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Dunerdr 02-10-2025 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17962454)
Let’s not forget that Roseman got a lot of talent higher in the draft than where KC drafts. He’s good, but he’s also not drafting 30-32 every season.

He's still drafting in the 20s. Usually late. The Eagles simply prioritize OL and DL over everything else. Its kept them competitive even when they shouldn't be.

YontsRBake 02-10-2025 10:18 AM

Skyy Moore

BigRedChief 02-10-2025 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17962414)
Mike Caliendo, we need you to take your playbook and meet Brett Veach in his office

Its not his fault he doesn't have natural elite NFL talent. Its the Chiefs fault but more specifically the NFL cap to have shit backups on the OL.

lcarus 02-10-2025 10:24 AM

Nagy can go for all I care. But in my view hes just an easy scapegoat. This is Andy Reids offense. He gets the credit when things go well. Feels kinda wrong to just blame Nagy when they go wrong.

crayzkirk 02-10-2025 10:26 AM

Everyone needs to look in the mirror instead of pointing fingers elsewhere.

Shields68 02-10-2025 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17962434)
Weve been putting off a mini reset and it looks like this super bowl is probably the band aid that gets ripped off. Unfortunately we don't have a Tyreek hill get get extra picks with this time.

Guessing there is no reason for a reset as long as Chris and/or Travis are playing at hall of fame levels.

To me a reset only really will be helpful if your blowing up the roster and need a season to get out of a few bad contracts. But it is not like we have anyone to move for picks. Not like we have a lot of bad deals.

MahomesMagic 02-10-2025 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17961808)
No.

We said this shit about his ability to draft receivers as recently as March 2023.

He just needs to keep trying. LT is an extraordinarily difficult position but eventually he’ll hit on one just like he has twice now at WR.

Kingsley was very raw coming out. He was a premier developmental project.


We knew he was not plug and play.

Dunerdr 02-10-2025 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17962548)
Guessing there is no reason for a reset as long as Chris and/or Travis are playing at hall of fame levels.

To me a reset only really will be helpful if your blowing up the roster and need a season to get out of a few bad contracts. But it is not like we have anyone to move for picks. Not like we have a lot of bad deals.

I said mini reset. Similar to the Tyreek trade. Resculpt the roster and its direction. And it would be hard to argue that Travis is still playing at an elite level.

Straight, No Chaser 02-10-2025 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17961748)
I do not think we can bring back Trey Smith with Creed’s contract on the books and the line showing it has more pressing needs at LT today.

I go back and forth about Nick Bolton.

Both need to come back if possible. Not sure if they can bring Reid back... he played his arse off this year.

Shoes 02-10-2025 10:51 AM

Entire offensive line needs to be looked at- I know Trey Smith is as good as gone but **** this play pisses me off:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My goodness, <a href="https://twitter.com/SmithNoland2?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SmithNoland2</a> <a href="https://t.co/SFVr6qYPrX">pic.twitter.com/SFVr6qYPrX</a></p>&mdash; Fran Duffy (@FDuffyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/FDuffyNFL/status/1888960621372154013?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Letting a 240 lb defensive end absolutely stuff you on a pulling block when you're supposed to be one of the nastiest guards in the NFL.

kccrow 02-10-2025 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17962465)
He's still drafting in the 20s. Usually late. The Eagles simply prioritize OL and DL over everything else. Its kept them competitive even when they shouldn't be.

Not really. 22 was the latest pick he had sans the 30 pick he used on Smith. He's had multiple 1st rounders to play with given trades.

I spoke to that here: https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...1&postcount=83

Having picks in the top 15 and even early 20's is a big advantage over picking at 31/32 most of the time.

I mean we only got a #29 trading Tyreek away and had to use more ammo to get to 21 where Howie has been repeatedly picking.

GordonGekko 02-10-2025 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17962494)
Nagy can go for all I care. But in my view hes just an easy scapegoat. This is Andy Reids offense. He gets the credit when things go well. Feels kinda wrong to just blame Nagy when they go wrong.

Why do they even have an OC then, is it NFL mandate they keep one? Supposedly EB brought accountability to the offense at a minimum and we should bring him back. Surely Nagy has some input into the calls with Reid, EB might have just been better at the limited OC role in KC.

Gravedigger 02-10-2025 11:16 AM

Out of the options I think the bolded ones are your priority, one of them can be tagged. I know there were reports that they want to bring back Hollywood, but I think you just need to fill with youngins when it comes to WR, and possibly secondary for Reid sadly, but my decisions are more about anchors, Bolton being an anchor in the middle of the D will be more beneficial than others imo. Plus Spags loves Bolton, I see a tag or a new contract for Bolton. With WRs I think you throw two draft picks at them in this draft and take your chances, fill with FA leftovers. Reid is the strongest FA imo that we have, the rest have their issues, but Trey Smith is a luxury/familiarity we can't afford.

Trey Smith
Nick Bolton
Justin Reid
Marquise Brown
DeAndre Hopkins
Charles Omenihu
Tershawn Wharton
Kareem Hunt
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Justin Watson
Mecole Hardman
D.J Humphries
Mike Pennel
Samaje Perine
Josh Uche
Derrick Nnadi
James Winchester
Carson Wentz

JPH83 02-10-2025 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17962588)
Not really. 22 was the latest pick he had sans the 30 pick he used on Smith. He's had multiple 1st rounders to play with given trades.

I spoke to that here: https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...1&postcount=83

Having picks in the top 15 and even early 20's is a big advantage over picking at 31/32 most of the time.

I mean we only got a #29 trading Tyreek away and had to use more ammo to get to 21 where Howie has been repeatedly picking.

I mean, kudos to Roseman for acquiring and stashing picks effectively to be honest. Also, it helps when you draft a stud LT in the 7th round.

JPH83 02-10-2025 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 17962570)
Entire offensive line needs to be looked at- I know Trey Smith is as good as gone but **** this play pisses me off:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My goodness, <a href="https://twitter.com/SmithNoland2?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SmithNoland2</a> <a href="https://t.co/SFVr6qYPrX">pic.twitter.com/SFVr6qYPrX</a></p>&mdash; Fran Duffy (@FDuffyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/FDuffyNFL/status/1888960621372154013?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Letting a 240 lb defensive end absolutely stuff you on a pulling block when you're supposed to be one of the nastiest guards in the NFL.

I remember lots of people didn't like Smith because they thought he was too light. Tried to tell them, he sure doesn't play that way.


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