deal" reports surface on the Internet and elsewhere, remind yourself that before a school can join a new conference it has to be contacted first, then invited. Then again, if negotiations are taking place behind the scenes, the parties involved are surely working under strict confidentiality agreements. Some lies will be told to protect the process.

At this point, we're building stories based on little more than our own conjecture. But unless it’s coming straight from Delany, I’d advise to take any unconfirmed report cum grano salis. (It's Latin, look it up.)
http://ht.ly/1FYbD

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 05:15 PM

**** Texas

kchero 05-02-2010 05:49 PM

It seems the more details I keep hearing the more I want for this deal to go down. It is nice to hear Missouri and Nebraska's name so much being since the pinheads in Texas at the Big 12 office probably couldn't even find us on a map.

Bugeater 05-02-2010 06:52 PM

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Like many of their conference brethren, the Tigers are irked by what they perceive as the Big 12's Longhorn-centrism and how it distributes (or, more accurately, fails to distribute) its football TV revenue. Where the Big Ten and SEC dispense equal shares, the Big 12 has a weighted formula favoring its strongest teams. While the gentry rakes in $10 million, bottom-feeding Baylor must settle for $7 million — well shy of the $22 mil that its Big Ten analogue, Indiana, is pulling down.
Well boo ****ing hoo for Baylor, they also get an equal share of bowl revenue even though they haven't been to a bowl game since the league's inception. I don't feel sorry for them at all.

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Don't assume that (Tom) Osborne is sleeping on this and don't assume that he's Big 12 loyal. The former coach never liked the idea of the Big Eight/Southwest Conference shotgun marriage and all of his predictions about the power shift to Texas have come to fruition. While he's in the A.D. chair, it's Osborne's job to set up Husker football for the future. A move to the Big Ten does that. If he could send a seismic shift through Austin, Texas, on his way out the door, that's called a bonus.
**** yeah!

Sully 05-02-2010 07:27 PM

Did that guy write the phrase "Sooner than but no earlier than..."

what does that mean?

Frazod 05-02-2010 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kchero (Post 6731425)
It seems the more details I keep hearing the more I want for this deal to go down. It is nice to hear Missouri and Nebraska's name so much being since the pinheads in Texas at the Big 12 office probably couldn't even find us on a map.

They probably couldn't find Texas on a map, either.

KcMizzou 05-02-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 6731572)
Did that guy write the phrase "Sooner than but no earlier than..."

what does that mean?

Nevermind... I gotcha.

Quote:

Delany said he's sticking with the 12-18 month timetable he originally laid out in December. I'm with Greenstein in guessing the job gets done sooner than that but no later than August or September.

Mr. Flopnuts 05-02-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6731500)
Well boo ****ing hoo for Baylor, they also get an equal share of bowl revenue even though they haven't been to a bowl game since the league's inception. I don't feel sorry for them at all.


**** yeah!

It doesn't work that way in the Big 10 or Pac 10 as far as I know. Regardless of how much you suck, you get an equal share.

Bugeater 05-02-2010 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6731641)
It doesn't work that way in the Big 10 or Pac 10 as far as I know. Regardless of how much you suck, you get an equal share.

And that's fine since most teams have their ups and downs, but Baylor is just abysmal in football. Is there any team in the Big 10 or Pac 10 that hasn't been to a bowl game since 1996?

Mr. Flopnuts 05-02-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6731646)
And that's fine since most teams have their ups and downs, but Baylor is just abysmal in football. Is there any team in the Big 10 or Pac 10 that hasn't been to a bowl game since 1996?

Northwestern was abysmal for decades. I think they lost something like 60 games in a row back in the 90's. A 14 year stretch is pretty bad though.

Frazod 05-02-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6731651)
Northwestern was abysmal for decades. I think they lost something like 60 games in a row back in the 90's. A 14 year stretch is pretty bad though.

Yeah, I look forward to playing them regularly. :)

Mr. Flopnuts 05-02-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6731655)
Yeah, I look forward to playing them regularly. :)

I'm looking forward to a potential UW vs. Mizzou/Nebraska Rose Bowl.

teedubya 05-02-2010 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 6731239)
****ing Genius

Right on. I figure if these super mega conferences are to happen, one of them will be called the Big16. lol

Bugeater 05-02-2010 08:29 PM

lol, apparently Indiana hasn't been to a bowl game since '93. That's worse than Baylor, they last went to one in '94.

ChiefsCountry 05-02-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6731662)
lol, apparently Indiana hasn't been to a bowl game since '93. That's worse than Baylor, they last went to one in '94.

Try 2007.

Mr. Flopnuts 05-02-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6731657)
Right on. I figure if these super mega conferences are to happen, one of them will be called the Big16. lol

I'd call it the Super Sixteen.

Bugeater 05-02-2010 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6731669)
Try 2007.

Are you sure? That information came from the Big 10's official site.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footb...l-history.html

Edit: Oh hell, I didn't notice that site hasn't been updated since 2004. wtf

ChiefsCountry 05-02-2010 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6731672)
Are you sure? That information came from the Big 10's official site.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footb...l-history.html

They played Oklahoma State in the Insight Bowl.

teedubya 05-02-2010 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6731672)
Are you sure? That information came from the Big 10's official site.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footb...l-history.html

Big Ten Bowl History

Updated January 5, 2004


LAST ROSE BOWL APPEARANCE BY TEAM:

Bugeater 05-02-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6731675)
Big Ten Bowl History

Updated January 5, 2004


LAST ROSE BOWL APPEARANCE BY TEAM:

Yes, I see that now, how stupid of me to think the site would've been updated on a regular basis.

FloridaMan88 05-02-2010 09:23 PM

Missouri was an underachiever in football despite playing the pathetic Big 12 North... good luck trying to build your football program in a much tougher beefed up Big 10.

ChiefsCountry 05-02-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6731747)
Missouri was an underachiever in football despite playing the pathetic Big 12 North... good luck trying to build your football program in a much tougher beefed up Big 10.

Your a dumbass

Reaper16 05-02-2010 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6731747)
Missouri was an underachiever in football despite playing the pathetic Big 12 North... good luck trying to build your football program in a much tougher beefed up Big 10.

:spock: Mizzou was an unlucky ankle injury away from winning the North for the third consecutive year. That isn't underachieving in the North.

FloridaMan88 05-02-2010 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6731748)
Your a dumbass

I believe you mean "you're" or "you are" a dumbass

FloridaMan88 05-02-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6731753)
:spock: Mizzou was an unlucky ankle injury away from winning the North for the third consecutive year. That isn't underachieving in the North.

You completely missed my point...

Despite paying the likes of Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, a down Nebraska and a down Colorado every season for the past 5-6 years... Mizzou has nothing but Independence Bowls and Texas Bowls to show for it.

When you start replacing Kansas, Iowa State and Colorado with the likes of Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio State every year on your schedule, I don't see how that improves your chances of making a better bowl game year in and year out.

KcMizzou 05-02-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6731769)
You completely missed my point...

Despite paying the likes of Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, a down Nebraska and a down Colorado every season for the past 5-6 years... Mizzou has nothing but Independence Bowls and Texas Bowls to show for it.

When you start replacing Kansas, Iowa State and Colorado with the likes of Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio State every year on your schedule, I don't see how that improves your chances of making a better bowl game year in and year out.

Well, you compared the some of the worst football teams in the Big 12, to the best in the Big 10.

That's kinda silly.

FloridaMan88 05-02-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 6731777)
Well, you compared the some of the worst football teams in the Big 12, to the best in the Big 10.

That's kinda silly.

The collective worst football teams in the Big 12 and the Big 12 North have been one in the same the past decade.

Bugeater 05-02-2010 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6731787)
The collective worst football teams in the Big 12 and the Big 12 North have been one in the same the past decade.

JFC. Did you miss the post about Baylor not making a bowl game since 1994?

****ing reeruned Dick-loving Cane fan. :shake:

KcMizzou 05-02-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6731787)
The collective worst football teams in the Big 12 and the Big 12 North have been one in the same the past decade.

I appreciate your concern, but I think Mizzou will do just fine.

Don't worry.

WoodDraw 05-02-2010 10:00 PM

I don't care about KU, but I honestly feel bad for KState if this all goes to hell. They're about to get ****ed.

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6731753)
:spock: Mizzou was an unlucky ankle injury away from winning the North for the third consecutive year. That isn't underachieving in the North.

Bullshit. Mizzou was a whole defense and a coach from winning the Big 12 North.

KcMizzou 05-02-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 6731798)
I don't care about KU, but I honestly feel bad for KState if this all goes to hell. They're about to get ****ed.

Yeah, me too. Most of the KSU fans I know (here or IRL) are good people. Mizzou fans and 'Cat fans have one thing in common at least... rooting against the bully that is KU basketball.

There's not much of a rivalry between KSU and Mizzou, for that to happen, they'd have to have both football programs be really good at the same time.

If this does go down, I'll hate to see them left in the lurch.

Reaper16 05-02-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6731800)
Bullshit. Mizzou was a whole defense and a coach from winning the Big 12 North.

No, Mizzou was a whole defense and a coach away from completely destroying the North and maybe the whole conference. A healthy Gabbert would have still won the North for MU in spite of the team's coaching and defensive flaws last year.

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6731809)
No, Mizzou was a whole defense and a coach away from completely destroying the North and maybe the whole conference. A healthy Gabbert would have still won the North for MU in spite of the team's coaching and defensive flaws last year.


You must have turned the game off after the third quarter. Your team lost because your defense gave up twenty seven points in one quarter get over it.

KcMizzou 05-02-2010 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6731809)
No, Mizzou was a whole defense and a coach away from completely destroying the North and maybe the whole conference. A healthy Gabbert would have still won the North for MU in spite of the team's coaching and defensive flaws last year.

Agreed.

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 10:17 PM

Fine if were playing the injury game Nebraska with a healthy Helu and Zac Lee would have been in a BCS game.

KcMizzou 05-02-2010 10:20 PM

In the end, Nebraska won it. Congrats. It's over now... no use crying over spilled milk.

But saying Mizzou can't compete in the Big 10 is just stupid.

Titty Meat 05-02-2010 10:22 PM

I didn't say they won't in the Big Ten though I do wonder how if at all it changes the way the recruit since they seem to get alot of Texas recruits.

KcMizzou 05-02-2010 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6731820)
I didn't say they won't in the Big Ten though I do wonder how if at all it changes the way the recruit since they seem to get alot of Texas recruits.

Not you, KCChiefsfan88.

And, yeah, I figure there'd be an adjustment period. But in the long term, things would be fine.

Reaper16 05-02-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6731820)
I didn't say they won't in the Big Ten though I do wonder how if at all it changes the way the recruit since they seem to get alot of Texas recruits.

That is a pertinent point.

Coach 05-02-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6729149)
What'd he say about Texas and the Big 12? My dad was aginst it from day one too.

"I'd be suprised if the Big 12 lasts more than 20" years with the current teams."
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chiefsfan987 05-02-2010 11:32 PM

All of this is probably much ado about nothing. Notre Dame in the final hour will probably accept an invitation to the Big Ten giving the conference what it wanted all along.

BWillie 05-03-2010 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw (Post 6731798)
I don't care about KU, but I honestly feel bad for KState if this all goes to hell. They're about to get ****ed.

Meh, they can always go D2 or Div1-AA and join Northwest Missouri State's conference.

Ebolapox 05-03-2010 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6731858)
Meh, they can always go D2 or Div1-AA and join Northwest Missouri State's conference.

ya know, no matter what they say, you could never convince me that ku fans are arrogant. **** naw, brah!

duncan_idaho 05-03-2010 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 6731854)
All of this is probably much ado about nothing. Notre Dame in the final hour will probably accept an invitation to the Big Ten giving the conference what it wanted all along.

Yeah, it will suck for Pitt to get left
out at the last second and have to watch ND join Mizzou, Nebraska, Syracuse and Rutgers as the new members of the Big Ten.

Poor Pitt.

Let's be honest - think about this - does the Big Ten ever make catchup moves? It doesn't. It makes bold,
ground-breaking moves. It will
make another one when it expands.

BigMeatballDave 05-03-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 6731854)
All of this is probably much ado about nothing. Notre Dame in the final hour will probably accept an invitation to the Big Ten giving the conference what it wanted all along.

No way ND gives up its Independent status and lose all that revenue from NBC...

kepp 05-03-2010 08:35 AM

You know, a lot of people (including me) are going to need some kind of prescription medication if Mizzou doesn't get this invite.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-03-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6730532)
Atleast Mizzou will beat Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, ect.

We'll whip YOUR Bo-Bo the Clown-ass too, mother****er! :p

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Originally Posted by healthpellets (Post 6730741)
i dunno. does my disgust for KU come from their participation in our conference, or from their arrogant attitude? a combination of both, but more the latter. and that's not going to change.

Sig Rep.

Ebolapox 05-03-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 6731955)
Yeah, it will suck for Pitt to get left
out at the last second and have to watch ND join Mizzou, Nebraska, Syracuse and Rutgers as the new members of the Big Ten.

Poor Pitt.

Let's be honest - think about this - does the Big Ten ever make catchup moves? It doesn't. It makes bold,
ground-breaking moves. It will
make another one when it expands.

(/blueballs)

what's with the
line
breaks?

Bugeater 05-03-2010 01:02 PM

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We'll whip YOUR Bo-Bo the Clown-ass too, mother****er! :p

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ChiefsCountry 05-03-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 6731967)
No way ND gives up its Independent status and lose all that revenue from NBC...

All the Big Ten schools make more money than Notre Dame does with their tv contract with NBC.
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