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MahomesMagic 04-15-2025 06:24 PM

My Green Bay guy thinks Chiefs are going for


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Because Kelce and Hollywood will be gone next year.

Deberg_1990 04-15-2025 06:28 PM

Let the draft come to you Chiefs

staylor26 04-15-2025 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18030621)
My Green Bay guy thinks Chiefs are going for


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Because Kelce and Hollywood will be gone next year.

By your "GB guy" do you mean just another fan or somebody that you consider a source?

TomBarndtsTwin 04-15-2025 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18030621)
My Green Bay guy thinks Chiefs are going for


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Because Kelce and Hollywood will be gone next year.

Think it’s a good possibility Chiefs take a WR or athletic TE pretty high (63 or 66) for that very reason . . . . .

flinchfree 04-15-2025 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18030105)
You realize that the difference in 'average pocket time' between the BEST team in the league and the WORST team in the league is 2.6 seconds vs. 2.1 seconds, right?

The 7th best team in the league was at 2.4 seconds. The 28th best team in the league was at 2.3 seconds. A tenth of a second separated 2/3 of the NFL last season.

This idea that anyone's gonna build PM some great wall by adding Josh Conerly or Josh Simmons is just silly.

He's gonna have somewhere between 2.3 and 2.5 seconds to throw next season. Same as everyone else.

He'll have a pressure rate somewhere between 20% and 25% -- same as everyone else.

We're not gonna get him 3 seconds to throw the football, fellas. And 4 is just laughably ignorant.

It's not asking for 3-4 seconds on every play........it's asking for 3-4 seconds when you absolutely want it or need it to get a play off downfield, while not getting eaten like a plate of Wilson wings at Johnny's Tavern (extra time on the grill please!) by an opposition defense because they know you want it too.

You still, over a season, average like most everyone else on time to throw.
But being able to hold up so some magic from Mahomes can actually take place is the requisite minimum. It can't be just 'make it work' Pat, or I'll write on a forum that you can't stop shitting down your leg.
Or I guess you can go on just being happy to have a very average game manager, because that's where Pat's at in that space.
Brady was absolutely super ****ing elite at it, Mahomes isn't.
Give Mahomes a pocket that isn't guaranteed to melt after 2.3 seconds so that he can shuffle WITHIN protection on occasion, find a later developing route, and rip hearts out.
That's who Pat is.
Just ****ing give him a competent line please.

JMTC

RunKC 04-15-2025 07:47 PM

As much as I would love Golden, I don’t see any way he falls that far. He’s too good.

I think if they trade up they’re trying to leap frog teams for either a DT or OT.

ForeverIowan 04-15-2025 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18030614)
If the Chiefs do draft him, we will all cross our fingers and hope that Simmons is literally the first NFL player ever to tear his patellar tendon and be the same player physically after that.

But the data is awful on this. Literally every NFL dude you can find who had this injury either (a) had it end their career or (b) made it back on the field but was never the same/as good as before.

Not being a wise ass here and sorry if it has already been discussed, but what previous players had this injury? If it seriously damaged/ended their career how old were they at the time of injury? Genuinely curious.

Without the injury history this dude is likely a top 5 pick. If the Chiefs medical experts think he checks out I think it is well worth the risk. As long as Mahomes is under center and Reid is the coach, we are gonna be picking late in the first every single year. Golden opportunity to steal a franchise left tackle. If...IF...they think he is ready to roll.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-15-2025 08:04 PM

That's exciting. I wonder who they have their eyes on. A good edge rusher would be awesome. I hear this draft is strong at the position.

Couch-Potato 04-15-2025 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 18030711)
Not being a wise ass here and sorry if it has already been discussed, but what previous players had this injury? If it seriously damaged/ended their career how old were they at the time of injury? Genuinely curious.

Without the injury history this dude is likely a top 5 pick. If the Chiefs medical experts think he checks out I think it is well worth the risk. As long as Mahomes is under center and Reid is the coach, we are gonna be picking late in the first every single year. Golden opportunity to steal a franchise left tackle. If...IF...they think he is ready to roll.

I agree on both fronts.

I’d like to hear some case studies around this injury, positive and negative.

But, ultimately, if the Chiefs staff medical say it’s a go then I’m 100% for it.

Semichief 04-15-2025 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 18030713)
That's exciting. I wonder who they have their eyes on. A good edge rusher would be awesome. I hear this draft is strong at the position.

It’s more deep than strong. The top end of this draft is weak but there is excellent depth at several positions, including DT, DE, CB and RB. It means those 2nd-4th rounds are more likely to produce starters than perhaps other years. Which makes it all the more confusing why we’d give up a pick to move up 5-10 spots. The talent level differential berwen 20 and 30 in draft is less significant than other years.

I hope this is just noise. That said, I’d get excited to snag someone like Nolen or Stewart.

duncan_idaho 04-15-2025 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 18030711)
Not being a wise ass here and sorry if it has already been discussed, but what previous players had this injury? If it seriously damaged/ended their career how old were they at the time of injury? Genuinely curious.

Without the injury history this dude is likely a top 5 pick. If the Chiefs medical experts think he checks out I think it is well worth the risk. As long as Mahomes is under center and Reid is the coach, we are gonna be picking late in the first every single year. Golden opportunity to steal a franchise left tackle. If...IF...they think he is ready to roll.


Jimmy Graham (never the same)
Victor Cruz (never the same)
Jarod Mayo (ended career)
Cadillac Williams (never the same)
The Chiefs Lucas Niang (after his first year)
Jack Conklin (hasn’t played as well since coming back, can’t stay healthy)
Ryan Williams (Cardinals RB, ended career)
JC Jackson (never the same)
Le Charles Bentley (ended career)

Most of these guys were early in their careers/in their prime.

Like 50 percent of guys who have this injury have even return to play in the NFL. And I can’t find a single dude who came back and was as good as he was before.

Simmons’ knee can check out healthy and the repair can be successful, and all history tells us that his new “healthy best” won’t be as good as it was before.

That’s the problem.

RunKC 04-15-2025 09:08 PM

I am not giving up hope. Please Veach trade up and get this kid I beg you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Derrick Harmon has a case for second best pass rusher in the class. Arsenal of moves. NFL size. Really long. Very athletic. Aware of where the QB is moving. Variety of alignments.<br><br>My DT1. Top 10 overall player. <a href="https://t.co/Qe9GsYOnIh">pic.twitter.com/Qe9GsYOnIh</a></p>&mdash; Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaydenWinks/status/1911992031322214449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ForeverIowan 04-15-2025 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18030727)
Jimmy Graham (never the same)
Victor Cruz (never the same)
Jarod Mayo (ended career)
Cadillac Williams (never the same)
The Chiefs Lucas Niang (after his first year)
Jack Conklin (hasn’t played as well since coming back, can’t stay healthy)
Ryan Williams (Cardinals RB, ended career)
JC Jackson (never the same)
Le Charles Bentley (ended career)

Most of these guys were early in their careers/in their prime.

Like 50 percent of guys who have this injury have even return to play in the NFL. And I can’t find a single dude who came back and was as good as he was before.

Simmons’ knee can check out healthy and the repair can be successful, and all history tells us that his new “healthy best” won’t be as good as it was before.

That’s the problem.

Interesting to say the least. Simmons has youth on his side. I also think KC is in the perfect spot to take a gamble with Jaylon Moore in the fold for the next two years. We'll see how far he slides.

ShortRoundChief 04-15-2025 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18030625)
By your "GB guy" do you mean just another fan or somebody that you consider a source?


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xztop123 04-15-2025 10:24 PM

I agree about Derrick Harmon. He doesn’t get that many sacks but his pressure rate is by far the highest of the dts

My favorite dt this year even above the Michigan guy


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