No way, Goof is a bundle of sticks. LMAO

Jayden Daniels is my MVP at this time.

Personally, not a big fan of Goff. However;

Last three games his stats have been historically good. His PR over the last three is something like 153.2, and he leads the league in several other passing stats over that span. Now, two of those defenses weren't very good (SEA/DAL), but MIN has a very good defense and he diced them up.

This is a dumb thread.

It’s Josh Allen if you’re not gonna give it to the best QB in the league.

My thoughts:

- If the Chiefs get past the Bills to remain undefeated, and Pat rebounds to have a few 3 TD games, then I think he's in the mix.

- At the moment, there's not really a runaway candidate. It's a very weird NFL year so far with injuries and inconsistent play.

- If everything stayed the same and we are in week 16, I think Goff would have the momentum due to the Lions record and his accuracy stats.

- It's a QB award. There's not a defender that is blowing the world away statistically to change that this year. Same with WR or RB.

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In summary - if this team stays undefeated while the other teams (Lions, Ravens, Bills) take a few L's, and Pat starts connecting with Worthy on deep shots (he will), I think he'll work his way into the conversation in mid-November. The conversation will shift to "look what he's done despite all the adversity."

If we drop a couple games, and Pat's stats stay the same, there's no chance.

Thankfully, we proved last year that the regular season is our pre-season and we get disgusting in the playoffs. Our Rungame (Hunt, Pacheco, Steele) + Our Defense + even a Mid-level Patrick is almost insurmountable in January/February.

Are you sayin' Patrick Mahomes has played bad?

His stats this season are not that great. He will not be the NFL MVP. But still, in the fourth quarter of a playoff game, there is nobody better than Mahomes.

Chris Jones is my MVP. Wrecking havoc every time. Don't care how many sacks he has.

The only flaw Patrick has is that there's PTSD from the Tampa Bay Superbowl.

By that I mean, if our LT has a terrible game, Patrick gets nervous and starts feeling/reacting to pressure way more dramatically for a few games.

He has to work out of that slump.

For the future - we absolutely have to ****ing lock down our Oline, above all else.

Tom Brady 3 MVPs in the regular season probably looses sleep with regret

They have had constant change at Left Tackle since the beginning of 2021. The only time he had stability there was Year 2 with Orlando Brown, which led to a MVP regular season in 2022. For comparison, 99% of Josh Allen’s career has featured a pretty durable/healthy Dion Dawkins.

It would be nice if Wanya or Kingsley is able to become a long term option instead of the constant Band-Aid LT situation every year.

Wow, this says it all. Goff is playing so good that Pasta approves.

It's easy to see why you are a LeBronie. You get so infatuated w a player you refuse to look at things even close to objectively and think stats only matter when it serves your argument.

Let me help you figure things out. MVP isn't a career award, It's a season award. You just said a QB that currently has 6 TDs and 8 INTs should just be handed the MVP trophy every season.

Just stop..

I'm confident Mahomes will get things turned around and he is still doing OK overall. But MVP? There's no way he deserves that.

I'm saying he hasn't been great and any idiot can see he's missed several opportunities to hit Worthy for big plays.

I also have said it doesn't matter right now and that he will turn it around when it matters. It's ok for him to have a few regular seasons where he's not elite as long as they make the playoffs and he does what he needs to there.

However, I differ from a bunch of people with the "nothing else matters besides winning" stuff. I wanna win, but I also want our star players racking up the stats and winning regular season awards. We only get 17 regular season games and 3-4 post season games. I wanna see us dropping 35+ on teams and Mahomes having 300+ yds and 3 TDs.

Yeah we are winning but he'll most of those games over the last 1.5 seasons hasn't been fun to watch. Playoff games are fun, but I watch football to be entertained. This brand of football isn't very entertaining. At least not to me.