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suzzer99 12-27-2024 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17878946)
No, that was all Carl Peterson.

Carl wasn't here for Blackledge and had no connection to it. His refusal to draft a QB in rounds 1 or 2 for over a decade handcuffed this team.

I will not have this Mike Elkins slander.

Red Dawg 12-27-2024 03:11 PM

Bad QBs. End of story.

BigRedChief 12-27-2024 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17879270)
Poor Leadership.

Sorry Mr. Hunt, but you and Jack Steadman were far more interested in your other business interests than the Kansas City Chiefs Football Franchise - and it started in the mid 70's (not the 80's), and lasted until they got a real football guy in place (Carl Peterson). It was a rudderless ship in those days, and I'm so glad that shit is in our distant rear view.

Steadman as a GM only because your buddies with Lamar. Lamar was a visionary man but, he had that blindspot for Steadman.

Frazod 12-27-2024 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 17879445)
He also won a national championship that year

Meanwhile, Marino had regressed his senior year, and got blown out twice by Blackledge in college (Pitt and Penn State were both great teams back then). He also had the drug rumors. Marino falling to the defending AFC Champ Dolphins shows how many teams didn’t believe in him

Interesting. I never realized why he went so low in the first round.

lcarus 12-27-2024 06:10 PM

It's funny. I was born in 1983 and was born and raised in KC but my interest in football and the Chiefs didn't start until right around the time we got Joe Montana. However I do recall having really good seats at a playoff game in like 1990 or 1991. It was so bitterly cold. I think we played against the Raiders.

I do really need to go back and watch some stuff on the 80s Chiefs just for historical reference.

Deberg_1990 12-27-2024 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17879649)
However I do recall having really good seats at a playoff game in like 1990 or 1991. It was so bitterly cold. I think we played against the Raiders.

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That was probably against Todd Marinovich

HemiEd 12-27-2024 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers (Post 17879201)
Marty Ball forever (it seemed). I did love that guy. RIP

10-6 forever and a wild card shot. ;)

HemiEd 12-27-2024 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17879217)
I left Missouri for good in 1984 when I went in the Navy. After that, and until the Montana days, it was nearly impossible for me to see a Chiefs game since they were almost never broadcast locally in Virginia or Illinois. And they certainly weren't broadcast when I was deployed.

Of course, I didn't miss much.

Yeah, I was fortunate during my hitch, 68-73, as they were on a lot. Willie Lanier was so fun to watch.

Pointer19 12-28-2024 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17879020)
Anyone under 30 has no idea what a shitshow things were and why us old timers took so long to finally shake off the stank of failure.

“Because Chiefs”

Mizzou_8541 12-28-2024 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17878946)
No, that was all Carl Peterson.

Carl wasn't here for Blackledge and had no connection to it. His refusal to draft a QB in rounds 1 or 2 for over a decade handcuffed this team.

Marty left KC and immediately drafted a franchise QB and put up 12 wins with a garbage franchise...

Who was that? Not disagreeing with you, just curious who he drafted?

mpeman 12-28-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17879634)
Interesting. I never realized why he went so low in the first round.

There's a great ESPN 30 for 30 that goes into detail on the draft. I think it was Marino's agent at the time who took highly detailed notes on the whole process leading up to and after the draft and the show creator was able to recreate a lot of what happened that caused Marino to fall so far, including the cocaine rumors.

brdempsey69 12-28-2024 10:03 AM

I cannot forget that 1985 draft and the Ethan Horton selection at #15 and how that didn't pan out and Horton was gone after the 1985 season. UGH!!

Looking at Horton's college stats, he was easily one of college football's best runners in his junior & senior seasons. If only he could have kept that going for KC, then who knows what might have been. But, such a thing never happened.

KC_Lee 12-28-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 17879899)
Who was that? Not disagreeing with you, just curious who he drafted?

Jim Scaaf, GM from 1976 to 1988.

Deberg_1990 12-28-2024 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 17879899)
Who was that? Not disagreeing with you, just curious who he drafted?

I’m assuming he means Drew Brees and Rivers a few years later?

But Marty didn’t draft a QB his one year with the Redskins. He brought in Jeff George.

kccrow 12-28-2024 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17879270)
Poor Leadership.

Sorry Mr. Hunt, but you and Jack Steadman were far more interested in your other business interests than the Kansas City Chiefs Football Franchise - and it started in the mid 70's (not the 80's), and lasted until they got a real football guy in place (Carl Peterson). It was a rudderless ship in those days, and I'm so glad that shit is in our distant rear view.

Why do we blame Steadman? Should we be blaming Schaaf?

Steadman was GM from '60 to '76. He became President in '76 and Schaff took over as GM until 1988.

Steadman helped Lamar establish the AFL and helped put the Chiefs in Missouri. Our initial prominence is in large thanks to Steadman.

Sure, the decline began in the mid-70s under Steadman once all of the greats started aging out but Schaaf never truly dug us out during his tenure.


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