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SAUTO 03-12-2017 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12780543)
So glad I have that clown Tiger on ignore. What an assclown

Way to contribute to the thread.

splatbass 03-12-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 12780157)
Maybe it would cost a lot. But if you wind up with the franchise QB, it could be cheap. We have 11 picks. You could move 5 of them and still have 6. Our 1st, 2nd, one 3rd, 4th, and one 5th puts us close on points.



Still leaves #10, a 3rd, a 5th, 2 6ths, and a 7th. Dorsey has done some good work with late picks.



No one is giving up 5 picks to get any of these QBs, certainly not Dorsey. Unless someone hires Ditka as GM.....


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gblowfish 03-12-2017 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12780351)
Dumbass, simpleton, ChiefPlanet train of thought. The Cubs will never win a World Series either, right?

Well...as far as the Cubs go, it did take a really really ****ING REALLY long time for them to win one.

Coogs 03-12-2017 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12780567)
No one is giving up 5 picks to get any of these QBs, certainly not Dorsey. Unless someone hires Ditka as GM.....


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There are probably other ways, but they would require picks next year. We would still have 6 this way. I'm good however they do it if we go there.

I just don't think the good QB's get by pick 13.

Again, I'm just kind of thinking out loud on a slow Sunday.

splatbass 03-12-2017 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 12780584)
There are probably other ways, but they would require picks next year. We would still have 6 this way. I'm good however they do it if we go there.

I just don't think the good QB's get by pick 13.

Again, I'm just kind of thinking out loud on a slow Sunday.

I understand, but these guys are all projects. Spending 5 picks to get a project is just not going to happen.

Tribal Warfare 03-12-2017 10:57 PM

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/9Rb..._9857780.0.jpg

If Clark thinks Mahomes is the real deal Dorsey will do everything in his power to select him

Lex Luthor 03-12-2017 11:05 PM

Isn't next years QB class supposed to a lot better than this year's?

If that's the case, wouldn't we want a bunch of other teams to draft QBs in the first round this year instead of next year?

LoneWolf 03-13-2017 12:08 AM

There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

splatbass 03-13-2017 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12780778)
There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

I agree with this. CP always overvalues QBs in the draft. Hell, this place nearly melted down when we didn't take Geno Smith at 1.1.

Nickhead 03-13-2017 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12780778)
There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

i agree. i have made the argument that if the chiefs 'love' someone maybe move up a little. otherwise, and i have not a clue what next years draft class will be qb wise, they may wait.

i still think they take a 'potential' round one'r, in round two, but no later. :D

Sandy Vagina 03-13-2017 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12780780)
I agree with this. CP always overvalues QBs in the draft. Hell, this place nearly melted down when we didn't take Geno Smith at 1.1.

LOL

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12780073)
I think the Chiefs will stay put in the first round and not draft a quarterback till second day. Then say they got their guy they wanted.

This is far more likely. None of these "top" QBs are worth moving up for. If one of these 4 falls to 27, and they like him enough to develop? fine. More likely, 3 of the 4 QBs are selected before 27... and CP melts down over the 4th one being passed over.

I think Andy's wacking it for a guy like Peterman on day 2.

Coogs 03-13-2017 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12780778)
There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

Again, I was just looking over the draft board and pondering what has happened/rumored to happen in free agency. Top flight, ready to start day one, QB talent goes 1-10 in the draft. I don't see that either with these guys. But they do talk 3 of these guys could be really good given a year or two to sit... like Favre and Rodgers did. Saints, Browns/Pats, and Cards have very near future needs at that position. I'm not saying they will go QB, but I won't be shocked either to see some combination of Trubiski, Watson, and Mahomes go right ther in those 3 picks.

They get by there, good chance outside of Washington at 17 they fall to us. I just don't think they get by there.

Easy 6 03-13-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12780778)
There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

I agree with every word of this

Pasta Little Brioni 03-13-2017 10:16 AM

Mahomes to KC...get used to it

RunKC 03-13-2017 10:22 AM

I have a weird feeling if we draft a QB round 1 it will be Davis Webb, but honestly Mahommes and Webb are similar players. Spread offense, rocket arm, etc so I think most would be good with either.


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