Pioli trail is cold today.

The Planet should have their own guy out there. Think of the rumors it would spawn.

Anyone know the N-Number of the plane?

IF it isnt blocked, you can track it on www.flightaware.com...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/p...urn=nfl,131893


NFL - Sports Rumors Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:54 am EST

Browns may have to pick between Mangini, Pioli The Cleveland Browns' strong interest in fired New York Jets coach Eric Mangini could impact their search for a front-office executive, a league source with knowledge of the situation told the Cleveland Plain Dealer Thursday.

The Browns interviewed Mangini on Tuesday night and were impressed with him. They interviewed New England Patriots Vice President Scott Pioli on Wednesday and liked him, too.

But it's unknown if the two would be willing to work together after the Spygate scandal, so for the Browns, it might come to this: Do they hire the coach they love or the general manager they love?

If the Browns hire Mangini, knowing there is evidence that the coach is the biggest indicator of a franchise's success, he'd probably already have his own right-hand personnel man in mind. If they hire Pioli, he'd undoubtedly be given the authority to hire his own coach.

One thing is certain: The Browns want their coach and GM in complete synch this time, so they'd let each man choose his partner. Pioli and Mangini were once close, but it is unknown exactly where they stand after the yearlong controversy over the Patriots' taping of the Jets' defensive signals.

Pioli left his meeting with the Browns still intent on going through with his scheduled interview with the Kansas City Chiefs. A source told The Plain Dealer on Thursday that the two sides parted ways with no timeframe for a decision from Pioli. The source said a report in the Boston Herald that the Browns gave him a deadline of Thursday was untrue.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

Related: Cleveland Browns, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots, New York Jets

"Major" announcement and press conference with Clark Hunt scheduled for Tuesday at Arrowhead.

Link? On the radio? Friend's wife's sister's husband knows a source?

We landed Pioli. It will be announced tomorrow.

Press release to the public. Heard it on 810.

Could be about the new stadium sponsorship or...who knows? Last "major" press announcement was that we were going to be on Hard Knocks. So its probably nothing.

Is this true or are you being an ass?

New stadium sponsorship? Who gives a flying rat's ass? It's not beyond Clark, but still. **** that when we're looking for a GM.

That IS probably what it is though :cuss:
Considering it's Friday, and they would choose to schedule it for Tuesday, that would be weird.

I've decided to let Herm go
so he can find other employment

He's probably going to announce that he really enjoys Papa John's new Wheat Crust and everyone should go out and get one with the new wheat crust. Then Mitch Holthus pops his head out behind the curtain and does his advertising bit that you hear on 101.1.

Sorry forgot the ;)

Since your a KU fan I will forgive you.

lol Rock Chalk it baby!

I think two weeks ago the Chiefs said they would announce 2009 ticket prices/plans after the first of the year. My guess this could be the announcement, but a new sponsor wouldn't surprise me.

I think last year was the last year for the KCTV 5 preseason deal, so it could be related to that.

I think I've got it. Look at next years schedule on kcchiefs.com? Notice anything? 9 home games instead of 10. Bet we are playing in Germany or something next year.

Yes!! Lets take our epic suck overseas!

Where are you seeing that? I thought they didn't release preseason schedules until April or so.

Season ticket sales. Look at the advertising on the right.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/tickets/new_season_tickets/
We are missing an AFC East oppenent.

and you know this how?

The AFC East team that is missing is the Bills and that is because that wasn't decided until the final week. I'm sure the Chiefs have just not updated the site because of the Holiday's.

Two things to keep in mind.
1. The NFL has already announced that the Bucs and Pats are playing the International Game in London next year.

2. I doubt anyone would want to waste international exposure on the Chiefs vs. Bills.
Buffalo played an International Game this season in Toronto.

Hey, we are just speculating on a "major" announcement. It's probably naming rights or something like that.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/tickets/single_game_tickets/

All 10 teams at home with the correct dates.

I bet Garmin got the stadium rights. They advertised a ton during the NFL season.

they were neck and neck with Jack Links
until Kris Wilson hit the trail and couldn't mess with him

There is a short video update on the KC Star's website:

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_ho...dia?id=2724783

Basically it is no new information. Just the fact that Clark Hunt has a sitdown interview scheduled with Pioli (doesn't say when or where it will take place) and sources in Boston are saying Pioli wants control of everything (football operations and business side of the franchise).

:LOL:

Providing it turns out to be accurate, I will be the first in line to give Nick credit. He is literally the only person passing along news on this situation today.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer is saying that Clark and Pioli are scheduled to meet on Monday, but it may be pushed up to Saturday.

If that's accurate, it's suddenly not looking so good for ol' Nick.

Because it's totally out of the question they might meet more than once.

I just have a hard time believing that Pioli wants full business control too.

I know he wants full control over football operations. I have to believe also, if this was the case, Pioli's agent would have relayed this to Clark before even meeting.

I think he wants full football control. Why would Pioli care about the business side?

What is interesting though is that we haven't heard about any interviews for Team Pres. or CEO.

Nice try.

They are clearly saying that nothing between Pioli and Hunt has happened to this point. Granted, though, it's a Cleveland paper, and why would they be up-to-date on dealings between New England and Kansas City?

But if Nick whiffs on this one, especially after what he's been spreading the last few hours... ouch.

They're wrong.

So, if you had to put odds on Nick's being right, about what might they be?

Odds on Nick being right that Clark and Pioli met? 100%

If Pioli is hired and his "big move" is to hire Kirk Ferentz, color me unimpressed.

And not interested.

We shall see. I've already said I'd be the first to give Nick credit if he's right, since he's been the only person on this. I shall sing his praises to the hilt if that turns out to be the case.

I'll even start a new thread to do it if you want.

Nah, no one will care. I'm anticipating we're going to break something anyway.

So you're saying that nick is the ONLY one to know of a meeting and report that Clark and Pioli has met? I find it hard to believe that considering Nicks record

Alrighty!

Clay, are you hearing Ferentz?

This.

If it happens, I'll be highly disappointed.

I haven't been on the Pioli bandwagon from the start.

Eric DeCosta........FTW.

Co-signed.

Hear-Hear

I like Pioli, but the Ferentz hire would be a downer.

I'm willing to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt for 2 years with Ferentz if he does hire him.

My big concern is that Romeo will come with him and we will run a 3-4, which would be horrible for the talent we do have on defense.

What is nick hearing again? I must've missed that

Other than Dorsey and Tyler, who would it really be horrible for?

Our front seven is horrible running a 4-3, if there was ever a time to make the chance, it's now.

Not necessarily advocating it, but if a new coach came in and made the move, I'd support it.

I guess DJ could flourish because he'd get to be a rush backer. DeMorrio would move to one of the inside spots. I'm guessing Tamba would become the other outside backer with DJ.

I think Dorsey would be the one who was really neutralized. He would likely become the LDE. Turk would be the other.

I guess it wouldn't be terrible, and I'd be jacked as hell to have a defensive coordinator that could actually coach players.

They played a little bit of 4-3 before they won the first SB with McGinnest at DE, before they started drafting all the DLinemen. With Dorsey we might play a bit of both. The raiders tried it a few years ago and Sapp didn't look very good at DE.

This.

Won't it be up to Ferentz to what kind of defense he wants to run? I don't know much about Ferentz, does he run a 3-4 now?

I'm pretty sure Iowa runs a 4-3. But I thought Ferentz was an offensive line coach, so a different D-coordinator might have a different idea. I really don't have a huge problem with Ferentz if Pioli is calling the shots. Everybody has wanted Pioli for eons and now people are going cold because he might hire Ferentz? He's probably not an exciting choice but I would say I like him over a lot of other college coaches.

But that's going to happen if we hire Pioli anyway... I don't think the Patriots always do the 'normal' thing to begin with. It's not we hire the guy and magic will start happening, the Patriots don't always do the flashy thing to begin with.

that just made me shutter in horror... there's no way he could play that position

who is the last college coach to successfully transition into the NFL?

they don't have the respect of the players... and without that there's nothing. the track record over the last decade has shown this.

and give me a break with kirk ****ing ferentz... this year iowa was OK, but they've been underachieving for a while now... and this is pioli's "guy"?

well i'm sorry, but that's a dealbreaker

what has he been spreading?

AIDS

I'm ready to like Pioli, but if he screws up the coaching decision I'll consider both of them bad hires. I don't know anything about this Ferentz guy, but hiring from the college ranks doesn't exactly thrill me.

I believe it is refered to as a tease

Ferentz spent 6 years as the OL coach for Cleveland/Balt. So he has NFL experience.

Ferentz was an offensive line coach at Iowa under Hayden Fry in the 80's. He then worked under Belichick with the Browns, and moved with the team to Baltimore... he spent 6 years in the NFL as an offensive line and assistant HC before taking the Iowa job.

I bet Ferentz knows "flustrated" isn't a word.

butch davis had prior nfl experience before his first gig as an nfl head coach too... and he was a defensive coordinator for the cowboys in their hay day...

i just feel like they don't have full command of a lockerroom when they first get the job which puts them behind the eight ball.. it's just a bad idea imho

A few hours ago, this fraud Athan was whipping his duped subscribers into a frenzy by making it seem like Scott Pioli, Bill Cowher, and Mike Shanahan were all fighting it out to come to KC. Someone should call the better business bureau.

Thanks for reading.

No problem.

WPI is the internet's version of dinner theater
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Common misconception.

It's $109.95

That's why it's important on who he chooses as his staff. IMO, you can't let a HC from college come in and bring in all or most of his staff from college.

This year we had Gailey bring in his OL and RB coach from Gtech and Eric Price from UTEP as WR coach. It wasn't a problem from a credibility standpoint because most the players were young and Gailey has the credibility.

Plus guys like Spurrier, Petrino, and Saban all have pretty arrogant ego's. They all rubbed pro players the wrong way.

Davis had Jimmy Johnson in his ear telling him he needed control of Personell as well. Carmen Policy and Dwight Clark had as much of a hand in that mess as Davis did.

I'm not sure that Pioli would pinpoint on Ferentz but the speculation is and has always been that IF he returned to the NFL it would come from one of the people from CLE/BALT that he worked with. From that list Pioli is close friends with him and guys like Phil Savage, Eric Mangini, Eric DeCosta, and Jim Schwartz were all around starting out as coaches/scouts.

All i want is people that are put in the HC GM and down the line, in those positions is that they are all on the same page and all know their role. The scouts spend 3 years on avg scouting potential picks. Coaches come in after the season and get their say but I think you need a sound personell dept to really get the job done like the steelers have.

It doesn't help with the egos of CP and Herm, so that in itself will help matters.

2 guys that aren't getting a ton of looks but have in the past are Russ Grimm and Mike Mulurky.

Mulurky has done very well with the falcons O this year. Signing Turner and Drafting Ryan sure helps him look good, but many thought they would have trouble with that OL this year.

Grimm was close to getting the Steelers job before they decided on Tomlin. He has the pedigree with playing OL for Joe Gibbs and coaching under Cowher doesn't hurt.

Funny, because on the Brown's Scout board they are reporting that Jay Glazer is saying that Pioli will prolly wind up on Cleveland....

link?

But he's NEW!1!

Chaaaaaaaaange! Yeeeeaaaaaarh! CHANGE!

Not funny.

Or shocking...

No way Peoli screws up the "coaching hire" he is Parcell's son-in-law and has been schooled well I'm sure. IF and that is a BIG IF he comes here Herm is gone for sure. ;)

I forget the policy on repeating PREMIUM~! information, if there even is one. But I think one can easily infer from Claythan's earlier "meeting more than once" post that Nick is saying Clark and Pioli have already met.

That's not even the half of it, really, but I don't want to pile on too much.

Do their wives know?

It's the Americanization of his immigrant parents' name Pee-Oily. Very large clan in the old country.

Especially when there is absolutely no wit or humor in it.