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Direckshun 03-10-2010 05:45 PM

I can't believe Bulaga is even considered Top 20 talent.

I'd be willing to look at him in Round 2 at the very soonest.

Mecca 03-10-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6593952)
if i were the ravens, i'd be praying for Tate


they still need youth and speed at WR, and someone to really take advantage of Flacco's arm....

I like Gresham better there...or even Kareem Jackson those guys could start right away.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 05:46 PM

The best OT in the draft is still on the board.

Mecca 03-10-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6593962)
The best OT in the draft is still on the board.

I hope you don't mean Campbell, for all of his workout freak stuff his tape is pretty marginal.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6593966)
I hope you don't mean Campbell, for all of his workout freak stuff his tape is pretty marginal.

Anthony Davis

Sfeihc 03-10-2010 05:49 PM

So if he's there the Cowboys have their replacement for The Hotel, eh?

Mecca 03-10-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6593972)
Anthony Davis

All 3 of the OT's left are very different.

Campbell is a freak who is very young and needs time. Davis has the most versatility and good tape but has the lazy rep and was kinda blah at the combine.

Brown has no versatility and might be scheme limited but has outstanding upside as a pass blocker, it's what you prefer I guess.

BossChief 03-10-2010 05:56 PM

I think Bruce could be a good GB pick. He wouldnt have to play right away and it would provide the team with a long term answer to their franchise qbs blind side after Clifton hangs em up.

But there is still good value at other positions at this point that would give them more immediate bang and less bust potential.

GB would be one of a handful of places that would be a good fit for him IMHO.

the Talking Can 03-10-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6593955)
I like Gresham better there...or even Kareem Jackson those guys could start right away.

yeah, i'd understand gresham


but they still have nothing at wr...mason will retire after this year, and boldin is frequently nicked up

plus, i think they should be going deep more, almost raiders style to make the best advantage of Flacco's arm as opposed to dinking to the TE....

Mecca 03-10-2010 05:58 PM

That team did sign Stallworth factor that in.

the Talking Can 03-10-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6594005)
That team did sign Stallworth factor that in.

actually didn't know that....no clue what he has left

Mecca 03-10-2010 06:02 PM

Baltimore is a BPA team, I think even though they have a need at CB, when this pick comes up it'll be Gresham or one of the pass rushers.

BossChief 03-10-2010 06:02 PM

Just because you draft Gresham doesnt mean you have to dink and dunk.

A player like him would take a lot of underneath attention and would completely open up the deep stuff to the other receivers.

He will be a matchup nightmare.

Not to mention how much of an impact his attention would allow for the team to be devastating on delayed runs and screens.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 6593979)
So if he's there the Cowboys have their replacement for The Hotel, eh?

Cowboys have a luxury of basically going BPA. No real major holes on the team.

Mecca 03-10-2010 06:03 PM

I'm pretty sure Dallas will take whoever the best OL on the board is.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6594024)
I'm pretty sure Dallas will take whoever the best OL on the board is.

If Jerry will let them, Cowboys I beleive haven't took an OL in the first round since he bought the team.

Sfeihc 03-10-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6594027)
If Jerry will let them, Cowboys I beleive haven't took an OL in the first round since he bought the team.

This draft is falling into place very well to fill the need for quality youth on the OL.

Mecca 03-10-2010 06:06 PM

OL or WR is about all I can see them taking...now if a safety or WR falls into their lap that they really like I could see them going there but the way this mock has gone I'd say OL.

BossChief 03-10-2010 06:29 PM

You think Dallas would consider WR after such a substantial investment in the position recently?

I could see them taking OL or rushbacker, but I doubt they would go receiver.

I think Jerry Hughes would be a slam dunk for them, but thats just my opinion if he falls to their pick.

Mecca 03-10-2010 06:32 PM

Both of their OLB's are first rounders, why would they take another one?

DeezNutz 03-10-2010 06:40 PM

Just looked at Walter's list of needs for KC. LMAO.

Worth a look. http://walterfootball.com/offseason2010kc.php

BossChief 03-10-2010 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6594094)
Both of their OLB's are first rounders, why would they take another one?

Spencer has 10 sacks in three years for Wade Phillips defense. Even though his first responsibility is run defense at LOLB, that sack total is dismal and the position deserves an upgrade if the defense is to take the next step.

Jerry Hughes could take the defense to the next level imho.

I could be wrong, but it is more likely that them drafting a wr after investing in Williams and presumably having to make another significant investment in Miles Austin.

Sfeihc 03-10-2010 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6594108)
Just looked at Walter's list of needs for KC. LMAO.

Worth a look. http://walterfootball.com/offseason2010kc.php

Walter loves to pile on the Chiefs. I can't really disagree with him though.

DeezNutz 03-10-2010 06:52 PM

Well, I wish management would make it a little more difficult to do.

Sfeihc 03-10-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6594133)
Well, I wish management would make it a little more difficult to do.


I think they are with the things they've all ready done this off-season. They still have a very long ways to go. This off-season is the true test to see if Pioli sinks or swims in KC.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-10-2010 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6593918)
This is easily the most interesting first round we've had in the four years I've been doing this.

You guys really think about these selections hard, and it shows. This is probably the most thoughtful mock I've followed.

That's a compliment. I'm not sure anyone takes mock drafting more seriously than Direckshun. That said, you probably hated Buffalo at 9 and my choice at 14 the most. :D

Mr. Flopnuts 03-10-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6593972)
Anthony Davis

He's positively last on my list due to the sole fact that I don't think he gives a shit about football for anything but the money. Lots of guys eat themselves out of the league, and an unmotivated pork chop is the last guy I want on my football team.

As high as I am on Mt. Cody that is something that is very, very concerning to me. Anyone can drop a few pounds if there's a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow. What's he gonna do after that check is cashed?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-10-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6594108)
Just looked at Walter's list of needs for KC. LMAO.

Worth a look. http://walterfootball.com/offseason2010kc.php

ROFL

DeezNutz 03-10-2010 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6594176)
That's a compliment. I'm not sure anyone takes mock drafting more seriously than Direckshun. That said, you probably hated Buffalo at 9 and my choice at 14 the most. :D

He was specifically talking to me, you know, since this is my n00b season and all...

Mr. Flopnuts 03-10-2010 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6594191)
He was specifically talking to me, you know, since this is my n00b season and all...

Oh, absolutely. What was I thinking? I actually had to put some thought in for 14. 6 was a no brainer IMO.

BossChief 03-10-2010 07:50 PM

I try not to think too hard, it kills my buzz.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-10-2010 08:09 PM

The Patriots sprint to the podium and take the biggest genetic freak in the entire draft. Campbell has amazing athletic ability, but he is extraordinarily raw. Fortunately, he has top 5 upside, and I only have to pay top 20 price for him. This makes it a far more palatable selection.

I'm honestly stunned that the Steelers did not draft this guy.

Kyle Wilson was also in strong consideration for this pick, but I was strongly considering a 3-4 edge rusher, given that the Pats have nothing in that regard.

I know the Pats spent a second on Vollmer last year, but I think that he can play either position, and seemed quite comfortable replacing Kaczur. This reminds me of the Oher pick of a year ago, simply based on the fact that this is a pure BPA pick, even though I have a solid young LT.

The New England Patriots select Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland.

Mecca is ****ing pissed off, and on the clock (where I know who he'll take).

Mecca 03-10-2010 08:13 PM

I actually wasn't going to take Campbell, I feel Green Bay needs a player that can step in and play right now.

With that said the players I narrowed this pick to were the OT's Campbell, Davis and Brown, and the 2 rushers in Griffen and Kindle.

I had always leaned pass rusher with this pick but Anthony Davis is to good to still be on the board, the tape says this guy should be a top 15 pick.

Green Bay selects Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers

Filling a need with the best player on the board who is ready to play right now.

The Franchise 03-10-2010 08:42 PM

Well this is obviously a no brainer for the Eagles. They need a DE and a S....all of the top 3 safeties are gone at this point and they just recently signed Marlin Jackson to compete at the FS position with Macho Harris.

The Philadelphia Eagles select Everson Griffin, DE, University of Southern California

Some are saying that Griffin can stand up and rush the passer but a lot of people say that he's going to flourish as a 4-3 DE. So that's where the Eagles are going to stick him. He'll play opposite of Trent Cole in the Eagles 4-3. The Eagles would have loved for one of the top two DEs to fall to them....but it didn't work out that way.

Mecca 03-10-2010 08:47 PM

That's a logical pick, the Eagles value rushers so if he's there that's probably the pick.

Titty Meat 03-10-2010 08:55 PM

Who's winning the draft so far?

Marco Polo 03-10-2010 09:07 PM

Unlike Kansas City, Baltimore is in an unique position because they can go BPA and not go on need. At this pick, I looked at several options: CB from Florida State, DE from Florida, OLB from Texas or the following pick....

The Baltimore Ravens select Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma University, to be the heir apparent to replace Todd Heap.

The Cardinals are on the clock.

Mecca 03-10-2010 09:14 PM

Gresham is a good pick there, that's where I'd have went too.

Mecca 03-10-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6594395)
Who's winning the draft so far?

Good question, I got a great value with my GB pick, Davis should at worst be a top 15 pick.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 09:15 PM

Baltimore loads up even more. If Flaaco can turn out, good grief.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6594424)
Good question, I got a great value with my GB pick, Davis should at worst be a top 15 pick.

Davis is better than Okunshit.

Mecca 03-10-2010 09:16 PM

This is a no brainer pick for the Cards though, it has to be 1 of 2 guys...

DeezNutz 03-10-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6594431)
This is a no brainer pick for the Cards though, it has to be 1 of 2 guys...

Hey, don't try to jinx the draft.

Mecca 03-10-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6594434)
Hey, don't try to jinx the draft.

If you aren't taking Kindle or Hughes here I'm going to give you a :spock:

DeezNutz 03-10-2010 09:22 PM

For a team that was in the SB two years ago, this club has serious needs at the most critical positions: QB, OT, NT, and OLB.

There isn't a QB or NT worthy of the selection at this point. Thus, there are two players atop the board: Charles Brown and Sergio Kindle.

The latter is too talented, with impressive upside. Plus, he is a player who can make an immediate splash in this ****ing desolate place.

AZ selects: Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas

Mecca 03-10-2010 09:23 PM

And you made the pick I would have made, nice job son.

I think that leaves this next pick as a basic no brainer...

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 09:33 PM

Pretty easy pick, the Cowboys decided to find the Hotel's replacement.

Dallas Cowboys select Charles Brown, OT USC

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 09:42 PM

So Ryan Matthews going off the board right now?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-10-2010 09:47 PM

Well, I've got a no brainer coming up here as long as no one snatches him up.

RealSNR 03-10-2010 10:14 PM

Even with lots of good corners still in the draft, I figure the Chargers can get a decent one later in the draft.

The San Diego Chargers select Ryan Matthews, RB, Fresno State

Archie Bunker 03-10-2010 11:25 PM

Time to build up the offense and help Sanchez take the next step.
The New York Jets select Golden Tate,WR,Notre Dame
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Archie Bunker 03-10-2010 11:27 PM

Sorry for my lack of bold. I'll fix it at work tomorrow.
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ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 11:30 PM

Direction get in here and finish winning the draft.

doomy3 03-10-2010 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 6594659)
Time to build up the offense and help Sanchez take the next step. The New York Jets select Golden Tate,WR,Notre Dame
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I like that pick for the Jets. They could be really, really good for a lot of years.

Rams Fan 03-10-2010 11:38 PM

Clausen may fall into the second.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 6594673)
Clausen may fall into the second.

He doesn't fall past Buffalo.

Rams Fan 03-10-2010 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6594678)
He doesn't fall past Buffalo.


Not true. Think about it. Gailey may want an ex-Chief who is a Dolphin as QB, Thigpen. Seattle may decide to keep Hasselbeck one more year.

BossChief 03-10-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 6594673)
Clausen may fall into the second.

you are off to a great start!

Dont back down here man, let these know nothings have it!!!

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Nightfyre 03-10-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 6594682)
Not true. Think about it. Gailey may want an ex-Chief who is a Dolphin as QB, Thigpen. Seattle may decide to keep Hasselbeck one more year.

You're out of your mind if you think Clausen will fall to the second round.

Rams Fan 03-10-2010 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6594686)
You're out of your mind if you think Clausen will fall to the second round.

He may slide. At the latest, I think now, would be to Arizona.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 11:56 PM

Only way Clausen slides even down to Arizona is if he gets caught with a hooker, crack or something like that.

Mecca 03-11-2010 12:13 AM

Personally I think that spot the Jets would take Jerry Hughes, Ryan loves pass rushers.

Direckshun 03-11-2010 01:28 AM

There I was, in my lavish leather chair, scarved in my velvet robe with man-slippers wobbling loosely on my toes. Manhattan in one hand, olive in tact, and The New Yorker in the other. I was packing my corncob pipe with tobacco and flipping between my two most prestigious television programs, "Jersey Shore" and DVR'd episodes of "Glenn Beck." I can't stand this socialist hellhole!, but I love me some reality TV zazz.

I was celebrating because I had just picked Taylor Mays for the Broncos, and I was fairly certain that the excellence of that pick would stun a team of oxen dead in its tracks. Its effect would be even more drastic with a pathetic gaggle of draftnik wannabes like yourselves -- I mean, I had won the ChiefsPlanet Mock Draft a fourth year in a row, a feat that's NEVER ONCE been accomplished in the history of mankind! I was getting a blowjob from a conga-line of Bronco fans, while serenading them with "we're going to beat the hell out of you, you you you..."! (Let's just say Donk fans will put up with anything if you get them a centerfield safety.)

But I get a rude awakening in my PM box, which I was surprised to learn was not a congratulatory message on my Mock Victory.

It was from Archie Bunker. APPARENTLY we're still doing this thing. I guess even Angola played the Dream Team all four quarters, right?

Well get ready to get dunked on, bitches. The Vikes are up and they are PISSED. They can't BELIEVE they lost the NFC Championship to a team they outgained and outplayed.

Roger Goddell won't even come out to announce their pick. No, wait, not even that. The entire starting DL has actually shown up and shoved him into Charlie Weis' lunchbox. The Vikings, finally armed with a premier Mock Owner, aren't even going to bother announcing anything. I'm just going to point to the player I want and the boys will storm the Green Room to steal him away.

The decision shakes out to the two players that I believe are the best remaining on this board, both of them defensive tackles. Neither one will be able to aptly replace Pat Williams as a pure run-stuffer, but they can further bolster the defensive line and keep this team's defense better for longer. There are no cornerbacks or quarterbacks that I like here, and I actually dislike a shitton of the WRs I've seen this year.

Maurkice Pouncey is an option to solidify the one OL position I think is shit on this team, but centers come and centers go; defensive line is forever.

Odrick and Price are both penetrators in the mold of the other Williams brother, but in this case I think Odrick is the most adaptable. Odrick isn't a maxed out overachiever like Price is. Price is very limited to penetrating, Odrick has room to get even bigger than his 310 lbs body, and he can take a year while Pat plays his last year to get some of his anchoring down pat, which will naturally improve as he puts weight on.

I like the upside in this guy, so this is the direction I'm going, to even further solidify my victory.

The Minnesota Vikings select DT Jared Odrick, Penn State.

Mecca 03-11-2010 02:29 AM

That's not a bad pick but the Vikings have to heavily consider CB because of what happened to Griffin.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-11-2010 09:40 AM

There are guys available that are higher on my draft board. The Colts are going to have the luxury of drafting BPA for most of this draft. They do have one need that just recently came up with the release of Ryan Lilja. We're going to address it right now with a very versatile lineman that will start off at G, and could easily end up replacing Jeff Saturday in the next couple of years.

With the 31st pick in the 2010 NFL Draft the Indianapolis Colts select Maurkice Poncey C from Florida.

The Franchise 03-11-2010 10:09 AM

Ok guys.....I need *insert player's name here* to last 17 more picks.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-11-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6595177)
There are guys available that are higher on my draft board. The Colts are going to have the luxury of drafting BPA for most of this draft. They do have one need that just recently came up with the release of Ryan Lilja. We're going to address it right now with a very versatile lineman that will start off at G, and could easily end up replacing Jeff Saturday in the next couple of years.

With the 31st pick in the 2010 NFL Draft the Indianapolis Colts select Maurkice Poncey C from Florida.

Don't trust Pollak to move back to his college position?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-11-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6595366)
Don't trust Pollak to move back to his college position?

Possibly. They signed Alleman too. But they need help all across their line and Pouncey is a versatile guy that will end up replacing Jeff Saturday. He seemed like a no brainer here, although there were a couple of guys sitting out there that I really wanted to grab. Had Golden Tate still been sitting there I would've been faced with a huge decision. I think Tate and Manning would be crazy.

I would've loved to snag Kyle Wilson as well. I just thought Pouncey made the most sense for them right now.

BigChiefFan 03-11-2010 11:09 AM

New Orleans Saints select...DE from Florida, Carlos Dunlap.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-11-2010 11:40 AM

The St. Louis Rams select Brian Price, DT, UCLA.


I really thought about a corner here, but the one who had real value to me, Robinson, seems to be too risky of a selection. He's the most physically talented corner in the draft, but he has serious character and motivational concerns and doesn't play up to his ability.

Price was a monster in his three years at UCLA, particularly last year when he registered 7.5 sacks.

If I'm Spagnuolo, I can't count on Adam Carriker for anything. He was hurt last year and in 2008 played like garbage as a 3 technique. His most productive year was his rookie year, when he played nose.

Unforunately, this team has invested a lot of resources in DL, but none of them can rush the passer save for the decrepit Leonard Little. Getting Price here and putting him in at 3 technique will help out draft disappointment Chris Long, even if I think he's ideally suited as a left end.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-11-2010 12:03 PM

I've got 5 guys I'm targeting for the Hawks in the 2nd round and 6 people picking in front of me. Will at least 1 of them fall?

Sfeihc 03-11-2010 12:16 PM

With the second pick in the second round of the 2010 Chiefs Planet Mock Draft the Detroit Lions select cornerback from Rutgers, Devin McCourty. He can help fill the void at corner and contribute on special teams.

BigChiefFan 03-11-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6595423)
New Orleans Saints select...DE from Florida, Carlos Dunlap.

I actually thought that was a damn good player to add to a Super Bowl caliber team. His DUI cost him in the draft, but he's got top 10 talent. The Saints get a steal, if he can keep his head on straight. Thoughts on Dunlap?

ChiefsCountry 03-11-2010 01:09 PM

Dunlap is a top 5 talent IMO. His off the field stuff hurt him. Hell of a pick for Nawlins.
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BigChiefFan 03-11-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6595825)
Dunlap is a top 5 talent IMO. His off the field stuff hurt him. Hell of a pick for Nawlins.
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Thanks, man. My thoughts, as well. For the bottom of the 1st round, adding that kind of talent is a major coup in my book.

The Franchise 03-11-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 6595626)
With the second pick in the second round of the 2010 Chiefs Planet Mock Draft the Detroit Lions select cornerback from Rutgers, Devin McCourty. He can help fill the void at corner and contribute on special teams.

Nice pick.

Archie Bunker 03-11-2010 01:47 PM

The Bucs WR depth chart will make a man cry so I'm pretty happy this guy is available. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois

The Franchise 03-11-2010 01:47 PM

The Chiefs are on the clock.

This next pick has to be a 3-4 DE......right?

Danman 03-11-2010 01:51 PM

Glad Benn is off the board-I think he'll be a bust. Chiefs on the clock. Hope we pick a big tub of goo for a NT

Sfeihc 03-11-2010 01:55 PM

Thank you. When drafting for a team like Detroit fixing the potential starting lineup is really foremost in my mind. That's why I took Okung and now went with McCourty over other players. By adding Corey Williams and KVB the Lions now can field a respectable starting defensive line. The same couldn't be said for the secondary and offensive line. No position on the Lions is a finished product in terms of talent but these two draft picks fill their two most pressing needs.


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