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Chris Meck 04-01-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15611149)
I have some agreement and mild disagreements with this post, but the DE paragraph is just... not a great look.

You don't solve the DE problem with a DT. I am of the belief you need 8 passrushers and Reed, by my count, gets us to 5.

And I'm not remotely optimistic about bopping Chris Jones out to DE. And I'm not sure why you are. Taking on tackles negates most of Jones' strengths, and he's shown us in 2020 that he has absolutely no idea how to play the run at DE.

yeah man, I tell you what-if you think we need 8 stud pass rushers you're right, this is a disaster. Just like 31 other teams, because NOBODY has 8 stud pass rushers. Nobody. Nada. You want to talk about a bad look? That's just silly.

Louis Riddick has indicated that The Chiefs intend to be able to utilize Jones outside some. I don't think that means he's your starting DE. Spags likes to move guys around and show different looks. Don't get it twisted.

Danna gave us some quality snaps as a rookie. Charlton gave us some flashes before injury. Do we need to get better? Well yeah. It's APRIL 1ST. What big FA DE signing have we missed out on? Did we not draft one? Oh that's right, the draft is in what, 3 weeks?

The way I see it is this: We've taken 3 swings on difference makers in free agency. We got two of 'em. What the hell do you want?

Direckshun 04-01-2021 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15611164)
Give me a team that has 8 legitimate pass rushers.

Well, let's start at the ground floor.

Name me 8 players on this team that can rush the passer at all.

Clark
Jones
Reed
Taco
Wharton
Danna

I think including Danna in that list is generous at this point in his career, but I set the bar low here.

staylor26 04-01-2021 08:54 AM

“You need 8 pass rushers”

LMAO ROFL :facepalm:

What a ****ing moron.

The offseason is a disaster because the Chiefs still only have 2 top 5 receivers, only 5 pass rushers, and they cut Fisher and went after Williams!

Chris Meck 04-01-2021 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15611177)
I'd agree with him on the DE thing just in that I would like to have another rushing DE so we could play Reed and Jones together in the middle.

Of course. That's nothing anyone in their right minds would disagree with.

I think we're one plus player at DE away from an absolutely dominant front four.

Chris Meck 04-01-2021 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15611185)
Well, let's start at the ground floor.

Name me 8 players on this team that can rush the passer at all.

Clark
Jones
Reed
Taco
Wharton
Danna

I think including Danna in that list is generous at this point in his career, but I set the bar low here.

Cool, now do the Bucs.

O.city 04-01-2021 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15611190)
Of course. That's nothing anyone in their right minds would disagree with.

I think we're one plus player at DE away from an absolutely dominant front four.

I like having a few DE's but those Giants teams that Spags really rolled with had so many dudes up there that were just versatile that could move around.

I like that.

Direckshun 04-01-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15611181)
yeah man, I tell you what-if you think we need 8 stud pass rushers you're right, this is a disaster. Just like 31 other teams, because NOBODY has 8 stud pass rushers. Nobody. Nada. You want to talk about a bad look? That's just silly.

Louis Riddick has indicated that The Chiefs intend to be able to utilize Jones outside some. I don't think that means he's your starting DE. Spags likes to move guys around and show different looks. Don't get it twisted.

Danna gave us some quality snaps as a rookie. Charlton gave us some flashes before injury. Do we need to get better? Well yeah. It's APRIL 1ST. What big FA DE signing have we missed out on? Did we not draft one? Oh that's right, the draft is in what, 3 weeks?

The way I see it is this: We've taken 3 swings on difference makers in free agency. We got two of 'em. What the hell do you want?

I want our three biggest needs filled.

I'm telling you, Jones was as lost as you can be playing end. His passrush advantages are largely negated against tackles, and he has absolutely no idea how to play the run on the edge. I'm a huge Jones fan but he's just a dude you unleash at the 1 tech and let him ruin things. He makes no sense at edge.

But it may seriously be our best option at this point, somehow. Because unless the team finds capspace for a stopgap LT, we're going to have to commit our 1st round pick, and maybe additional picks in a trade-up, for a rookie LT. Which means you're hunting for a starting DE, at best, in the 2nd round. And this draft, as you probably know, has almost zero DEs ready to start. They're all developmental guys this year, outside of Paye and Phillips.

Anyway, Danna looks like a solid rotational piece and of course I'm a Taco fan.

The Franchise 04-01-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15611185)
Well, let's start at the ground floor.

Name me 8 players on this team that can rush the passer at all.

Clark
Jones
Reed
Taco
Wharton
Danna

I think including Danna in that list is generous at this point in his career, but I set the bar low here.

No, let’s start with your statement of “we need 8 pass rushers”. Find me a team in the league that meets your requirements.

Chris Meck 04-01-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15611198)
I want our three biggest needs filled.

I'm telling you, Jones was as lost as you can be playing end. His passrush advantages are largely negated against tackles, and he has absolutely no idea how to play the run on the edge. I'm a huge Jones fan but he's just a dude you unleash at the 1 tech and let him ruin things. He makes no sense at edge.

But it may seriously be our best option at this point, somehow. Because unless the team finds capspace for a stopgap LT, we're going to have to commit our 1st round pick, and maybe additional picks in a trade-up, for a rookie LT. Which means you're hunting for a starting DE, at best, in the 2nd round. And this draft, as you probably know, has almost zero DEs ready to start. They're all developmental guys this year, outside of Paye and Phillips.

Anyway, Danna looks like a solid rotational piece and of course I'm a Taco fan.

IT'S APRIL ****ING FIRST DUDE.

Fish 04-01-2021 09:00 AM

Meh.

staylor26 04-01-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15611201)
No, let’s start with your statement of “we need 8 pass rushers”. Find me a team in the league that meets your requirements.

He can’t, which is why he dodged the question.

Chris Meck 04-01-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15611201)
No, let’s start with your statement of “we need 8 pass rushers”. Find me a team in the league that meets your requirements.

I guess he didn't want to do the Bucs.

How about the #1 defense in football? Do the Rams. Show me their 8.

RunKC 04-01-2021 09:02 AM

Yeah I’m not content with Jones at DE. And I don’t think Veach is either or he wouldn’t have brought in Ingram.

We’re going to draft a DE early. Spags always wants a loaded stable on the DL

Chris Meck 04-01-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15611206)
Yeah I’m not content with Jones at DE. And I don’t think Veach is either or he wouldn’t have brought in Ingram.

We’re going to draft a DE early. Spags always wants a loaded stable on the DL

NOBODY IS CONTENT. IT'S ****ING APRIL 1ST.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2021 09:06 AM

EIGHT pass rushers and more than TWO TOP FIVE RECEIVERS Jesus ****, is your entire football evaluation based of a Madden '12 chise?

Not even I would bitch about that...


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