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RunKC 08-03-2023 11:31 AM
The top paid C (Jason Kelce) makes just north of $14 million APY. Creed should be the easiest one to sign. It's such an undervalued position in terms of pay.

I'd gladly play $14.5 million APY for Creed Humphrey and I'm sure Veach feels the same way

BWillie 08-03-2023 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17041416)
I'm going to be honest, walking on a 25 year old center to pay a 30 year old DT bank breaking money doesn't seem wise.
This team can operate just fine with an average center. Having the best center in the game on a passing offense that doesn't power run the ball is simply a luxury. Chris Jones is needed and the difference between him an an avg player of his position is much, much of a bigger deal.

We walked from Hudson - right decision.
We walked from Morse - also the right decision.

Marcellus 08-03-2023 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17041406)
His routes are cum worthy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Route work. <a href="https://twitter.com/_jross8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@_jross8</a> <a href="https://t.co/CS6NOCSCEH">pic.twitter.com/CS6NOCSCEH</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1687148870482927617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I love how at the end one of the coaches yells "Good! Now get up!".

Mecca 08-03-2023 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17041420)
When there was 40 seconds left in the AFC championship game and Bengals had the ball driving, on third down we needed a stop, who got that stop….. that’s right BIG DICK CHEIS JONES did!! He sent us to the Super Bowl basically. We need CJ more than ever
Yea and that right there is the issue, giving a huge contract to someone his age basically means you pay for what he has already done not what he is going to give you going forward.

BWillie 08-03-2023 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17041420)
When there was 40 seconds left in the AFC championship game and Bengals had the ball driving, on third down we needed a stop, who got that stop….. that’s right BIG DICK CHEIS JONES did!! He sent us to the Super Bowl basically. We need CJ more than ever
If we were not a great team, I wouldn't sign him. But our time is now. You need to do everything you can to take advantage of Kelce's window.

BWillie 08-03-2023 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17041434)
Yea and that right there is the issue, giving a huge contract to someone his age basically means you pay for what he has already done not what he is going to give you going forward.
Do you want to win the Super Bowl in the next two years or not win the Super Bowl in the next two years?

JohnnyHammersticks 08-03-2023 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17041381)
Sir that is a good thing and a testament of how good these WR's have looked in camp.

James, Rice and Ross look like DAWGS
I had an idea James would be good based on how he looked last season, but if I'd known Rice and Ross were going to look this good early I wouldn't have been banging the DHop drum nearly as loudly as I did.

crispystl 08-03-2023 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 17040881)
TV info?
Yeah....it's on GOOGLE IT!

RunKC 08-03-2023 11:38 AM
Damn. Outside of ST's and fullback, C's are getting paid less than any other position group on the field.

Yes RB's make more than C's at the top.

Mecca 08-03-2023 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17041438)
Do you want to win the Super Bowl in the next two years or not win the Super Bowl in the next two years?
Do you really think they can't win without him?

They aren't the worst defense in the league.

BWillie 08-03-2023 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17041445)
Damn. Outside of ST's and fullback, C's are getting paid less than any other position group on the field.

Yes RB's make more than C's at the top.
That's because they aren't as important in an ever increasing passing league. And they definitely aren't as important if you have a intelligent QB who is mobile. There is no reason the Chiefs should ever want to pay the best Center in the league. It's simply a waste of money when it can be allocated on resources else where that will better improve the team.

O.city 08-03-2023 11:41 AM
Do we think CJ falls off in the next 3 years?

BWillie 08-03-2023 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17041450)
Do you really think they can't win without him?

They aren't the worst defense in the league.
They can but Chris ****ing Jones is 10x more important than a ****ing center. And it's a HELLUVA alot easier with Chris Jones. We certainly don't have 2 super bowls without Chris Jones.

Mecca 08-03-2023 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17041452)
Do we think CJ falls off in the next 3 years?
Do I think a DT who is primarily a pass rusher will not be an elite player when he's 34..yea he probably won't be.

It also isn't the best sign that his 2 by far most productive years were contract years.

O.city 08-03-2023 11:44 AM
They could theoretically win without any player not named Pat Mahomes....but yeah take away Jones and Kelce and it's gonna get alot tougher.


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