I'm not upset at all. What would give you that impression?

I was going to start another thread, but what the hell since everyone is getting pissy about overreactions, I'll throw it in here instead - Karlaftis is disappointing.

Yes, it's too early to come to any conclusion, but after a really good preseason, I was kind of hoping he'd find his way to the QB a little more often. I know he had a nice TFL last night, but his pass rush has been on a Frank Clark level the last 3 weeks.

I know its only PFF and we like them when they give us good grades and are a complete crap organization with QB grades and bad grades, but they have him at a lowly 49.7.

Then you don't have any problem with me saying he needs to clean it up in the RZ and the end zone with the dropsies. Or do you?

I think it's pretty ****ing petty to single out MVS when there was clearly 1) worse drops by others and 2) nothing to bitch about in the first place. We blew out the #1 defense in the NFL.

He has a ton of pressures. The sacks will come. He's young and he's playing opposite a complete non-factor. He looks much better when Dunlap is on the field.

So you are upset?

ROFL

Not in the slightest.

Any way.

I agree there were other drops that didn't need to happen. There were throws that were off that didn't need to happen. Even in the winning games mistakes can be improved upon. But first you have to recognize them.

It's one thing to recognize them. It's another thing to think they're significant enough that they need to be highlighted the day after a big win.

I agree. His pass rush has been somewhat disappointing so far. Hopefully he can develop some moves. I’m not sure if he has the speed/explosiveness and bendability to consistently beat tackles around the edge.

That's exactly what the Chiefs coaching staff is doing today. Do you think they are in the back room still popping tops?

And yes, drops in the red zone and and end zone are significant. The drop in the end zone luckily was manageable. Whether it was slightly tipped on not, it hit in hands exactly where it was supposed to be. Judging by his reaction after the play, he wants that back. The drop at the 5 was significant because it stopped the drive with a FG instead of being 1st and goal at the 5.

He definitely needs to learn some technique. That bull rush that was successful in college won't be as successful with NFL lineman.

I'm going to give him a break as it's only 4 games in though. Not like he is a 4yr vet.

I must have missed the part where we are Chiefs coaches and we're at work today looking through things to improve.

I never said the drops weren't significant. Us pointing them out isn't significant. And when you single out MVS and don't say anything about anybody else, it looks petty.

You know what else stopped a couple of drives? Poor play from OBJ. Notice how the bitching about OBJ essentially stopped after last night? It's not because he played great. It's because people are usually more forgiving after a big win. Unless you have an axe to grind. Those people are easy to spot.

It’s pretty nice to have a game with 41 points against a good defense where it feels like the KC offense still did not reach full potential, whether it’s the dropped passes or Mahomes’ bad decision on the interception. Plenty of room for improvement.

So because we aren't coaches we can't discuss areas to improve?

Just stop with the "petty" nonsense. It isn't sticking.

I've discussed CEH and his drop. OBJ you have no argument from me there. I am wondering if he even is worth being tagged next year.