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O.city 11-16-2014 09:56 PM

Direkshun, is Jalen Collins draft elgible?

DaneMcCloud 11-16-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11119779)
He is pretty versatile, but he was also an udfa plucked from another team. If someone wants to pay him that much, I trust Dorsey can find another player.

I'm also not sure that Parker isn't better at safety anyway

Parker will cost less than Berry and there was no discernible drop off while Berry was injured.

At this point in time, I can see Dorsey retaining Parker and cutting Berry.

O.city 11-16-2014 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11119789)
Parker will cost less than Berry and there was no discernible drop off while Berry was injured.

At this point in time, I can see Dorsey retaining Parker and cutting Berry.

When you look at how everyone else has progressed in their second year of he same scheme, it's not hard to think Berry has or would have as well if not for injury.

In his two games back, he's making plays in the pass game, which is what we all wanted.

With the way they ask the safeties to be versatile and not have a distinction in free vs strong, I can see them keeping both at a high priority.

DaneMcCloud 11-16-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11119814)
When you look at how everyone else has progressed in their second year of he same scheme, it's not hard to think Berry has or would have as well if not for injury.

In his two games back, he's making plays in the pass game, which is what we all wanted.

With the way they ask the safeties to be versatile and not have a distinction in free vs strong, I can see them keeping both at a high priority.

His salary is too prohibitive to pay him $8 million + when a guy earning league minimum has performed equally as well.

O.city 11-16-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11119824)
His salary is too prohibitive to pay him $8 million + when a guy earning league minimum has performed equally as well.

Eh, we don't see eye to eye on it so there's no point arguing,

DaneMcCloud 11-16-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11119834)
Eh, we don't see eye to eye on it so there's no point arguing,

Then just explain to me why Eric Berry's play justifies an $11 million dollar salary this year.

What does he offer that's so special that it can't be replicated by a player earning one tenth what he's earning?

Because quite frankly, I can't see it.

O.city 11-16-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11119859)
Then just explain to me why Eric Berry's play justifies an $11 million dollar salary this year.

What does he offer that's so special that it can't be replicated by a player earning one tenth what he's earning?

Because quite frankly, I can't see it.

He was hurt early in training camp then again in game 2. This year, no he hasn't.

But he's coming off an all pro season, and like i said, as much as everyone else has improved in year two in th scheme, it's not hard to imagine Berry would have been that much better had he stayed healthy.

Also, they're using him differently this year than they did last year (according to sorter, who I won't argue with) more so allowing him to make plays in the passing game, which since returning from injury he has been.

RunKC 11-16-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11119789)
Parker will cost less than Berry and there was no discernible drop off while Berry was injured.

At this point in time, I can see Dorsey retaining Parker and cutting Berry.

And who is gonna replace him? Abdullah who is turning 30 next year and on his last year of his contract?

DaneMcCloud 11-16-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11119956)
And who is gonna replace him? Abdullah who is turning 30 next year and on his last year of his contract?

Abdullah will be a "young" 30, as he was out of football for a while. There is no reason to believe he will suddenly hit the wall. The Chiefs still have Commings and will likely draft and sign guys that will replace him down the road.

But Abdullah isn't the issue at hand, so I'm not sure why you're even including him in this conversation.

O.city 11-16-2014 10:58 PM

I think Berry played to his contract last year. Hop3fully, not that he's healthy, he plays as well or better than he was playing last year.

RunKC 11-16-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11119968)
Abdullah will be a "young" 30, as he was out of football for a while. There is no reason to believe he will suddenly hit the wall. The Chiefs still have Commings and will likely draft and sign guys that will replace him down the road.

But Abdullah isn't the issue at hand, so I'm not sure why you're even including him in this conversation.

Commings is finished. He can't stay on the field ever. He never even made it on the field in the first place.

We would need to draft one

OldSchool 11-16-2014 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11119786)
Direkshun, is Jalen Collins draft elgible?

Yes. But I'd rather have Mills.

RunKC 11-16-2014 11:27 PM

Kurtis Drummond would be a safety I'd look at.

DaneMcCloud 11-16-2014 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11120010)
Commings is finished. He can't stay on the field ever. He never even made it on the field in the first place.

We would need to draft one

Commings may not have an NFL body but the NFL has been littered with guys that were unable to play their first or second season that later became good, if not great, NFL players.

Case in point today: Tony Moeaki scored his first TD since 2012 against the Chiefs.

Is there anyone in this forum that wouldn't want him on this roster opposite Kelce right now?

Direckshun 11-17-2014 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11119786)
Direkshun, is Jalen Collins draft elgible?

Yes. He's a hell of a corner, too. Unknown if he will declare.


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