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Bewbies 02-21-2014 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10445948)
No.

We have Bray.

LMAO

I don't even think Tyler Bray's mom would take him over Manziel.

Mav 02-21-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 10445999)
LMAO

I don't even think Tyler Bray's mom would take him over Manziel.

Why not? Manziel is everything that Andy Reid doesn't want in a qb. Hes not safe with the ball, or his body, hes an arrogant prick. He could just bring back Michael Vick if he wanted that.

Now, to the topic at hand. Manziel is going no lower than 8th to the Vikings, although my bet is he goes to Oakland at 5.

Unfortunately, for Browns, and Chiefs fans, with the added weight that Teddy put on, he is almost a lock in my opinion to go to the Texans. He is going to be everything that the Texans want.

And, where the Chiefs fit in. Teddy Bridgewater is the exact example of what Andy Reid wants in a qb, he just happened to come out one year too late.

The Chiefs need play makers. They are fine at qb.

Saccopoo 02-21-2014 09:34 PM

While Bridgewater is almost a lock to go to the Texans, Jadeveon Clowney is a 100% lock to go to the Texans.

No way in hell that they pass up Clowney.

None.

Clowney is going to destroy the Combine and the Texan fans will be absolutely rabid for a Watt/Clowney bookend pass rush.

You pass on Clowney for Bridgewater and you better start looking over your shoulder for an angry mob carrying buckets of tar, bags of feathers and a very big rail.

No GM, and I mean no GM is going to pass up Clowney for a guy who may or may not even beat out your second string QB.

O.city 02-21-2014 09:41 PM

Apparently, if the draft were today, they'd take Bortles (te Texans).

OldSchool 02-21-2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10446146)
While Bridgewater is almost a lock to go to the Texans, Jadeveon Clowney is a 100% lock to go to the Texans.

No way in hell that they pass up Clowney.

None.

Clowney is going to destroy the Combine and the Texan fans will be absolutely rabid for a Watt/Clowney bookend pass rush.

You pass on Clowney for Bridgewater and you better start looking over your shoulder for an angry mob carrying buckets of tar, bags of feathers and a very big rail.

No GM, and I mean no GM is going to pass up Clowney for a guy who may or may not even beat out your second string QB.

If I were their GM, I would take Clowney as well. But the problem is, are you prepared to sink that much money into those two players? If Clowney pans out, judging from deals for truly elite pass rushers/defenders in recent history, are you prepared to pay two DE's 100 mil each for their next pay checks? I would do it, but that would mean having to hit on almost every draft pick in order to make up for the fact that you wouldn't be able to pay a lot of your other good-great players.

They would make it a lot easier on your defensive coordinator though.

Saccopoo 02-21-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10446158)
If I were their GM, I would take Clowney as well. But the problem is, are you prepared to sink that much money into those two players? If Clowney pans out, judging from deals for truly elite pass rushers/defenders in recent history, are you prepared to pay two DE's 100 mil each for their next pay checks? I would do it, but that would mean having to hit on almost every draft pick in order to make up for the fact that you wouldn't be able to pay a lot of your other good-great players.

They would make it a lot easier on your defensive coordinator though.

It would make it easier on both Clowney, who was basically triple teamed the entire 2013 season, and Watt, who gets double teamed nearly every snap.

They'd murder fools.

And no GM is going to base their legacy on being the guy who passed on Clowney.

Unless the Texans get offered an absolute metric shit ton of picks, there is no way they are not picking Jadeveon.

Bewbies 02-21-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10446106)
Why not? Manziel is everything that Andy Reid doesn't want in a qb. Hes not safe with the ball, or his body, hes an arrogant prick. He could just bring back Michael Vick if he wanted that.

You're unfamiliar with Bray?

TambaBerry 02-21-2014 10:17 PM

I would laugh my ass off if they pick Clowney number one.

htismaqe 02-22-2014 08:44 AM

Does Clowney get them a Super Bowl? Because that's the surest way to fill the stadium.

The 2nd surest way is to draft Manziel.

If Texans ownership wants to fill the stadium, they'll take Manziel and take their chances with what happens on the field.

milkman 02-22-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10445478)
If he truly wanted to be the #1 pick he would compete and throw with all the other QB's. This is a huge red flag. Probably figures it would drop him out of the first round??

Halfwit being Halfwit.

Dave Lane 02-22-2014 10:55 AM

If Manziel is available at 23 and we take a guard I think that will be it for me. Got enough other stuff to work on.

Dave Lane 02-22-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10446601)
Halfwit being Halfwit.

World population of halfwits is pissed about that statement.

nbarone007 02-22-2014 11:01 AM

The Chiefs have the starting QB position locked up for at least the next 5-7 years. Alex Smith is a top 10 guy and franchise QB.

Chief Roundup 02-22-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10446646)
If Manziel is available at 23 and we take a guard I think that will be it for me. Got enough other stuff to work on.

If Manziel makes it past the Cardinals at 20 I would think Manziel would be a good reason for someone to want to trade up from the top of the 2cd. I just can't see him getting passed on by all those teams at the top of the 1st that need a QB but if he did I would think they would be willing to spend a couple of picks to try and get him. One of those teams might even be the Browns.

Tribal Warfare 02-22-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nbarone007 (Post 10446658)
The Chiefs have the starting QB position locked up for at least the next 5-7 years. Alex Smith is a top 10 guy and franchise QB.

LMAO


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