See ya Vager. I sure will miss seeing your non-stop business decisions and your whining about fans on Twatter.

Let's see here...

Signing later gets a lot of veterans out of OTAs, because they aren't signed... so yeah.. it does affect it, and teams are OK to work such out because its past th deadline.. Others work out deals to be signed later just so they don't have to attend these things, and that betrays the "spirit" of the rule.

And I typed it out because I simply posted a thought and somebody deemed it necessary to misconstrue it. I thought I'd clarify them for the board so others could follow the train of thought instead of thinking of it being a homer position.

I'm a fan of honesty in discussion, and that's something I do care about. I don't care what the NFL does in their comp pick policies.

I don't know why you all feel to attack me for posting such, though I should truly expect nothing less from this place as much as I enjoy it.

I genuinely hope that you have a fantastic day though, regardless of your abrasiveness to my post.

Edited: Forgot to Quote.

Thank you Mathieu! We obviously wouldn’t have had the success we had without you. Any real football fan can see that. I wish you well in your return back home. We’ll all be rooting for you to pull a Devin White and take Brady out this year to return the favor for that bush league bullshit they pulled last year.

I think Mathieu played through a couple of concussions last year. He got his bell rung and he just wasn't the same. Hence the late season business decisions.

Couldn't see making the same mistake we made with Eric Berry and pay a guy a monster contract at that age. I'm glad he got to go home and play in New Orleans. I have nothing but respect for Honey Badger, but I'm also looking forward to seeing how the new secondary comes together. I also think it's hilarious that HB has to play with Dirty Dan in New Orleans. I don't think they like each other very much.

It is quite entertaining that Matthieu will still be putting up with Sorenson. I wonder how much playing time Dan will actually get though... it would be funny to see the first moment that Matthieu throws up his hands from a Sorenson blown coverage.

May leave Kansas City, but you can't get away from Dirty Dan!

What are you talking about? The rule states that players signed after 4pm today don't count as it relates to compensatory picks.

So if HB signs with the Saints tomorrow, how does that have any impact on his availability for OTAs?

You're complaining about the idea that a team could softly agree to something in the last couple weeks and only sign the deal after the deadline and rightly stating that gets around the intent of the rule. I agree with you there.

But if Ingram doesn't want to go to OTAs and isn't signing until after, what is being violated/betrayed?

It's a player's prerogative where and when he signs.

Mahomes may have not liked him throwing up his hands Kermit style

Trash

Seems like all our cast off offensive players go to the Bears. Now all our cast off defensive players are going to the Saints.

I think the Bears win this one.

Pull an Elway, get an afternoon drunk going and send in the paperwork late like he did with Dumervil. LMAO

I couldn’t imagine life with Matheiu off the team mid-last season.

With all the new talent he would be holding this team back. Amazing how that works.

I'm saying that if a team arranges a contract before the deadline, then they should sign before the deadline. If they want to exempt them from activities, put that in the contract. Don't just sit on it so you can avoid awarding comp picks.

I personally feel a lot of teams have arrangements already worked out where they will sign players much later, to avoid workouts, OTAs, etc, and they probably agree beforehand, and for them they do it because it allows them to skirt the deadline.

Sitting on an already agreed contract to skirt deadlines is in the rules, but unethical.

I should clear something up in my terminology, in terms of OTAs, I'm not only referring to official OTAs, but everything else that comes with onboarding a new player. Getting the playbook, meeting with other players, coaches, etc. I should have defined that better initially, and that's my bad, I could have prevented a lot of disclarity with my poor choice of terminology. I should have used the term onboarding and workouts.

If players are getting playbooks before they sign (i.e. Gronk in TB admitted he did and countless more are yearly most likely) That's against the rules, and shows there are pre-arranged deals to skirt rules instead of just making items optional in the contract.

I guess the main summary of my point is that it gives an additional avenue in which players and teams agree to do such because they get to skirt past a deadline and gather an additional pick, or if you're a player you can work the deal to avoid some OTA stuff, but theoretically you shouldn't have the playbook until signed (which is probably completely ignored)

And I'm not saying every contract post draft is like this obviously, and it's probably a small minority of contracts rewarded, it's just another avenue that due to an arbitrary deadline can and most certainly is abused. Just that instead of attempting to put these items on paper, they have before given out playbooks and sat on contracts for a substantial period of time.

It should be player prerogative, just put it in the contract instead of making it a backroom dealing. Sorry, that was long. I just felt that I should clarify my thoughts.

Well bye....

Wonder if he learned to not make business decisions and attack the fan base.

So if we miss the deadline for the compensatory pick this year, does that mean we just don't get a pick at all? Or do we get a 2024 pick?